The Amazing Spider Man 2 (2014)

[Chapter 2099]

If they do a good job with this one and they continue to do so, I'll probably won't mind so much, but who wouldn't want to see the X-men, Avengers, FF and Spiderman all interact with each other?

I can agree with that. I just am not ready for Disney to get this one back yet. I do hope Disney gets X-Men and FF back one day though.

I'm not sold on Webb yet. I didn't think TASM was bad, but it could have been a lot better. Now that Webb is no longer shackled to telling an origin story, this will prove whether he can make a great Spiderman film or not. Everything I'm seeing with TASM2 leads me to believe he will be able to.

I was unsure of the guy before ASM. Then I saw it and he sold me. I think he's going to take it up a few notches for ASM2 (at least I hope he does.) From the interviews that I've seen with him, I like his vision of what he wants accomplished. And while I don't think ASM was flawless, I think it was a great way to start of a trilogy.

 

[Uncanny Web-Slinger]

Best news I've heard all day.

Webb is coming back.

And Sony has no plans on letting go of Spider-Man any time soon.

Great day to be a Spider-Man fan. And Andrew agrees....

I'm glad Webb is back too

Spider-Man is a great character. I love him. I love his supporting cast. But can he and his small world meet an entire studio's tentpole needs? Can the Spiderverse become the annual backbone of Sony's slate? Probably not, but that won't stop them from trying.


According to Variety the studio plans to begin releasing a Spider-Man universe movie every single year, probably beginning in 2016 with The Amazing Spider-Man 3. The other films in the series will be Venom and The Sinister Six, which had already been announced but which weren't clearly parts of a cornerstone plan for the studio. The way that Amy Pascal, so-chair of Sony Pictures Entertainment, puts it, Spidey is their man. “We are expanding the ‘Spider-Man’ universe into ‘The Sinister Six’ and ‘Venom,’ so that we have ‘Spider-Man’ movies every year,” Pascal says.


But does that make sense? Not according to media analyst Harold Vogel, whose quote leads off the Variety piece: “It’s creative entropy, and I think there’s been too much of a reliance on ‘Spider-Man,’ ” he says. “They need some other things to build out.”


This feels like a poorly thought out reaction to Marvel's success. What Sony doesn't seem to understand is that the Marvel movies each feel different, that they each take place in slightly separated universes that allow for different audiences. The fantasy of Thor isn't your thing? Check out the scifi of iron Man. Want something more down-to-earth? Here's the Captain America series. Want huge spectacle? The Avengers has you covered. Looking for fun action? Guardians of the Galaxy hits this summer. Marvel, while making comic book movies, has created a diversity in their product. Sinister Six and especially Venom are just riffs on the Spider-Man movies - at least that's what they would seem to be, based on their comic pedigrees.


A Spider-Man "universe" movie a year - especially with two-thirds of them being villain movies - feels like a quick way to burn out a cash cow. And honestly, Spider-Man doesn't have a universe. He has a city.


Meanwhile, the Variety article confirms that Marc Webb is back for The Amazing Spider-Man 3; I assume he's coming back for 4 as well, since he says he sees The Amazing Spider-Man 2 as beginning a new trilogy.


SOURCE: VARIETY

I disagree that Spidey doesn't have "universe" capability, there's Prowler, Black Cat, Scarlet Spider, Venom and all the villains.

But not everything has to be a Universe.

 

[Niltusk]

I can agree with that. I just am not ready for Disney to get this one back yet. I do hope Disney gets X-Men and FF back one day though.

With the deal they have with Disney, I honestly take Feige at his word when he says he doesn't care about getting Spiderman back, now Fox on the other hand I think he has dreams of seeing them broke.

 

[Deckard]

No reason you can't release a Spiderman every year if you have a well written gameplan in advance. Obviously that won't last forever but if they get upto Spiderman 5 and a successful Venom spinoff, go for it. Theres plenty of characters and story you can tell if you do it right. The loss of Gwen and bringing in Mary Jane, having a black suit movie, than one where he fights all his prior villains to close it out would be great. Just don't end up like Raimi would and have M.J. kidnapped 4-5 times a movie. And I don't see the downside to all that only taking 5 years instead of 10. It's great for me because I'm greedy and it's great because you can keep the core cast without them aging to the point where they don't belong there anymore. Does not knowing if there will every be an Iron Man 4 and if there is whether it'd feature RDJ really keep you excited about that universe? I'd rather know we're getting 3 more, one a year.

 

[thenammagazine]

Spider-Man, much like the X-Men can easily have a self-contained universe. The real question is if they'll handle it correctly or not. If we continue to get rehashed territory or continually lame villains, I see them running this into the ground and either defaulting on production and the license going back to Marvel, or them just tapping out and putting Spidey up for sale.

