Superman (July 11th, 2025)

[Dave_W]

I'll believe a man can smile.

 

[ironwez20]

Trailer drops Thursday. Hoping for the best.

 

[Gipetto0812]

Excited to see where this goes. Feels nice to get a whiff of hopefulness looking at a Superman poster.

In the social media "poster" they have the theme lightly playing in the background. I like what I'm hearing. Sounds a bit like a blend of Hans and Williams. I'm glad that they didn't come out the gate using the Williams theme.

 

[davejames]

If we can just get some thrilling rescues and flying sequences again I'll be happy, and will be willing to forgive whatever other silliness Gunn has planned for this.

And enough with hitting us over the head with the messianic Jesus comparisons. We get it already. Lol

 

[abake]

Poster reminds me of the WW84 posters. Those were pretty cool. Too bad the movie didn't deliver.
The music sounded interesting until it sounded like Williams' theme.

I have a feeling this thread will meltdown when the trailer drops.

 

[jodl73]

Can't deny poster looks beautiful and theme lowkey sounds as Man of Steel theme in the beginning lol Williams theme got Zimmer treatment? As I'm younger I don't really have nostalgic feelings about that theme so Idk why everyone is obsessed. MOS OST is a peak and nobody can change my mind.

It's not so much nostalgia. The Williams theme is the original. The song has character and easily recognizable. As soon as it starts playing everyone knows whose theme it is. Not as much so as the Man of Steel theme. The Williams theme is used in other media, it gets a lot of playing time. You can try and remake other themes like Star Wars, Jurassic Park, Indiana Jones, Ghostbusters, Jaws, Batman from 1989, Predator, Terminator etc., but the originals are always familiar and will be attached to those franchises.

Poster reminds me of the WW84 posters. Those were pretty cool. Too bad the movie didn't deliver.
The music sounded interesting until it sounded like Williams' theme.

I have a feeling this thread will meltdown when the trailer drops.

Actually the poster was made as a call back to the original 1978 movie poster with the different color effects and Superman looking up. The song sounding like original is the best part. James Gunn even referenced Reeve frequently when talking about the movie. In fact the trailer release coincides with the release date of the Superman movie in 1978. Well the day after since he wants it closer to the holidays.

 

[Wor-Gar]

I'll believe a man can smile.

I will believe a man can cry.

As Jye did... when he saw Superman Returns.

I still can't get that out of my mind.

 

[jye4ever]

I will believe a man can cry.

As Jye did... when he saw Superman Returns.

I still can't get that out of my mind.

Yeah that was…..

Wait WHAT lol

 

[Wor-Gar]

Your avatar is your answer, Jye.

 

[jye4ever]

It's not so much nostalgia. The Williams theme is the original. The song has character and easily recognizable. As soon as it starts playing everyone knows whose theme it is. Not as much so as the Man of Steel theme. The Williams theme is used in other media, it gets a lot of playing time. You can try and remake other themes like Star Wars, Jurassic Park, Indiana Jones, Ghostbusters, Jaws, Batman from 1989, Predator, Terminator etc., but the originals are always familiar and will be attached to those franchises.


Actually the poster was made as a call back to the original 1978 movie poster with the different color effects and Superman looking up. The song sounding like original is the best part. James Gunn even referenced Reeve frequently when talking about the movie. In fact the trailer release coincides with the release date of the Superman movie in 1978. Well the day after since he wants it closer to the holidays.

Great post.

 

[xb24]

I'm really excited. I'm hoping it's as funny as The Peacemaker and has some of James Gunn's favorite punk rock tunes.

 

[Dave_W]

Hmmm. The shield outline is red in that poster, not yellow. Design change or photoshop mishap?

 

[abake]

It's not so much nostalgia. The Williams theme is the original. The song has character and easily recognizable. As soon as it starts playing everyone knows whose theme it is. Not as much so as the Man of Steel theme. The Williams theme is used in other media, it gets a lot of playing time. You can try and remake other themes like Star Wars, Jurassic Park, Indiana Jones, Ghostbusters, Jaws, Batman from 1989, Predator, Terminator etc., but the originals are always familiar and will be attached to those franchises.


Actually the poster was made as a call back to the original 1978 movie poster with the different color effects and Superman looking up. The song sounding like original is the best part. James Gunn even referenced Reeve frequently when talking about the movie. In fact the trailer release coincides with the release date of the Superman movie in 1978. Well the day after since he wants it closer to the holidays.

About Williams' Superman theme being iconic; of course, like all the others you have mentioned they are instantly recognisable by a lot of people. However, we're talking about a couple of potential movie-going audiences that don't recognise Beatles songs, so it's not a given that because something is well-known and immediately recognisable for a 35+ audience, it'll be the same for the twenty-somethings and under, who this movie should really cater to. Perhaps I'm wrong, but it's something to keep in mind.

Also, I would point out that "Duel of the Fates" is probably just as recognisable as the original SW theme, which shows that you can (and probably should) work on creating new material that is as powerful as the old hits. I'm also not saying that they should've used the MoS theme, they should come up with their own iconic theme for this new Superman, give this new iteration its own personality and character.

So far, the inclusion of the Williams theme sounds like nostalgia pandering to me. But who knows, maybe it's just a small bit in an otherwise awesome score, so let's just wait to see and hear more.

 

[Dave_W]

This is a tricky one for me. It's the same character, so in all of the different iterations, the suit carries over and retains all of the recognisable elements, they've just had different interpretations. So why can't the music be the same? Same tune, different arrangement. If that's the characters look, why can't the character have a 'sound'?

 

[ZE_501]

This is a tricky one for me. It's the same character, so in all of the different iterations, the suit carries over and retains all of the recognisable elements, they've just had different interpretations. So why can't the music be the same? Same tune, different arrangement. If that's the characters look, why can't the character have a 'sound'?

Like the James Bond theme? I'll buy that.

 

[Dave_W]

Like the James Bond theme? I'll buy that.

Exactly! Perfect example. I was thinking a younger, recast Indy movie, could you really not have that theme tune in an Indy film?

 

[T8OO]

About Williams' Superman theme being iconic; of course, like all the others you have mentioned they are instantly recognisable by a lot of people. However, we're talking about a couple of potential movie-going audiences that don't recognise Beatles songs, so it's not a given that because something is well-known and immediately recognisable for a 35+ audience, it'll be the same for the twenty-somethings and under, who this movie should really cater to. Perhaps I'm wrong, but it's something to keep in mind.

Also, I would point out that "Duel of the Fates" is probably just as recognisable as the original SW theme, which shows that you can (and probably should) work on creating new material that is as powerful as the old hits. I'm also not saying that they should've used the MoS theme, they should come up with their own iconic theme for this new Superman, give this new iteration its own personality and character.

So far, the inclusion of the Williams theme sounds like nostalgia pandering to me. But who knows, maybe it's just a small bit in an otherwise awesome score, so let's just wait to see and hear more.

Exactly! I love the Williams theme, it's burnt into my soul but we should have learnt from Nolan's trilogy, Snyder's trilogy and even The Batman that new scores can be created for different versions of the character and they can be amazing.
Can you imagine The Dark Knight with Elfman's score? Or hell, Batman 1989 with the 66 theme.