The Mandalorian (Star Wars Live Action Series)

[a-dev]

Well, we're talking about a space station that destroyed Alderaan (murdering probably a couple of billion people in the process) and was about to destroy the Yavin 4 moon where the Rebel base was located. So relatively speaking not quite as many voices suddenly crying out in terror before they were suddenly silenced. Besides, he wasn't a Jedi yet, so no Jedi code was violated.

Well the point is, living being or not, if you're on the wrong side he'll kill you. And he was personally slicing and dicing Jabba's goons at the battle of carkoon - even though it looked more like he was just batting them off the skiffs....is there a 'non-lethal' setting for the blade of a lightsaber?

 

[Khev]

Glad to see that Hasbro is re-releasing the TVC Slave I. Time for me to finally pull the trigger on that one. A much more iconic ship than the RC and less than half the price.

 

[jye4ever]

????????

Isn't it just 1 year from 2020 to 2021 lol

 

[Khev]

Well the point is, living being or not, if you're on the wrong side he'll kill you. And he was personally slicing and dicing Jabba's goons at the battle of carkoon - even though it looked more like he was just batting them off the skiffs....is there a 'non-lethal' setting for the blade of a lightsaber?

Yep.

Ahsoka did the same thing when she used her lightsaber to knock Michael Biehn's shotgun out of his hand without damaging either him or his weapon, lol.

 

[jye4ever]

She cut a bell in half but I think the guy next to it got the same thing lol

 

[Sassafras]

Comes back to thread to see if it's gotten back on the Mandalorian topic...

On the other hand - since I've had to backtrack through SW lore and history, appreciate the fans who've really been there.
Also they are veritable fountain of specific detail, which is useful if you are collector.



Finally, while I may skip rewatching the Ahsoka commercial, because for *&&^% sake she could have just sent the spear by UPS and the WTF script (at least I knew who Thrawn was, not sure name-dropping worked on a lot of the audience) -

seems like there's a lot of fan happiness. A good thing.

Some of the stuff I read during TLJ was so outraged felt like my laptop was gonna explode from the Force of it.

And I got Mando doing some whoop @ss with that spear, so I'm good as long as I don't think about the Razor Crest.

 

[ajp4mgs]

Well, we're talking about a space station that destroyed Alderaan (murdering probably a couple of billion people in the process) and was about to destroy the Yavin 4 moon where the Rebel base was located. So relatively speaking not quite as many voices suddenly crying out in terror before they were suddenly silenced. Besides, he wasn't a Jedi yet, so no Jedi code was violated.

Every time the Empire builds a killing machine and places living beings inside it, there's a sacrifice of life that needs to be made one way or the other. If star destroyers (like those in TROS) posed that kind of threat to innocent beings, then blowing those up would still allow a true Jedi to act in the name of defense. There's no real practical way around it.

I think destroying the Death Star is still very much an act of defense to save countless lives, even if Luke *had been* a Jedi when he blew it up. But in ROTJ, he was willing to *be* blown up with DS2, rather than murder bad guys and flee.

Well the point is, living being or not, if you're on the wrong side he'll kill you. And he was personally slicing and dicing Jabba's goons at the battle of carkoon - even though it looked more like he was just batting them off the skiffs....is there a 'non-lethal' setting for the blade of a lightsaber?

Luke can kill living beings, even after his moment of ascendancy in ROTJ. But if he does it, there needs to be a sense that he has no other choice. It shouldn't be just "if you're on the wrong side he'll kill you." Or do you actually believe that Luke post-ROTJ throne room scene would be running around killing everyone on the wrong side?

To me, it would need to be a scenario consistent with Yoda's teaching about "only for defense, never attack," and where he can't use the Force to resolve the threat in a non-lethal way. Otherwise, what was it he learned? What would be the purpose of tossing his saber and not killing Palpatine when he was convinced the Rebels weren't going to succeed?

His moments of violence on DS2 came when his emotions were stoked and he felt desperate to save people (Palpatine taunting "strike me down" and Vader taunting "perhaps she will"). Those examples are the essence of "fear is the path to the dark side." A Jedi will always be tempted to act that way and give in to fear, but a true Jedi can overcome the fear and not give in. That's why Luke only became a true Jedi when he made the choice he made at the end of ROTJ. Don't know how GL's intent there can be anything but clear.

 

[TurdFurgusonsHat]

Glad to see that Hasbro is re-releasing the TVC Slave I. Time for me to finally pull the trigger on that one. A much more iconic ship than the RC and less than half the price.

Lol sour grapes. And less than half the ship.

 

[The Buffinator]

Yep.

Ahsoka did the same thing when she used her lightsaber to knock Michael Biehn's shotgun out of his hand without damaging either him or his weapon, lol.

Yeah with a shotgun or someone's armor I can see it maybe happening IF the metal is sufficiently dense. Just like when Qui-Gon used his lightsaber to cut through blast doors; it took some time - he didn't slice through them like Swiss cheese. So with some materials getting hit with a lightsaber might be akin to getting whacked with a broadsword.

So I guess the bell that Ahsoka sliced through WAS made of Swiss cheese lol...