 

[pturtle]

With the deal they have with Disney, I honestly take Feige at his word when he says he doesn't care about getting Spiderman back, now Fox on the other hand I think he has dreams of seeing them broke.

Whats the deal?

 

[Niltusk]

I'd be happy to see RDJ sign to do "a few more Avengers" with some added small cameos in IM, handing it off to Rhodey, like they did in the comics where alot of the Avengers still thought for awhile that it was Stark in the armor.

Its just my personal taste, but I don't want anyone in Red, White, and Blue Iron Man armor unless their bat **** crazy and has the initials N.O.

 

[Uncanny Web-Slinger]

No reason you can't release a Spiderman every year if you have a well written gameplan in advance. Obviously that won't last forever but if they get upto Spiderman 5 and a successful Venom spinoff, go for it. Theres plenty of characters and story you can tell if you do it right. The loss of Gwen and bringing in Mary Jane, having a black suit movie, than one where he fights all his prior villains to close it out would be great. Just don't end up like Raimi would and have M.J. kidnapped 4-5 times a movie. And I don't see the downside to all that only taking 5 years instead of 10. It's great for me because I'm greedy and it's great because you can keep the core cast without them aging to the point where they don't belong there anymore. Does not knowing if there will every be an Iron Man 4 and if there is whether it'd feature RDJ really keep you excited about that universe? I'd rather know we're getting 3 more, one a year.

They'll most likely be planning out an overarching story and will wait to see how Venom and S6 do at the box office to see whether it's worth do a movie each year idea

 

[Niltusk]

Whats the deal?

Sony keeps their film cash, Disney keeps their merch cash. Thats why you see plenty of Spidey merchandise and promoting the brand by Disney, which you don't see with the X-Men.

 

[pturtle]

Sony keeps their film cash, Disney keeps their merch cash. Thats why you see plenty of Spidey merchandise and promoting the brand by Disney, which you don't see with the X-Men.

Yea, I always wondered why there was barely anything from the X-Men franchise.

 

[Uncanny Web-Slinger]

Fox have the same deal, Disney has merchandising rights.

 

[Niltusk]

Fox have the same deal, Disney has merchandising rights.

Do you have any links to this deal? The last article I read on their rights was shortly after IM3 released and although not an interview with Arad, they had quoted him in the article saying they still held joint merchandising with Fox. Would love to see any updates on that.

 

[Uncanny Web-Slinger]

Life size statue

I hope Sideshow don't do a wall pose though.

 

[thenammagazine]

Its just my personal taste, but I don't want anyone in Red, White, and Blue Iron Man armor unless their bat **** crazy and has the initials N.O.

I don't think they can do that since that happened well after the license was signed.

Sony keeps their film cash, Disney keeps their merch cash. Thats why you see plenty of Spidey merchandise and promoting the brand by Disney, which you don't see with the X-Men.

That's also why you see really cheapassed toys for Spider-Man and X-Men with Kenner 5-point articulation while the Disney-owned licenses get the better toys.

 

[Niltusk]

No, I'm sure they can't, but I just personally didn't like the whole War machine is suddenly Iron Patriot.

I guess it makes sense, appealing to the patriotic side of people and making him a symbol (much like Cap) but I prefer my War Machine to remain in dark metals.

 

[karamazov80]

An interesting strategy. Curious to see how it will play out. Doing villain-centric films is a cool idea on its surface. Probably a good idea to start bringing in more good guy supporting characters like Black Cat, Scarlet Spider, Morbius, or whoever the heck Sony obtained in their license agreement to play Black Widow-type roles in other films. A thinly veiled Iceman and Firestar would be the bees knees, though I don't suppose that would happen.

(How Grunge evolved from bands like Alice in Chains.....to Nickelback and Creed )

Charles Darwin is rolling over in his grave.

 

[Niltusk]

Life size statue

I hope Sideshow don't do a wall pose though.

That is insane, I would love that in our rec room.

 

[Uncanny Web-Slinger]

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[thenammagazine]

No, I'm sure they can't, but I just personally didn't like the whole War machine is suddenly Iron Patriot.

I guess it makes sense, appealing to the patriotic side of people and making him a symbol (much like Cap) but I prefer my War Machine to remain in dark metals.

I thought the concept fit the movie, and it was much more preferable seeing Rhody in IP than Norman. Be real interesting to see where they take it in the future. I think if they do like they did in the comics, and rip off the Deathlok story, War Machine could float his own feature. They'd really have to be careful though, given they wouldn't want to stomp Deathlok, since they're introducing him in AoS.

 

[crows]

Life size statue

I hope Sideshow don't do a wall pose though.

I can already imagine fans attaching male parts to the statue for sexy role playing