Tamashii Soul of Chogokin C-3PO & R2-D2

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Of all the figures I own, the Tamashii C-3PO is by far the nicest quality AND the most stable (least likely to fall over). I couldn't care about how heavy it is. It just LOOKS incredible when on display and that's what I pay for.
I look forward to the Hot Toys die cast Robocop figure.

... Here we go again. Incomming wall of text. :lol
Spoiler tags for those who have read this before, and don't care to see it again.

Lets go little by little, and go into more detail, starting with the highlited part.

No, they were plastic and fiberglass. UNLESS you mean within the universe of the film, in which case they are alien materis, some metal-like, some plastic-like.

these are toys. They don't need to be heavy. The "Weight = value" thing that some people have ( I get that you're in that grouping, and I PROMISE I mean no offense by what I'm about to say) Is dumb. it's something, however, that is somewhat widespread. Some People associate a lack of weight or heft with cheapness and Poor quality. This is amusing, as the opposite is usualy true.

Die-cast itself is a specific material Known as "Zamac". Zamac is a Cheap alloy composed of mostly Tin, with some added copper and nickle, and in some cases Lead for added strength and weight. In the world of metalurgy, Zamac is considered a "garbage metal" becuase it's cheap to produce, and generaly low quality. In jewlry making, it's known as "white metal" and is frequently used to train people to make jewlry as it is extremely inexpensive. Modern Zamac has less impurities, and is less prone to " zinc crumble" than older stuff. this is when it starts to break down and become VERY brittle. While rare, it CAN still happen.

IT also holds paint BETTER than older zamac, but it is still prone to paint chipping in areas that are handeled frequently.

I WILL say that while Die-cast as a material is cheaper than plastic, and costs less to produce, the initial set up of getting the equipment is MORE expensive. This is usualy where people argue that Diecast is more costly.

Diecast if used improperly on an action figure can lead to balance issues. Generaly it's best to limit diecast to lower legs and feet to INCRESE stability, by lowering the center of gravity/balance point through the increased weight. Other than that, Diecast can be used to create very small pieces that are sturdier than plastic parts of a similar size ( 3P0's arm pistons, for example)

Corporate entities are aware of the " Weight = value" mentality, ad will frequently use diecast in collectables as an excuse to drive up the price.

Which means that the piece then becomes OVERPRICED for what it is.
Which means they're borderline taking advantage of you.

yours Hasn't Fallen over? that's great. For me, I have Pets, and children who run around the house and frequently crash into things. This means that anything that is even MILDLY unsturdy is going to topple in the event of a collision. That's not a chance i'm going to take.


Alternatively, I've never had an issue with my sideshow Troopers, clones or stormies, nor my Vader. I've had ANH han take a tumble, along with HOt toys spidey, and Thor, and some of my joes.

Mixed media is discussed above. Though, I will say that I would PREFER an all plastic 3P0. Sideshow or HT will eventualy deliver on this, and i'm fine with waiting. I've got some serious bills to pay off ATM, and I'll be taking a LONG break from collecting once my standing pre-orders are filled :D
 
Of all the figures I own, the Tamashii C-3PO is by far the nicest quality AND the most stable (least likely to fall over). I couldn't care about how heavy it is. It just LOOKS incredible when on display and that's what I pay for.
I look forward to the Hot Toys die cast Robocop figure.

I'll grant you that. He IS impressive. if I could get him for 250$ or so shipped, I might consider it more :D
 
I still don't think you are understanding my issue with your statement. And I don't take offense to your comments, please don't take any from mine.

You said that there was an over use of diecast, which suggests a mixed media design would be better. Again, I understand your personal preference for plastic, but that doesn't make a good argument for a mixed media "improvement".

I just don't agree that a mixed media design would improve it. It might be your personal preference and you did say it was your preference...so I guess that's that, but I would wager a vast majority of folks would prefer all plastic or all diecast. I doubt most would prefer mixed media. And I get the balance argument, but that's an odd request which wouldn't provide any sort of guarantee from falling or meaningful improvement for balance.

I'm not interested in a debate between which media is better, plastic or diecast. I like both for different reasons, and if they did come out with a better plastic version someday I wouldn't be against buying it because it was plastic, but only if it was ****ty and not accurate. :)

I used the word "feel" to explain the perceived value of weight because that's an opinion. So I don't think your data against diecast takes away from that feeling in any way. People didn't drive out to the desert to present the Medicom C3PO. LOL.

Picking up this thing is just awesome. And for the non-collectors who come into my home I think they see it as more impressive figure because it is metal.

It's C3PO....and it's metal, and it's awesome. Being all diecast doesn't kill it in anyway, in my opinion.
 
I love that it's diecast. It is the most robust figure I own. Its joints won't snap unexpectedly when I repose it in three years. If it falls over (highly unlikely in my case) the worst that will happen will be that it gets mildly scuffed, even if it drops from a height. Vintij has reminded me about the torso wires, but even they would only be likely to break only if handled directly. The tolerancing is superb. There will not be a better 3PO released in years, if ever. I'm guilty of being a sucker for the weight too :)
 
This C-3PO is the greatest figure I own and I think the Die Cast plays a big part in that. I love the weight of it, I love the look of it. No other C-3PO will come close to this.

I can't see how adding any plastic to this would have done anything other than ruin it.

