The Amazing Spider Man 2 (2014)

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I'm sorry I don't buy into something that's that inconclusive in how it wants to approach the world it presents.

No need to apologize, I actually don't care if you buy into ASM2 or not. ;)

I saw Peter as kind of a cocky, chipper guy with some personal demons from his childhood (parental abandonment) and as a teen/adult (Cap Stacey's death.) And at the center of all that he's got a really good heart for helping others. Of course you're going to see shifts in how he approaches any given conflict depending on what inside of him gets triggered and how deep that trigger goes.
 
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You should have left the kid :lol

:horror :horror

And the sculpt and paint are pretty clean from what I can see, I might have to pick him up, it's not Jakks Pacific is it?

I have Vader and it's a pretty cool figure to have for the price.

Yup, same company.

Yup, their Vader is nice, and dare I say their clone trooper.

But their Superman and Batman are ass. :lol

The Spiderman has sharp paint lines.
 
^Except that the film ITSELF doesn't deal with it that casually. Had it done so in a consistent way, I would've at least enjoyed it more. Which is exactly why I don't think the film works. What you just mentioned is mostly how Iron Man deals with his **** and whether you like that style or not, they at least do it consistently – 'it' being playing fast and loose with your characters.

But you can't have spider-man go through tons of dramatic ****, try to establish villains that you care about in real grounded and dramatic way, approach them tonally with a heavy amount of weight, and yet whenever it's convenient to move the plot along, spider-man just rolls with it and suddenly it's a casual lighthearted superhero flick again.

That's having your cake and eating it too, writing-wise. This film should've chosen to be either Iron Man or The Dark Knight, either Avengers, or Man of Steel. You can't mix those two types of approaches to the material imo.

Yes there is a middle ground, in a way that the 90s TAS clicked for example, or Winter Soldier for example, which is really impressive in how it balances comedy and drama, both of them looking for this balance in a different spot, you gotta dial both tones back to a real balance that flows fluently and in which both tones 'respect' each other. That connect to each other. Instead we got Mr. Freeze (Rhino) in the same film as that kid from Chronicle (Harry). That's bizarre to me.

I'm sorry I don't buy into something that's that inconclusive in how it wants to approach the world it presents.



I don't know how Spidey Comics became so popular..... The tone of the comics is very much the same. But your opinion is not a lone voice. Many feel the same way. Which is why I am not sure how the comics got popular or should I say remained popular.

Also I thought the "Tone" of the Harry story was always Serious.... No jokes there told by Spidey and then it ends with the death of Gwen. But never once is that story arc treated lightly.

Electro was handled with humor in the New York scene... But pretty much (other then awful German Scientist) he was treated as a serious threat by both the film and Spidey.

Pretty much the Tone was only lighthearted when Spidey fought Rhino in the beginning and end.

I just can't believe how much this film has divided the fans in two... Usually I can get where the other side is coming from ie... why some like MOS. Other then the German Scientist and Max's Riddler comparisons I just don't get the complaints. Oh well... Good for me... I got to enjoy the new SM movie :)
 
I had avoided this thread for some time to stay away from spoilers. I wish I had peaked and saved myself a bit of money.

Today I saw ASM2 and I can't get over how much I hated it. Hated the soundtrack. Hated the back between forth goofy and dramatic. Hated all of the villains. Hated the god-awful sledgehammer foreshadowing in Gwen's speech. There were a FEW little moments where the movie held the promise of something better (Sally Field's "You're my boy" scene was actually touching) but there's so... much... sh-t in the rest of the film.

Tobey Maguire's last Spider-Man movie is suddenly looking better by comparison.
 
I just can't believe how much this film has divided the fans in two... Usually I can get where the other side is coming from ie... why some like MOS. Other then the German Scientist and Max's Riddler comparisons I just don't get the complaints. Oh well... Good for me... I got to enjoy the new SM movie :)

Word. We got a perfect costumed Spider-Man on screen (in look and attitude,) some great action and chemistry, an emotional death and an enormously uplifting and endearing finale. I find it amusing that people are trying to take a movie with such strengths and pretend it's worse than SM3 or B&R. All right go enjoy that crap, I'm so glad I get to enjoy the hell out of this one. :D

So far this year we got the best superhero movie ever (TWS) and arguably the best Spidey film. I didn't see that coming. Bring on DOFP and GOTG!
 
Having rewatched S3 lastnight with the wife, I will say that Harry's death was just as sad as Gwen's, if not more so.


The movie was not as bad as I remembered but still some face palming stuff in there.

I haven't watched it since the movies, but I don't even remember how he died. Real memorable flick. :lol
 
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