The Last of Us - PS3 & PS4 (Remastered)

[snappahead]

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Metal Gear Rising had like 4-5 hours gametime and I replayed the hell out of it and it was worth the 60$.

I think you're being a little demanding considering the average game nowadays is 4 hours tops.

If you want game length, stick with Final Fantasy.

I knew it would happen eventually. I completely agree with you.

 

[rushmore223]

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Metal Gear Rising had like 4-5 hours gametime and I replayed the hell out of it and it was worth the 60$.

I think you're being a little demanding considering the average game nowadays is 4 hours tops.

If you want game length, stick with Final Fantasy.

I don't know what games your playing (other than the one you mentioned) and I don't think I'm being demanding. To be honest, I think a mentality like yours is music to a game makers ears. It basically says, do very little work and don't worry about giving me value for my money, cause I'll just give you my cash no matter what the final product is.

Even if that 4 to 5 hours of gameplay is the absolute best gaming experience you have ever had, it doesnt warrant a $60 price tag. Sell that same game for $20 and I might concede that point to you. To me that is like being charged $100 for a movie ticket, and then arguing that it was totally worth it. Some people are just too eager to throw away their money I guess.

Compare your fave to something like Elder Scrolls or GTA, literally those games offer hundreds of hours of gameplay. Are you going to tell me that Rockstar or Bethesda didnt put as much effort into a game as say Metal Gear Rising? So much more went into Skyrim or GTA 5 than the one you mentioned, or at least I feel safe to bet since I never played it. They cant all be as big as Elder Scrolls or GTA, but then there are games like Mass Effect which also has much more gameplay value.

Personally, I don't play Final Fantasy anymore, after FFX (which was very good) I found the series vey boring and derivitive.

I wish people wouldnt let these game companies make big profits and release games at full price that give very little back to the consumer.


All that being said TLOU was incredible, it kept me on the edge of my seat for 30 to 32 hours, which for this game was fine. The only problem is, most games can't compare to TLOU, and had it been only 4 or 5 hours long, I would have never bought another Naughty Dog game again.

I think you expect too little.

 

[darthviper107]

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You can't judge the amount of work put into a game by how long the game is. The quality level of The Last of Us is much higher than GTA V or Skyrim, much higher. The Last of Us having 16 hours of gameplay is a lot compared to many other big games that have 8 hours of gameplay plus multiplayer.

 

[snappahead]

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Nah, SP was right...you expect too much. Just kidding. Out of curiosity, what games have you been satisfied with lately. It must be pretty tough to find games that dont disappoint you.

 

[snappahead]

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You can't judge the amount of work put into a game by how long the game is. The quality level of The Last of Us is much higher than GTA V or Skyrim, much higher. The Last of Us having 16 hours of gameplay is a lot compared to many other big games that have 8 hours of gameplay plus multiplayer.

I think the comparison to level of quality is subjective in some cases, but totally agree that length has nothing to do with quality. It doesnt have much say in value either imo. Ill take an incredible short ride over a long boring one any day.

 

[rushmore223]

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Nah, SP was right...you expect too much. Just kidding. Out of curiosity, what games have you been satisfied with lately. It must be pretty tough to find games that dont disappoint you.

I don't get to play as often as I'd like to, being a father and all, but I'd say I have enjoyed the following in the past few years...

The Last Of Us
Skyrim
Mass Effect 3
GTA 4 (about to start 5)
Fallout 3
Red Dead Redemption

I even played a few Lego games with my wife, though I dont feel like they should be included on the list.

I know I'm missing a couple games that I just can't think of right now.

I think the comparison to level of quality is subjective in some cases, but totally agree that length has nothing to do with quality. It doesnt have much say in value either imo. Ill take an incredible short ride over a long boring one any day.

I can't argue wih that, but I look for quality and quantity. I remember many years ago getting a game, think it was Fade to Black (not sure), but I finished it in about 4 hours. I was never so pissed over a game purchase in my life.

 

[snappahead]

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Most of the games you mention are open world. TLoU is the only real exception. Mass Effect has a good deal of freedom. With games like TLoU, the focus is heavily on the narrative. There's no opportunity to waste tons of time messing around as youre always pushing the story forward. Theres no filler. Theres no backtracking or grinding or time wasting activities to pad the playthrough time. I think its safe to say that everyone wants quality and quantity, but if I have to choose (and you sometimes do with games) ill pick quality every time. This game could have been far shorter and id still say it was money well spent. Years from now, im betting youll remember the experience, alot more than the run time. Just my 2 cents.

