The Hobbit: The Desolation of Smaug

[pixletwin]

First movie I ever saw in the theater!

The first two movies I recall seeing. Star Wars and Pete's Dragon.

 

[TURINS~BANE]

I have a soft spot for the dragon in Dragonslayer. I remember being blown away when I first saw that.

wasn't bad for the time..

 

[Fritz]

I also enjoyed Reign of Fire and own the bluray. Great Dragon's but surprisingly I think Smaug is better.

 

[TURINS~BANE]

I need a weta Smaug..

 

[ExMem-LarjaThwei]

I need a weta Smaug..

Is there any word on one? Or Legolas?

 

[abake]

Sorry if this is the wrong place to ask, but I figure this is the best place to find an answer...
I must have missed something, but can someone explain the timeline of Moira's occupation by Dwarves in PJ's movies?
I'm a bit confused as to why Gimli was so surprised to find out that Moria was overrun by Orcs when Thorin saw it with his own eyes and indeed, did battle them there.

 

[abake]

Sorry, another question: why are there any doubts over Sauron's return in LOTR if Gandalf has already clearly met him in DOS?
Or is my memory gone and I'm getting it all wrong...

 

[TURINS~BANE]

Is there any word on one? Or Legolas?

i expect weta to release a smaug statue at the end of the year, its a good choice for them

 

[T.E.D]

Sorry if this is the wrong place to ask, but I figure this is the best place to find an answer...
I must have missed something, but can someone explain the timeline of Moira's occupation by Dwarves in PJ's movies?
I'm a bit confused as to why Gimli was so surprised to find out that Moria was overrun by orcs when Thorin saw it with his own eyes and indeed, did battle them there.

I always took Gimli's surprise to represent the audiences surprise especially for an audience that didn't know the books that after expecting a welcoming Dwarven hall it would be a surprise to the audience to find that they are all dead and Gimli's surprise was there to play off that.


As for the battle of Anzanulbizar (where Thorin delimbs Azog) in the books it occurs about 140 years before the events of The Hobbit and around 20 years after Smaug first enters Erebor but obviously within the films that timeline is more compressed and although the dwarves defeat the orcs and reclaim Moria they don't enter it at that point because of the presence of the balrog.

Balin's expedition to Moria takes place about fifty years after the events of The Hobbit in 2989 and the colony survives until 2994 and during that time they send messages to Erebor talking about their success in ousting the orcs and reopening the mines so as far as the dwarves at Erebor and hence Gimli know everything went well, Moria was secured and now there is a colony of dwarves living there.Then of course the messages stop and they hear no news of Moria.

At that point it's only another seven years until Bilbo's farewell party where he leaves Hobbiton but then it's another 17 years before Frodo leaves the Shire with the ring so in the books at least there is twenty five years between the death of Balin and the Fellowship entering Moria. However in the films there is no 17 year gap between Bilbo's farewell and Frodo's quest, personally I thought there was maybe a year at most between those events in the films.So within the films there is maybe seven or eight years between Balins death and the Fellowship finding his tomb.

So Gimli's surprise was probably to reflect the audiences suprise and from a character perspective as far as he was aware Balin's expedition was a success even though it had gone quiet it had been quiet for only a few years so he was probably hopeful of finding living dwarves whilst being aware that in reality there was very little chance and of course when he sees that he is devastated.

Sorry, another question: why are there any doubts over Sauron's return in LOTR if Gandalf has already clearly met him in DOS?
Or is my memory gone and I'm getting it all wrong...

In the LOTR Gandalf never doubted that Sauron had returned, his doubt was that Bilbo's magic ring was The One Ring and he only learned the truth about that after Bilbo did his party trick and he read the scrolls of Isildur which lead him to throw it in then fire at Bag End and reveal the lettering but Gandalf was aware that Sauron still existed.

 

[abake]

Ahhh, thank you so much for clearing that up for me!

 

[Dark Shadow]

I saw the movie too at the cinema in 3D and i liked it so much.

 

[TURINS~BANE]

seen it again today, better then first one, enjoyed it.

 

[spiderrogue]

saw it a couple of weeks ago..loved it..cant wait for it to hit dvd release....

 

[The Ween]

I'd like to see it one more time, but I'm not sure if I'm going to make it.

 

[Khev]

I'd like to see it one more time

Me too. I've seen it in 24fps 3D and HFR 3D. I'm feeling the need for a fix again and will try to catch it in 24fps IMAX 3D this week.

 

[ExMem-LarjaThwei]

I've seen it twice. Once in theaters.

 

[The Josh]

I'd like to see it one more time, but I'm not sure if I'm going to make it.

I'll make one more trip before it leaves to make it give times.

 

[Irvy]

Sweet my first Smaug coin came today

 

[The Ween]

Sweet my first Smaug coin came today

Did you get the one from the premiere in Berlin? It's really nice too.

 

[Irvy]

Did you get the one from the premiere in Berlin? It's really nice too.

Nah I've not seen that one yet. Apparently weta are releasing 5 of these coins? Nice little keepsake that doesn't break the bank.