The Hobbit: The Desolation of Smaug

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Love these films and Peter Jackson as a director, he's a genius but The Hobbit movies are not even in the same league as the LOTR trilogy quality wise.

If I had to sum up The Hobbit movies in one word it would be overindulgent. Please wind back the cartoon like action sequences for the next movie a notch and show a little restraint, it's over the top and takes you right out of the movie. Oh and why is Legolas like a super ninja / elven Jesus in this movie?

Still enjoyed it though.
 
Love these films and Peter Jackson as a director, he's a genius but The Hobbit movies are not even in the same league as the LOTR trilogy quality wise.

If I had to sum up The Hobbit movies in one word it would be overindulgent. Please wind back the cartoon like action sequences for the next movie a notch and show a little restraint, it's over the top and takes you right out of the movie. Oh and why is Legolas like a super ninja / elven Jesus in this movie?

Still enjoyed it though.

The thing is the hobbit as a book isn't as dark as the LOTR trilogy book series. So why ask something to be dark when it's not?
 
I'm not angry. I just meant I don't want to beat a dead horse on why I don't agree. If I keep beating why I disagree it may make folks look at them badly because I won't shut up. That's all.

PS: A couple of my comments you quoted were just general comments, and not directed at you specifically.

That's cool Josh. No hard feelings. Glad you are not angry. Last thing I wanted to do.

Now about that Mud wrestling....
 
The thing is the hobbit as a book isn't as dark as the LOTR trilogy book series. So why ask something to be dark when it's not?

That has been an issue I think for folks the last couple of years. DOS is darker and closer to LOTR in tone but still much lighter at the same time. The stories are very similar but different in both book and movie form.
 
When it comes to Thorin, I think nothing beats this french poster. All of Thorin's majesty and badassery captured in one picture. The way he gazes wistfully into the horizon. The way he holds the sword to his chest, almost caressing the blade with his ring finger. I am in love with this poster :)

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That's a great looking poster...I thought the French character posters were a lot better than the other ones.
 
Love these films and Peter Jackson as a director, he's a genius but The Hobbit movies are not even in the same league as the LOTR trilogy quality wise.

If I had to sum up The Hobbit movies in one word it would be overindulgent. Please wind back the cartoon like action sequences for the next movie a notch and show a little restraint, it's over the top and takes you right out of the movie. Oh and why is Legolas like a super ninja / elven Jesus in this movie?

Still enjoyed it though.

I'm sure that stuff is in there for little kids. Either way, there's only two spots where we see some really out there stuff. Mirkwood and barrels out of bonds.

Also, the Legolas of DoS is doing the same Super Legolas stuff he did in TT and RotK. Bringing down the Oliphant single handily and then surfing the Trunk. Not to mention surfing down the stairs in the battle of Helms Deep and whatever the hell you call what he did mounting the horse in the Warg attack in TT.

Not that I'm overly fond of the cartoony stuff, but I fully expected the same stuff with Legolas in Dos, because Jackson did it in the LOTR.
 
Love these films and Peter Jackson as a director, he's a genius but The Hobbit movies are not even in the same league as the LOTR trilogy quality wise.

If I had to sum up The Hobbit movies in one word it would be overindulgent. Please wind back the cartoon like action sequences for the next movie a notch and show a little restraint, it's over the top and takes you right out of the movie. Oh and why is Legolas like a super ninja / elven Jesus in this movie?

Still enjoyed it though.

Because Elves are that way. They can fight. They're quick and light footed.

Elven Jesus? Really? :lol
 
Because Elves are that way. They can fight. They're quick and light footed.

Elven Jesus? Really? :lol

Right, tell that to the LOTR films where elves still used to run half a mile without doing 50 back flips. He's right, it's incredibly over indulgent and over the top. "quick and light footed," understatement of the year.
 
Legolas doesn't fight any different than he does in the LOTR films and the elves in the trees just hop from tree to tree. There's some exaggeration going on here for sure.
 
Right, tell that to the LOTR films where elves still used to run half a mile without doing 50 back flips. He's right, it's incredibly over indulgent and over the top. "quick and light footed," understatement of the year.

Well there sure have been a lot of overstatements in this thread as well. Over exaggerating what you've seen.

50 back flips? :lol
 
Legolas doesn't fight any different than he does in the LOTR films and the elves in the trees just hop from tree to tree. There's some exaggeration going on here for sure.

And Legolas had his Jesus moment in FOTR. He walked on top of snow. :lol
 
If those Cirque du Soleil people can do what they do, I have no problem with what the elves can do with hundreds of years of practice.

:bouncin :archer
 
Right, tell that to the LOTR films where elves still used to run half a mile without doing 50 back flips.
He's right, it's incredibly over indulgent and over the top. "quick and light footed," understatement of the year.

I've already made post about why complaints isn't really a valid complaint when you compare both trilogies.

So Legolas bouncing off the dwarves is over indulgent and over the top, and we should Tell that to the LOTR films. The films where Legolas surfed down the flight of stairs, Did that Super human feat to get back on the Horse during the Warg attack in TT. Then, in ROTK he single Handily Takes down in Oliphant, then surfs down the Trunk.

Would I have loved all the action scenes to be like Amon Hen? Absolutly, but it's Really starting to sound like a double standard is going on here, and the statement isn't directed at anyone, just in general.:dunno
 
I've already made post about why complaints isn't really a valid complaint when you compare both trilogies.

So Legolas bouncing off the dwarves is over indulgent and over the top, and we should Tell that to the LOTR films. The films where Legolas surfed down the flight of stairs, Did that Super human feat to get back on the Horse during the Warg attack in TT. Then, in ROTK he single Handily Takes down in Oliphant, then surfs down the Trunk.

Would I have loved all the action scenes to be like Amon Hen? Absolutly, but it's Really starting to sound like a double standard is going on here, and the statement isn't directed at anyone, just in general.:dunno

And those that you just named are literally ALL the "super human" Legolas events of the original trilogy which is almost 10 hours. In The Hobbit? He does more crazy **** in 1 film then the original trilogy combined, they just went too far with it.
 
eh....it was lighthearted fun. Nothing wrong with that.

btw.......just got back from my second viewing. This time in regular 2D. The theater was packed for the 5pm showing.

I have to say, after seeing it the first time in HFR, the overall picture on this one seem dull. I did see it in a different theater from the first one though. Could've been the theater. Comparing the two though, I'd rather see it in HFR 3D.
 
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