 

[Snake Plissken]

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Comparing open world games to TLOU is ridiculous. And bringing up GTA V doesn't really add to your case considering GTA V was a bust, at least I thought so. TLOU still has it beat by miles. I was bored of GTA within a couple of days.

 

[Jameson Rook]

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All this talk about length equals good, I recently played "Gone Home" and it lasted for a mere 2 hours.

Turns out to be one of the most memorable games I've ever played this gen, and an experience I'll never forget.

 

[Haloid1177]

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All this talk about length equals good, I recently played "Gone Home" and it lasted for a mere 2 hours.

Turns out to be one of the most memorable games I've ever played this gen, and an experience I'll never forget.

Isn't that an indie game? I'm only saying that because that didn't cost $60 so the length short length is to be expected.

 

[Jameson Rook]

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Isn't that an indie game? I'm only saying that because that didn't cost $60 so the length short length is to be expected.

You're right, but it very expensive and totally unjustified for a 2 hour game ($20). I'm just glad the payoff was worth it and the story moved me in such a short time.

Not saying everyone will love it though, it's frikkin' 20 bucks!

 

[WellCQCaboutthat]

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im not in here to troll or anything but rushmore, you come into the conversation saying you want longer games for your $60 and then you post this:

I don't get to play as often as I'd like to, being a father and all

is your goal to spend $60 and play it for 18 years?

also, you can always wait for them to go on sale/bargain bin, you dont have to be the first to have it @ retail.

 

[rushmore223]

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im not in here to troll or anything but rushmore, you come into the conversation saying you want longer games for your $60 and then you post this:

I don't get to play as often as I'd like to, being a father and all

is your goal to spend $60 and play it for 18 years?

also, you can always wait for them to go on sale/bargain bin, you dont have to be the first to have it @ retail.

Ha ha ha, so funny.

I just buy fewer games in a year. I still managed to log about 300 hours in Skyrim, a game I loved, over the course of 18 months. Just cause I dont have as much time to play, doesnt mean I want to finish the game in a day or two.

Please, feel free to spend your money on games you can finish in a heartbeat.

 

[mistermadhouse]

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Comparing open world games to TLOU is ridiculous. And bringing up GTA V doesn't really add to your case considering GTA V was a bust, at least I thought so. TLOU still has it beat by miles. I was bored of GTA within a couple of days.

Thought I was the only one. It's been sitting on my shelf but I sure as hell am not itching to keep playing GTA V. If that game wins GOTY over The Last of Us, heads will roll.

 

[Snake Plissken]

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Thought I was the only one. It's been sitting on my shelf but I sure as hell am not itching to keep playing GTA V. If that game wins GOTY over The Last of Us, heads will roll.

It's a big jerk off fest in the GTA thread, but damn what a lackluster game. I never thought I'd get bored of a GTA so damn fast. TLOU is leaps and bounds beyond it, and had hours and upon hours of replay value and plus the awesome online.

Beyond Two Souls will be the last deciding factor if TLOU gets GOTY for me.









I can't believe I wasted a weeks vacation on V... still it was nice to sleep in and I needed it

 

[Snake Plissken]

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Took two shots last night of Joel with his new bow on my shelf.

 

[ToastedFred]

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Completely irrelevant, but I feel the obligation.

**** yeah, Max Payne! Awesome.

 

[Snake Plissken]

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That's my first custom and I love him dearly

Max Payne 3 has become one of my favorite all time games, I actually like it better than the first two and I started with them

 

[ToastedFred]

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Max Payne 2 is my favourite of the trilogy, the story and the dialogue especially are so amazing in my opinion. I really liked the 3rd though, and I thought the change in style worked really well. I've only got 1 more single player trophy to get on it as well (NYMinute Hardcore). I think I've missed my chance with the multiplayer ones, I'm only level 21 and need to get to 50 still.

 

[Snake Plissken]

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I hated playing MP a week in after it came out and people were already maxed out >_>

I think MP2 was the most noir of the trilogy.

I also think Health did a FANTASTIC job with the soundtrack.