The Book Of Boba Fett (December 2021)

[ebor]

They seem to enjoy beating prisoners with sticks? I guess for the entertainment value.

Just like Disney likes to beat SW fans with BOBF...I guess for the entertainment value

 

[Khev]

Okay so for whatever reason I watched this episode again. Man, there's just so little to like.

The Sarlacc escape can still be somewhat salvaged if they keep coming back to it with additional flashbacks. A lot could have happened between him initially turning on the flamethrower to his hand bursting out of the sand. I won't hold my breath but we'll see.

So the sandpeople revive him, possibly saving him from death, and make him a slave. So did they turn him on to their ways or is he just a massive hypocrite with Fennec?

And he just makes such a pathetic captive. So many times they show him looking around with wide-eyed concern and fear. He should have been calm, fearless, and instantly sizing up how he'd be killing each and every Tusken, even while bound (like Harry Tasker in True Lies and countless other "badass gets tied up" flicks.)

I loved the scene where the Tusken children were lightly tapping him with sticks, way to sell that beatdown featured extras! Though I'm sure the AD was mortified that TM might get injured by anything more substantial.

Also "Stranger in a Strange Land?" Um didn't ANH:SE and ROTJ pretty heavily imply that Fett spends a lot of time on Tatooine? And yet he is utterly incapable of communicating with the Tuskens? Compared to Mando who was not born on Tatooine, didn't live on Tatooine, yet could communicate effortlessly with the Tuskens (and their dogs) in their native language while also being intimately familiar with all their customs. So who's the best bounty hunter in the galaxy again? "Hey Fett if you ever need any pointers on how to deal with the local thugs of your own planet just let me know."

"I intend to lead with respect." And yet literally *no one* respects him. The first thing he says to Fennec when rising from his beta--I mean bacta tank is "the dreams are back?" To which she replies "It's time to go, the tributes are here." Wow, way to needlessly share vulnerability with your indentured servant. He didn't even get the "there, there" and the pat on the back he was obviously seeking. I'm surprised she didn't say "It's time to go, the tributes are here...p***y."

And it was very strange hearing him say that he "used to work for" that one Trandoshan. "Did a job for" sure. But "work for?" What happened to mister "I answer to no one?"

Why is Mad Max, a good guy, so much more hardcore and badass than Fett, a villain? You know that Max would have jumped at the chance to loot that homestead. That Tusken kid and his dog should have been dead the second the bandits sped off. Right in front of Fett's eyes was an entire residence that offered shelter and assumedly food, water, possibly even weapons and a speeder and he let's it go so that he can keep serving the kid?

The less said about the ridiculous Twi'lek who insults him in his own pad the better.

Same with the parkour fight. It was absolutely awful. If Fett wanted to use his wrist rocket he could have at least done something cool like shoot their feet under the shields and blow them sky high. I did briefly contemplate putting on my apologist's hat and consider that maybe his jetpack required that he be wearing his helmet before quickly realizing that no, that would make him walking around without it even *more* stupid. All he had to do when when they got their helmets back and Fennec said "your helmet looks shinier than mine" was say "not anymore" and then dump the coins into her helmet before putting his back on. But no, maximum stupidity was the order of the day.

Even if he comes back with a vengeance and murders the mayor, wipes out the Tuskens, kills the Twi'lek, etc., it still won't undo anyone of the idiocy and incompetence that he willfully displayed in this episode from beginning to end. It really was just the worst.

 

[The Clown Prince of Crime]

Okay so for whatever reason I watched this episode again. Man, there's just so little to like.

The Sarlacc escape can still be somewhat salvaged if they keep coming back to it with additional flashbacks. A lot could have happened from him initially turning on the flamethrower to his hand bursting out of the sand. I won't hold my breath but we'll see.

So the sandpeople revive him, possibly saving him from death, and make him a slave. So did they turn him on to their ways or is he just a massive hypocrite with Fennec?

And he just makes such a pathetic captive. So many times they show him looking around with wide-eyed concern and fear. He should have been calm, fearless, and instantly sizing up how he'd be killing each and every Tusken, even while bound (like Harry Tasker in True Lies and countless other "badass gets tied up" flicks.)

I loved the scene where the child Tusken children were lightly tapping him with sticks, way to sell that beatdown featured extras! Though I'm sure the AD was mortified that TM might get injured by anything more substantial.

Also "Stranger in a Strange Land?" Um didn't ANH:SE and ROTJ pretty heavily imply that Fett spends a lot of time on Tatooine? And yet he is utterly incapable of communicating with the Tuskens? Compared to Mando who was not born on Tatooine, didn't live on Tatooine, yet could communicate effortlessly with the Tuskens (and their dogs) in their native language while also being intimately familiar with all their customs. So who's the best bounty hunter in the galaxy again? "Hey Fett if you ever need any pointers on how to deal with the local thugs of your own planet just let me know."