 

[Cap'n Cook]

I?m not crying...you?re crying.

 

[Sassafras]

So ****ing bummed we have to wait 2 years for Mando's return.

What? Last I read Mando drops Dec 25. Yeah, I am *&^% about the delay from an October drop; but wouldn't be surprised if Boba series leads into it. Like maybe Boba and Cobb Vanth get into it and Mando shows up for - whatever.

Or Din D'jarin decides to hang with Bo-katan while the awkwardness of the Darksaber gets hammered out, and they recruit Boba and Fennec for some particularly difficult job of rooting out Imperial scum still hanging around Mandalore.

It's gonna be a long wait anyway.

 

[NAZGUL-KING]

Glad to see that Hasbro is re-releasing the TVC Slave I. Time for me to finally pull the trigger on that one. A much more iconic ship than the RC and less than half the price.

I have the RC bought and paid for and to be honest, once Fett came back (with Slave 1 more bada$$ than ever before) and the 'Crest was destroyed I lost a lot of interest in it. I have the VC Slave 1, which is great and has always been my favorite SW ship (with the Falcon a close second), so I'll probably sell the RC once I get it.

I waited too long on the Black Series Fett helmet because I opted to get the Slave 1 first, so I'm glad that it's up for order again as well. Now I have to decide if I want the classic helmet or repainted one (no price at BBTS yet). I'll most likely opt for the classic one.

 

[Vortex]

What? Last I read Mando drops Dec 25. Yeah, I am *&^% about the delay from an October drop; but wouldn't be surprised if Boba series leads into it. Like maybe Boba and Cobb Vanth get into it and Mando shows up for - whatever.

Or Din D'jarin decides to hang with Bo-katan while the awkwardness of the Darksaber gets hammered out, and they recruit Boba and Fennec for some particularly difficult job of rooting out Imperial scum still hanging around Mandalore.

It's gonna be a long wait anyway.

It's all a bit cloudy right now but at the very least Mando won't be returning to at least early 2022 after Fett. It's currently in pre-production meaning the stories are just now being written. Fett is in production.

This is if COVID doesn't throw a wrench in everything of coarse.

 

[Sassafras]

Deepfake looks better.


Ya know what takes me out of the scene more then the CGI.. The cold quick delivery of the lines.

Are you a jedi?

"I am"

"Come Little one"

etc..


Along with the CGI and the voice it kind of felt like Luke was not there... Like they were pulling a "Dead man Don't Wear Plaid" move on us (Anyone remember that one ) and they spliced Luke's lines in from another film...


I dont know it just could have been more natural..


Of course there is nothing natural about a CGI Luke but you know what I mean.

I think they were trying for the somewhat older, after the war, seen the death of millions and the suffering, mystical Jedi thing. Like in the PT where everyone sounds pompous. So, IMO, it fits, 'coz at that point in time I guess Luke is the most powerful Force user in the galaxy - that's a lot to carry.

Am gonna ignore Palps was still around floating in a jar or whatever - like his minions used a Dyson vacuum with the special HEPA filter to suck his microbits from space. Someone needs to do a parody where Grogu gets curious, opens the jar, sneezes, and then the whole ST can get rebooted.

 

[The Buffinator]

So ****ing bummed we have to wait 2 years for Mando's return.

What? Last I read Mando drops Dec 25. Yeah, I am *&^% about the delay from an October drop; but wouldn't be surprised if Boba series leads into it. Like maybe Boba and Cobb Vanth get into it and Mando shows up for - whatever.

Or Din D'jarin decides to hang with Bo-katan while the awkwardness of the Darksaber gets hammered out, and they recruit Boba and Fennec for some particularly difficult job of rooting out Imperial scum still hanging around Mandalore.

It's gonna be a long wait anyway.

Straight from Favreau:

"We didn't want to spoil the surprise during the big Kathleen Kennedy announcement of all the shows [during Investor Day earlier this month], so they let me keep this one a secret, " Favreau says. "So this is actually separate from The Mandalorian season 3. But what we didn't say in that announcement is the next show coming up - what Kathy called 'the next chapter' - is going to be The Book of Boba Fett, and then we go into production right after that on The Mandalorian, back with the main character that we all know and love... pretty soon following that."

He doesn't specify exactly when Season 3 starts up. When I hear "...and then we go into production right after that on The Mandalorian", it sounds to me like it will be coming out later that Christmas 2021. He says Mando Season 3 will be out "pretty soon following that (The Book Of BF)". I'm guessing late 1st quarter 2022.

https://ew.com/tv/the-book-of-boba-fett-mandalorian-season-3/?did=592051-20201221&utm_campaign=ewk-tv_newsletter&utm_source=ew.com&utm_medium=email&utm_content=122120&cid=592051&mid=47218106608

 

[Sassafras]

It's all a bit cloudy right now but at the very least Mando won't be returning to at least early 2022 after Fett. It's currently in pre-production meaning the stories are just now being written. Fett is in production.

