The Marvels

guyver1 · Nov 1, 2023

I have a feeling this will be the end of one of them or end of a era

jye4ever · Nov 1, 2023

I feel like teen spirit.

jye4ever · Nov 1, 2023

Look

Yes Marvel and DC are a mess.

Yes Disney and WB are a mess.

But Scorsese can go to hell.

I grew up with Superheroes on wires in front of rear projection screens so I celebrate and cherish my modern technology MCU Phase 1-3 and ZS DC.

I never experienced a Scorsese movie delivering the theatrical emotions that IW and EG delivered.

Scorsese directed The Irishman, go to hell fool lol

a-dev · Nov 1, 2023

Scorsese was complaining about Superhero overload when the movies were still good. I didn't agree with him then. I'm willing to admit they're outstaying their welcome now though.

Zurdo95D · Nov 1, 2023

a-dev said:
Scorsese was complaining about Superhero overload when the movies were still good. I didn't agree with him then. I'm willing to admit they're outstaying their welcome now though.

I think this video (and the Creator) has some good/valid insight.

I wasn't aware Scorsese's earlier films weren't financial successes. I've only seen some of his most prominent films and I have to say they oozed quality and vision.

choombaz · Nov 2, 2023

The director of Taxi Driver and Goodfellas is ok in my book even if he can be a bit of a movie snob at times.

jye4ever · Nov 2, 2023

Taxi Driver overrated

Never watched GF I hate mafia movies, ZzzZzz

a-dev · Nov 2, 2023

jye4ever said:
Taxi Driver overrated

Never watched GF I hate mafia movies, ZzzZzz

Taxi Driver didn't do much for me but I only watched it once maybe 10 years ago.

Goodfellas is a 10/10. I don't identify in any way with Mafia life, I don't see how it can possibly be worth it, but it's a brilliant film.

I love Gangs of New York, The Aviator, The Wolf of Wall Street. The Color of Money (didn't know that was Scorsese) and Casino are good. I even liked The Irishman. I was a bit meh on The Departed. Maybe I need to revisit it.

I actually haven't seen much else from his filmography.

jye4ever · Nov 2, 2023

a-dev said:
Taxi Driver didn't do much for me but I only watched it once maybe 10 years ago.

Goodfellas is a 10/10. I don't identify in any way with Mafia life, I don't see how it can possibly be worth it, but it's a brilliant film.

I love Gangs of New York, The Aviator, The Wolf of Wall Street. The Color of Money (didn't know that was Scorsese) and Casino are good. I even liked The Irishman. I was a bit meh on The Departed. Maybe I need to revisit it.

I actually haven't seen much else from his filmography.

I will rewatch MCU phase 1-3 way more than any of those Scorsese movies.

choombaz · Nov 2, 2023

I love Taxi Driver. Call me a demented fool but the acting, the music, the absolute cesspool of humanity wallowing in doubt, guilt is incredible. I saw it at a very impressionable age and was obsessed with makeup effects at the time so was hugely keen on **** Smith’s makeup effects.

And yes, Casino is a retread of GF but I love it. I even love films like Kundun, King Of Comedy, Age Of Innocence, Cape Fear, After Hours which just don’t get talked about much. Film nerd alert.

The Buffinator · Nov 2, 2023

jye4ever said:
I will rewatch MCU phase 1-3 way more than any of those Scorsese movies.

I don't think I've bothered watching one of his movies since The Aviator. And I was going to say that the only one I've ever really liked was Heat, but that was Michael Mann lol...

MeatHookGekko · Nov 2, 2023

choombaz said:
I love Taxi Driver.

This is the scene that sold Taxi Driver to me years and years ago. It's not one of the "iconic" scenes in the films that everyone talks about. But it showed Travis wanted to fit in, wanted to be a good person, he just needed help and didn't know how.

I can only speak for myself, but I find that that those who have grew up around those on the spectrum, this movie just rings a bit differently. Same thing for Wes Chatham/Amos Burton from The Expanse. That character just resonates deeper with those who have been around more functional autism. ( Not implying you of course)

A film I thought carried some of the core themes of Taxi Driver was, bizarrely enough, The Homesman. There's a scene where Hilary Swank is talking to an old shopkeeper in town, and he points out that "no one ever talks about crazy", that people just stare in silence, because it makes them uncomfortable.

My take on Taxi Driver, and the dubious aspect of mental health in films, is that we are all biologically hardwired to survive and reproduce. And those who show signs of mental health struggles, that's an instinctive red flag. That many don't want them in their bloodline, not in their family, not in their communities. It's why Travis was outcast. And it seeps a bit into why Hilary Swank and Tommy Lee Jones were also functionally isolated in The Homesman.

Sometimes I think that's the worst kind of human tragedy. Someone who doesn't want to be broken anymore, but they don't know how to ask for help and they don't even know what questions to ask. And they don't encompass the kind of social status or social "value" that will incentivize someone else, anyone else, to bother to care. Just some thoughts.

choombaz · Nov 2, 2023

MeatHookGekko said:
This is the scene that sold Taxi Driver to me years and years ago. It's not one of the "iconic" scenes in the films that everyone talks about. But it showed Travis wanted to fit in, wanted to be a good person, he just needed help and didn't know how.

I can only speak for myself, but I find that that those who have grew up around those on the spectrum, this movie just rings a bit differently. Same thing for Wes Chatham/Amos Burton from The Expanse. That character just resonates deeper with those who have been around more functional autism. ( Not implying you of course)

A film I thought carried some of the core themes of Taxi Driver was, bizarrely enough, The Homesman. There's a scene where Hilary Swank is talking to an old shopkeeper in town, and he points out that "no one ever talks about crazy", that people just stare in silence, because it makes them uncomfortable.

My take on Taxi Driver, and the dubious aspect of mental health in films, is that we are all biologically hardwired to survive and reproduce. And those who show signs of mental health struggles, that's an instinctive red flag. That many don't want them in their bloodline, not in their family, not in their communities. It's why Travis was outcast. And it seeps a bit into why Hilary Swank and Tommy Lee Jones were also functionally isolated in The Homesman.

Sometimes I think that's the worst kind of human tragedy. Someone who doesn't want to be broken anymore, but they don't know how to ask for help and they don't even know what questions to ask. And they don't encompass the kind of social status or social "value" that will incentivize someone else, anyone else, to bother to care. Just some thoughts.

Yep you are right. I can relate to Travis (but only just a little thank god).

“One of these days I’m going to get organisised”

“You remind me of that Kris Kristofferson song. He’s a prophet and a pusher. Part fiction part truth.”

I didn’t watch the clip went from memory so I’ve probably mangled that quote a bit.

Zurdo95D · Nov 3, 2023

From Scorsese's films I've seen: Taxi Driver, Goodfellas, Casino, and Shutter Island. I still have other films on my to-watch list but I quite liked those that I saw.

screamingmetal · Nov 4, 2023

jye4ever said:
Taxi Driver overrated

Never watched GF I hate mafia movies, ZzzZzz

I don't like mafia movies either but Goodfellas is good, of that genre it's my favorite. It's more energetic than a lot of the slower mafia movies.
If you consider Gangs of New York a gangster movie, it would be my favorite (just picked up the blu ray a couple of weeks ago).
As far as Scorsese's opinion of big budget and formerly big profit Superhero movies, it would hold more water if he financed all his films, himself.