"I intend to lead with respect." And yet literally *no one* respects him. The first thing he says to Fennec when rising from his beta--I mean bacta tank is "the dreams are back?" To which she replies "It's time to go, the tributes are here." Wow, way to needlessly share vulnerability with your indentured servant. He didn't even get the "there, there" and the pat on the back he was obviously seeking. I'm surprised she didn't say "It's time to go, the tributes are here...*****."

And it was very strange hearing him say that he "used to work for" that one Trandoshan. "Did a job for" sure. But "work for?" What happened to mister "I answer to no one?"

Why is Mad Max, a good guy, so much more hardcore and badass than Fett, a villain? You KNOW that Max would have jumped at the chance to loot that homestead. That Tusken kid and his dog should have been dead the second the bandits sped off. Right in front of Fett's eyes was an entire residence that offered shelter and assumedly food, water, possibly even weapons and a speeder and he let's it go so that he can keep serving the kid?

The less said about the ridiculous Twi'lek who insults him in his own pad the better.

Same with the parkour fight. It was absolutely awful. If Fett wanted to use his wrist rocket he could have at least done something cool like shoot their feet under the shields and blow them sky high. I did briefly contemplate putting on my apologist's hat and consider that maybe his jetpack required that he be wearing his helmet before quickly realizing that no, that would make him walking around without it even *more* stupid. All he had to when when they got their helmets back and Fennec said "your helmet looks shinier than mine" was say "not anymore" and then dump the coins into her helmet before putting his back on. But no, maximum stupidity was the order of the day.

Even if he comes back with a vengeance and murders the mayor, wipes out the Tuskens, kills the Twi'lek, etc., it still won't undo anyone of the idiocy and incompetence that he willfully displayed in this episode from beginning to end. It really was just the worst.

G Zeus

 

[matticus]

G Zeus

Ep2 can't come fast enough

 

[ZE_501]

Ep2 can't come fast enough

It's true! Not sure how much more of this thread I can take!

 

[Khev]

G Zeus

This thread after watching the first episode of BOBF:

 

[ajp4mgs]

Which makes you wonder from the Tusken point of view, why save Boba or the Rodian? To dig up sand pumpkins a foot deep? Waste of water on keeping prisoners alive.

It all stems from different Legends material about Tusken Raiders. I'm pretty sure that most of it was written to explain why they captured and tortured Shmi. It was probably Filoni who knew about this EU stuff and incorporated it.

Anyway, it was established that Tuskens had a "bloodrite" ritual where a young Tusken would graduate this rite of passage by taking a beast captive and torturing it to death. Taking a sentient/intelligent victim would earn an even greater level of respect. So that's presumably why it was a kid out there leading Fett and the Rodian around while torturing them physically and psychologically (pouring out the water).

I think it was in EU comics that another version of the rite of passage was described where it took a great feat of courage to become a true Tusken worthy of respect. I'm assuming that by bringing back the head of the four-armed creature, the kid passed the ritual that way and wouldn't need to torture Fett anymore.

What's weird about it is why the elder would reward Fett for allowing the kid to fake being the one who killed the creature. That makes zero sense. If it's a ritualistic thing, the Tuskens would honor the tradition enough not to reward a guy for helping a kid pass it falsely.

 

[ajp4mgs]

I did briefly contemplate putting on my apologist's hat and consider that maybe his jetpack required that he be wearing his helmet before quickly realizing that no, that would make him walking around without it even *more* stupid. All he had to do when when they got their helmets back and Fennec said "your helmet looks shinier than mine" was say "not anymore" and then dump the coins into her helmet before putting his back on. But no, maximum stupidity was the order of the day.

My issue with so much of Fett not wearing the helmet is that this show is treating it like he considers the helmet to be tactical gear, and so doesn't need to wear it in social settings. But then the show seemingly forgets that pretty much *every* setting is a tactical situation for a crime boss who just assassinated the previous guy. It's not like Bib would've kept the throne without alliances and dangerous loyalists.

More importantly, the no helmet thing makes zero logical sense with respect to the context of his OT appearances. He was wearing it on the star destroyer in a non-tactical bounty briefing. He was wearing it in Jabba's palace when all they were doing was listening to music and socializing. And most importantly, he was wearing it in ESB while all alone piloting Slave I.

Having it on all the time made sense. Fett would have multiple advantages by keeping his appearance masked so that he could have a discreet alternate identity. All of that goes out the window if his face is being seen all the time like it is in this show.

 

[Khev]

My issue with so much of Fett not wearing the helmet is that this show is treating it like he considers the helmet to be tactical gear, and so doesn't need to wear it in social settings. But then the show seemingly forgets that pretty much *every* setting is a tactical situation for a crime boss who just assassinated the previous guy. It's not like Bib would've kept the throne without alliances and dangerous loyalists.

More importantly, the no helmet thing makes zero logical sense with respect to the context of his OT appearances. He was wearing it on the star destroyer in a non-tactical bounty briefing. He was wearing it in Jabba's palace when all they were doing was listening to music and socializing. And most importantly, he was wearing it in ESB while all alone piloting Slave I.

Having it on all the time made sense. Fett would have multiple advantages by keeping his appearance masked so that he could have a discreet alternate identity. All of that goes out the window if his face is being seen all the time like it is in this show.

