bloodgear
Super Freak
No I'm not. I'm not. Thay are two entirely different people in the mediums.
You have Batman, where Bruce Wayne is the mask and Batman is the real person. Mostly the comic version. Heck even the 89 version.
Then you have Bruce Wayne, where Batman is the mask. The Nolan version.
Lame point. He talks like Batman because they're blindfolded plus it's good for interrogation. Someone could recognise him through his voice.
People obviously aren't allowed to have an opinion here. They're either "smoking weed" or they're shot down and it's wrong if it doesn't match to what someone else thinks.
To me, in these films, Batman is very much a major part of Bruce Wayne. But he isn't the real Bruce Wayne.
"it's not who I am underneath but what I do that defines me"
Yes, fair point. She does say that Wayne is the mask. But that isn't how it comes across to me in the film from his own characterisation.
It's the same in the comics? Hardly.
Underneath he is Bruce Wayne. What he does is fight crime as Batman.
In a lot of the comics and animated mediums who he is underneath is simply Batman. His throwing away of the false Bruce Wayne identity but for his true "The Batman" in Kingdom Come for example. In one of the Timmverse Animated series he's talking about being in a dream state but he knew it was false because someone in it called him bruce. "In my dreams I don't call myself Bruce"
Miller's TDKR is a prime example of who Batman is, to me. Especially the end, because it's so similar to Rises but yet he goes on. He doesn't stop and live out in Paris, he continues.
Yeah, I've read tons of the comics actually. I've seen all of the Timmverse and others. I still keep up with the current stuff. Yes, they've switched it about a fair bit through the years. But everyone always has their definitive version.
Keaton's Batman is closer to that.
Yet again this'll probably be shot down as well.
You have Batman, where Bruce Wayne is the mask and Batman is the real person. Mostly the comic version. Heck even the 89 version.
Then you have Bruce Wayne, where Batman is the mask. The Nolan version.
Lame point. He talks like Batman because they're blindfolded plus it's good for interrogation. Someone could recognise him through his voice.
People obviously aren't allowed to have an opinion here. They're either "smoking weed" or they're shot down and it's wrong if it doesn't match to what someone else thinks.
To me, in these films, Batman is very much a major part of Bruce Wayne. But he isn't the real Bruce Wayne.
"it's not who I am underneath but what I do that defines me"
Yes, fair point. She does say that Wayne is the mask. But that isn't how it comes across to me in the film from his own characterisation.
It's the same in the comics? Hardly.
Underneath he is Bruce Wayne. What he does is fight crime as Batman.
In a lot of the comics and animated mediums who he is underneath is simply Batman. His throwing away of the false Bruce Wayne identity but for his true "The Batman" in Kingdom Come for example. In one of the Timmverse Animated series he's talking about being in a dream state but he knew it was false because someone in it called him bruce. "In my dreams I don't call myself Bruce"
Miller's TDKR is a prime example of who Batman is, to me. Especially the end, because it's so similar to Rises but yet he goes on. He doesn't stop and live out in Paris, he continues.
Yeah, I've read tons of the comics actually. I've seen all of the Timmverse and others. I still keep up with the current stuff. Yes, they've switched it about a fair bit through the years. But everyone always has their definitive version.
Keaton's Batman is closer to that.
Yet again this'll probably be shot down as well.