I own figures and toys from the 80's that are die cast and I played with them and I still own some of them today, they've held up well quality wise.

I'm up for a Die Cast RoboCop and the Iron Man.
 
I picked him up. Haven't had the pleasure of displaying him or posing him. My initial reaction was WoW! I've got a few hot toys and this guy just outshines them :) I'm on the hunt on getting a Luke DX or if that doesn't come through I might consider selling him because I have no other Star Wars pieces. If you're a Star Wars fan it's a definite pick up. Your only problem will be finding a suitable R2 to pose him with. The die cast on this rocks and am a total fan of it.
 
I still don't think you are understanding my issue with your statement. And I don't take offense to your comments, please don't take any from mine.

You said that there was an over use of diecast, which suggests a mixed media design would be better. Again, I understand your personal preference for plastic, but that doesn't make a good argument for a mixed media "improvement".

I just don't agree that a mixed media design would improve it. It might be your personal preference and you did say it was your preference...so I guess that's that, but I would wager a vast majority of folks would prefer all plastic or all diecast. I doubt most would prefer mixed media. And I get the balance argument, but that's an odd request which wouldn't provide any sort of guarantee from falling or meaningful improvement for balance.

I'm not interested in a debate between which media is better, plastic or diecast. I like both for different reasons, and if they did come out with a better plastic version someday I wouldn't be against buying it because it was plastic, but only if it was ****ty and not accurate. :)

I used the word "feel" to explain the perceived value of weight because that's an opinion. So I don't think your data against diecast takes away from that feeling in any way. People didn't drive out to the desert to present the Medicom C3PO. LOL.

Picking up this thing is just awesome. And for the non-collectors who come into my home I think they see it as more impressive figure because it is metal.

It's C3PO....and it's metal, and it's awesome. Being all diecast doesn't kill it in anyway, in my opinion.

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I love that it's diecast. It is the most robust figure I own. Its joints won't snap unexpectedly when I repose it in three years. If it falls over (highly unlikely in my case) the worst that will happen will be that it gets mildly scuffed, even if it drops from a height. Vintij has reminded me about the torso wires, but even they would only be likely to break only if handled directly. The tolerancing is superb. There will not be a better 3PO released in years, if ever. I'm guilty of being a sucker for the weight too :)

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There's not much more to say. It's a guttural thing. If you feel it, enjoy. If you don't, it's not because there was a fail of any notable kind, more than likely you are just hoping for something better.

If something better does come along, it's a win for us all.
 
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There's not much more to say. It's a guttural thing. If you feel it, enjoy. If you don't, it's not because there was a fail of any notable kind, more than likely you are just hoping for something better.

If something better does come along, it's a win for us all.

Guttural? :lol

I take it you mean something to do with it being a gut feeling? In that case, I get ya. :lol
 
Well, I either just got a great deal or got screwed.

Saw a new C-3PO listed on amazon for $215 shipped from Zstore Tokyo. Their feedback is mostly all positive, like 97% I think, so I bought it. I think they will ship EMS. The main thing that concerns me, other than the abnormally low price, is that their description said "guaranteed authentic!". Usually a bad sign, but I figure it's amazon and I can get my money back if they **** me over. Still... Hope I don't have to go through the hassle...
 
Well, I either just got a great deal or got screwed.

Saw a new C-3PO listed on amazon for $215 shipped from Zstore Tokyo. Their feedback is mostly all positive, like 97% I think, so I bought it. I think they will ship EMS. The main thing that concerns me, other than the abnormally low price, is that their description said "guaranteed authentic!". Usually a bad sign, but I figure it's amazon and I can get my money back if they **** me over. Still... Hope I don't have to go through the hassle...

Let us know how it works out!
 
Well, I either just got a great deal or got screwed.

Saw a new C-3PO listed on amazon for $215 shipped from Zstore Tokyo. Their feedback is mostly all positive, like 97% I think, so I bought it. I think they will ship EMS. The main thing that concerns me, other than the abnormally low price, is that their description said "guaranteed authentic!". Usually a bad sign, but I figure it's amazon and I can get my money back if they **** me over. Still... Hope I don't have to go through the hassle...

You should be fine. This figure is still widely available, so it's very likely the store is just trying to clear their stock. And this isn't the type of figure you'd see bootlegged. Good luck!
 
Thanks! I'm excited. If it shows up brand new and without any QC issues, since I doubt this store would take care of any, I'll be sitting pretty and finaly have this guy! And at an unbeatable price!
 
Well, I either just got a great deal or got screwed.

Saw a new C-3PO listed on amazon for $215 shipped from Zstore Tokyo. Their feedback is mostly all positive, like 97% I think, so I bought it. I think they will ship EMS. The main thing that concerns me, other than the abnormally low price, is that their description said "guaranteed authentic!". Usually a bad sign, but I figure it's amazon and I can get my money back if they **** me over. Still... Hope I don't have to go through the hassle...

It's not outrageously cheap, before they ran out of stock AmiAmi sold if for USD204 shipped, and Popcultcha has it for USD235 +shipping on ebay, so going by that it should be okay.

Amazon should be almost guaranteed to reimburse you if anything is wrong, they're very good that way.

It seems that Popcultcha is pretty good at avoiding customs fees and stuff for us Europeans BTW, just a little tip.
 
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