Yep, him wearing it while piloting Slave I really is the kicker isn't it.

And even if you wanted to accept his AOTC "clone" backstory that gives him even *more* reason to keep it on. Because as we saw in the first season of Mando since none of the Mandalorians ever removed their helmets they all had slightly different configurations and customizations in part because their helmets *were* their faces for all intents and purposes.

Well how much more would Fett want his mask to be his face as opposed to the same basic clone visage seen by the galaxy a thousand times over. Whether you're an OT or an OT/PT guy his casual approach to donning his helmet just makes zero damn sense.

 

[The Buffinator]

Ep2 can't come fast enough

It's true! Not sure how much more of this thread I can take!

Then again, just imagine how good this thread may get with another episode's worth of material - we're talking the comedy mother lode!

 

[matticus]

Then again, just imagine how good this thread may get with another episode's worth of material - we're talking the comedy mother lode!

I am thinking this might be the case - we've seen the swoop gang and the dinner scene. Not sure how excited I am about either of those scenes with the way the first one played out.

 

[The Buffinator]

I am thinking this might be the case - we've seen the swoop gang and the dinner scene. Not sure how excited I am about either of those scenes with the way the first one played out.

The one silver lining is that my expectations have cratered after such a disappointing start, so I'm going forward with the attitude that it can't get any worse...and yet fully expecting that it will.

 

[Otomofan]

I'm just sad cause I know no matter what, I'm not gonna get what I want out of this show, which is the Jennifer Beals/Ming-Na Wen pillow fight.



Sigh.

 

[a-dev]

My issue with so much of Fett not wearing the helmet is that this show is treating it like he considers the helmet to be tactical gear, and so doesn't need to wear it in social settings. But then the show seemingly forgets that pretty much *every* setting is a tactical situation for a crime boss who just assassinated the previous guy. It's not like Bib would've kept the throne without alliances and dangerous loyalists.

More importantly, the no helmet thing makes zero logical sense with respect to the context of his OT appearances. He was wearing it on the star destroyer in a non-tactical bounty briefing. He was wearing it in Jabba's palace when all they were doing was listening to music and socializing. And most importantly, he was wearing it in ESB while all alone piloting Slave I.

Having it on all the time made sense. Fett would have multiple advantages by keeping his appearance masked so that he could have a discreet alternate identity. All of that goes out the window if his face is being seen all the time like it is in this show.

This no helmet thing alone makes it hard to accept this show as canon. At least in Mandalorian we saw him without his armour and helmet because it had been taken from him and he was getting it back - though I can't recall how often we saw him without the helmet thereafter in that show.....

 

[Otomofan]

Well, he's been without it for some time now. Maybe he got used to the nice breeze on his scarred scalp. Now when he wears it, it's stifling.

I don't think he took it off after he put it back on in the Mandalorian. Only when the battle was over and he showed Mando his chain code.

When we saw him in the last two episodes, (mostly just piloting the Anakin One) he had the helmet on at all times. Including when Koska Reeves kicked his ***.

 

[chrisstbh]

This show is basically changing the character to fit the script, rather than changing the script to fit the character.

 

[The Clown Prince of Crime]

This no helmet thing alone makes it hard to accept this show as canon. At least in Mandalorian we saw him without his armour and helmet because it had been taken from him and he was getting it back - though I can't recall how often we saw him without the helmet thereafter in that show.....

It is kind of strange to see him carrying the helmet instead of wearing it like he used to in the OT. Then again, he spent 5 years without it, and he may not be the same guy he once was, so I can kind of justify it. However, we know the real reason he doesn't wear the helmet as much. Actors don't want their faces hidden, and Disney doesn't want another Pedro Pascal situation.

Having said all that, I feel that Boba Fett should always wear his helmet in public, and only show his face in private to those he trusts, in this case, Fennec, because she knew him before he wore the armor. Seeing Boba Fett walking into a place, meeting people, without his helmet, and handing it over to have it shinned? I don't understand that at all. It seemed careless and illogical.

Maybe showing his face is part of his newfound honor code, and showing his face is meant as a symbol of trust or a sign of goodwill? Perhaps he no longer wants to be anonymous and mysterious and wants people to see him? Is not wearing a helmet a low-key power move on his part, to show that he's not afraid to be exposed sort of speak?

 

[a-dev]

Well if that's what they're going with I think they do need to have him specifically address it in the show because right now it just registers as a huge inconsistency.

 

[Johnny Utah]

This no helmet thing alone makes it hard to accept this show as canon. At least in Mandalorian we saw him without his armour and helmet because it had been taken from him and he was getting it back - though I can't recall how often we saw him without the helmet thereafter in that show.....

I like to think they do that because Pedro Pascal is too busy to be on set all the time. Temuera Morrison wasn't

Pedro is still in Canada filming The Last of Us until June while Mando s3 has been filming since November.

 

[Otomofan]

Perhaps he learned the true meaning of friendship while living with the Tuskens, and now he wants to go out and share that with the rest of the galaxy.

You know, like Ed Norton's character in American History X.