The Amazing Spider Man 2 (2014)

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Alright, my take on the whole "other Marvel movies suck thing" is this: For the most part, I do think Marvel Studios has a plan and direction with all their movies, but they have a whole universe to choose from, Spidey and the X-Men kind of don't in comparison and are very limited. Marvel Studios also does write and find directors to make the movies based on characters and show people why comic book readers love them in the first place, without trying to make drastic changes. Now MS hasn't done that with everything, ala Mandarin/Thor 2. I thought Thor: The Dark World and even Iron Man 3 had way too much humor. Personally, what I love about MS movies is that they pretty much take the 616 PERSONALITIES of their characters while giving them mainly the Ultimate looks. There is a line between re-imagining and completely ignoring source material. The ASM franchise is toeing it. Tbf, we don't need Spidey or the X-Men in MS movies, those are heroes that work so much better on their own.

I personally mainly don't like how they wrote Peter Parker or any of the villains. Peter, who is arguably the most important part of these movies. I think they write him like an unlikable ****** bag. Spider-Man on the other hand was written beautifully. All the scenes with Peter in the Spider-Man costume are all brilliant and his quips are pretty much what I have read from the comics. It's not campy at all, it's PART OF HIS CHARACTER. Aunt May is very well portrayed and Gwen is to an extent though I'm not a fan of how they wrote her and Peter's relationship. Gwen's death scene could have been a tad better though.

Sometimes it confuses me when Marvel Studios goes all the way with things and when they don't. Tbh, I really wanted to see a Falcon that actually had a telepathic link to birds and somewhat not just a soldier that knew how to fly with mechanical wings, but then they go full on with the Thor universe; Nine realms, the hammer spinning, Loki's helmet, The Destroyer? Marvel Studios is not perfect by any means.

I think the main thing is unnecessary changes. Absolutely unnecessary changes. I know these movies are trying to stay grounded to a point but c'mon. Jane being an astrophysicist, Galactus being a cloud, making Electro sympathetic, Harry being the Goblin before Norman, Papa Kent implying that Clark maybe should have let the kids in that bus drown? Aldrich Killian being The Mandarin (I really think the one shot was a backpedal on MS part) You CAN make changes as long as you make them work, but that can be a huge opinion thing. Some people like the whole Harry Goblin thing. I thought it shoved in way too fast and didn't have time to breathe like how they did it in the Raimi films. My god, stop trying to make villains sympathetic. I know Red Skull wasn't as fleshed out as most people wanted him to be but I loved him simply because he was totally evil and wanted to kill millions. The Sinister Six movie is a redemption story? It's called the SINISTER Six for a reason. Just let the villains be villains sometimes.

In the end, it all comes down to making a good movie. The Dark Knight franchise was far from Batman from the comics but it was a good movie. They were written, acted, and directed fairly well. I could say the same for Iron Man 1, and The Winter Soldier, and Spider-Man 1 and 2 to an extent.
 
I've been primarily a DC fan. However, Marvel have been doing a great job recently with the Avengers line of films and Spider-Man. Now that DC have decided to destroy anything good about Dark Knight and Man of Steel, I'm really appreciating the film Marvel are Making. Winter Soldier was amazing.
 
I feel if marvel studios made this we wouldn't even have this convo. I'm starting to get annoyed by people liking everything marvel does but every other movie sucks in comparison. Every seems to be bashing xmen,spiderman and dc movies now and praising marvel studios all the time when they come out with sub par movies like Thor2 and iron man 2 and 3 and others. Marvel studios isn't bad at all but this whole marvel is the best ever trend is annoying. Besides avengers I haven't seen one movie that matches the quality of tdk or spiderman 2. Cap 2 and iron man do come close to me.

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Agreed. I found this movie to have an incredibly similar tone to Avengers and find it really odd that's this gets called campy for being humorous and colourful but Avengers doesn't even though it's roughly the same.

I'm sick of the bias and hypocrisy of the whole Rights and accuracy business

Yea its cool to dislike and not enjoy the movie but saying how electro sucks because he's blue is just kinda odd since that look is based off the ultimate look. Falcon isnt red and white but that gets a slide and no one cares. Its just weird.

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There is this idea that they are Comic accurate and Fox/Sony aren't but in reality they change about as much from the source material :dunno

They do look very unnatural, should be straight and sharp. Whenever I see Wolverine stabbing anything with them I cringe, I feel like its more painful for him than his victims :lol

They look to me like they do in the comics so it's what I expect but it would be interesting to see them smoother and whiter

saw this today...wow!!!!...what a great movie is all I can say. Loved it, can't wait for ASM3

Glad you enjoyed it
 
I;m actually excited to see how Electro looks in IMAX. I say go for it man.
 
For those that have seen it: Does Spidey keep his mask on during pivotal Spidey moments, or should I prepare for a hood-less Spidey running around the halls of school and like?
 
For those that have seen it: Does Spidey keep his mask on during pivotal Spidey moments, or should I prepare for a hood-less Spidey running around the halls of school and like?

He has his mask on the whole time except for one scene.
 
He has his mask on the whole time except for one scene.

If this comes off as crappy oh well, but I care less about Garfield taking the mask off. To me with his thin face and hair he reminds me a lot of Ditko drawn Parker, yes his hair is waiver, but its got that look, so it doesn't pull me out of what's going on onscreen. Tobey just always looked like some creepy dude wearing a Spidery costume imo.
 
If this comes off as crappy oh well, but I care less about Garfield taking the mask off. To me with his thin face and hair he reminds me a lot of Ditko drawn Parker, yes his hair is waiver, but its got that look, so it doesn't pull me out of what's going on onscreen. Tobey just always looked like some creepy dude wearing a Spidery costume imo.

I’m with you on that, it never bothered me, but it does bother me sometimes if he takes his mask off for no reason. This movie does a pretty good job at keeping his mask on though.
 
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ASM2>Thor, Thor 2, Iron Man 2, Iron Man 3, First Avenger, Incredible Hulk, haven't seen Cap 2 yet.
I think this is a pretty solid non-Marvel Studios flick IMO.

None of these new generation of Marvel films is near perfect or classic IMO (like Donner's Superman, Batman etc) they all have issues, it a case of weighing the good against the bad. Have people forgotten the IM3 hate already? (I liked it).
The Avengers wasn't a miracle movie either, it got away with a lot because it was damn clever and funny.
 
I’m with you on that, it never bothered me, but it does bother me sometimes if he takes his mask off for no reason. This movie does a pretty good job at keeping his mask on though.

Actually would take the mask removal scene with the little kid in ASM1 over many other 'feel good' setups in flicks. I guess for me if the utilization makes sense... go for it... he's Spiderman, not Judge Dread. :lol
 
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