This is if COVID doesn't throw a wrench in everything of coarse.

https://www.polygon.com/22193147/when-the-mandalorian-season-3-comes-out

Shortly after the finale premiere, Jon Favreau took to Good Morning America to clarify, slightly, his Star Wars show rollout plans. According to the interview, The Book of Boba Fett will debut in December of 2021 (Favreau slipped saying ?Christmas,? then backtracked to the more general month window), and after the premiere, his crew will begin work on The Mandalorian season 3 ?back with the main character that we?ve known and loved.? There was no specific date for the release, but Favreau emphasized that it would come soon after The Book of Boba Fett, which could mean a late premiere that bridges 2021 and 2022 or an earlier 2022 release, similar to Marvel?s upcoming WandaVision, which premieres this January. Favreau also adds that Dave Filoni is currently working on Ahsoka.

Well, for me this is &^%$. *&^%$#.

When will I learn - never, ever, trust. Especially with KK/Disney wanting some milking. BLUE milk, and lots of it.

Wow, what a surprise, Filoni is handling Ahsoka. Never saw that coming.

 

[ZE_501]

Like Agent Smith, a thousand Jar Jar's suddenly appear in ironwez's house.[...]

That's a horrifying curse. On the other hand it's an opportunity for one thousand revenge killings.

(Of the CHARACTER not the poor actor!)

Lol, opinions are opinions but some are just bad.

Mysteriously so.

I'm happy I stuck with it too because Han, Luke and Leia arcs had tremendously rewarding and satisfying closures
[...]

There was ... definitely an arc. Misery, failure and defeat before dying. They each died selflessly like heroes while Disney was disposing of them, which I guess is enough for some fans.

Han Solo

• Begins as a criminal drug runner on the run from the Mob
• Finds a conscience, joins the revolution, marries a princess
• Failed marriage
• Life of crime and swindling running from gangs
• Lost son to Dark Side who goes full Genocidal Fascist
• Murdered by own son

Leia Organa

• Captured and tortured for being a revolutionary, watches her planet get vaporized
• Survives a catastrophic war and installs a new government
• Failed marriage
• Ridiculed and marginalized by the new government she fought and sacrificed to put in power
• Her victory against the genocidal Empire that snuffed out her entire world right in front of her just to make a point, rendered hollow by Starkiller base wiping out FIVE planets and ramping up their new reign of terror, ripping apart her Resistance and killing her friends
• Also lost son to Dark Side who goes full Genocidal Fascist in the very regime that killed the aforementioned 5 planets
• Dies to bring the murdering **** back to the light

Luke Skywalker

• The simple life interrupted by getting swept up in the revolution
• Finds his family's charred corpses
• Sees and hears his best friend die in combat
• Kills *a lot* of people
• Fights a revolutionary war and has more comrades die violently
• Finds out he's being manipulated by Jedi operatives to assassinate ...
• ...the Genocidal Fascist who is also by the way his father who maims him
• Nearly loses himself to the Dark Side
• Helps win the revolution while being instrumental in the death of his father but really, they didn't have much of a relationship
• Tries to bring back the Jedi
• Gets Really Bad Vibes and gets ready to execute/murder his nephew and best friend's son
• His nephew does not dig it and murders all his students which he apparently couldn't prevent
• Hides and rots with guilt
• His friends fight the new threat without him and die along with 5 planets worth of people
• Finally decides he'd better join the fight (after billions have died including his best friend, murdered by his own son and Luke's student)
• Succeeds in saving the tattered remnants of the Resistance
• Promptly dies from the effort

If this is what some people find as satisfying arcs, I don't know what to say but good for you. Those who agree with me, don't need me to elaborate. Those who disagree, I won't try to change your mind. I don't think I can.

 

[pixletwin]

Well when you put it like that...

 

[ZE_501]

He too will one day go the way Lucas did.... the wrong way.

Enjoy what you have right now.

Wor-Gar is wise.

Even if he does go off the rails before he calls it quits Favreau will still rank among the best of the best, on the same tier as Spielberg, Lucas, etc. The dude made Iron Man, The Mandalorian, and Elf(mic drop). Over the last 15-20 years it doesn't get much more classic and timeless than that. The wild success of his projects along with his versatility are quite impressive.

His storytelling is exceptional, but I might rank his visual style beneath Spielberg (first place) and Lucas ... there are some beautiful shots in Iron Man and The Mando Show, but nothing stands out quite the same way.

Thing about Favreau is he strikes me as a guy who knows the Hollywood game inside out, and makes exceptional products within that foul machinery. Which means that when the machinery demands something else -- something we really won't like -- he's gonna crank it out and spin it the same way he spins the products we *do* happen to like. He's a politician and they're not to be trusted.

Well, we're talking about a space station that destroyed Alderaan (murdering probably a couple of billion people in the process) and was about to destroy the Yavin 4 moon where the Rebel base was located. So relatively speaking not quite as many voices suddenly crying out in terror before they were suddenly silenced. Besides, he wasn't a Jedi yet, so no Jedi code was violated.

He's a stone-cold killer from the word go. Canon and EU sources are kinda all over the place, but most recently in Mando that Imperial Remnant pilot mentioned there were *millions* of people on the Death Star.

 

[ZE_501]

Well when you put it like that...

I've like, totally spoken yo.