The Marvels

[jye4ever]

The internet/youtube response to Brie Larson continues to be out of all proportion to her 'crimes' such that I'm embarrassed at having participated in it back when Captain Marvel came out and her feminist clips were doing the rounds.

Gangs in the 5 boroughs get less attention by the justice system than Brie has received.

 

[ironwez20]

Spider-Man is my favourite superheros and one of my favourite things of all time but I can’t stand Tom Hollands Spider-Man.

It’s funny cause Garfield is the best Peter but his movies suck hot ass. Tobey is great as Peter and Spider-Man and is timeless but can leave much to be desired in terms of Spider-Man. Holland is ok and is a Spider-Man in a Marvel universe which is a must but he is very far removed from what spiderman should be in terms of supporting cast and the things he goes through. Hell I think his best portrayal of the character was in civil war hands down . Russos did an amazing job with Spider-Man

 

[ironwez20]

The internet/youtube response to Brie Larson continues to be out of all proportion to her 'crimes' such that I'm embarrassed at having participated in it back when Captain Marvel came out and her feminist clips were doing the rounds.

Yea there was this time when people were pushing her to be the face of marvel and dudes were scared she was gonna defeat thanos. I never cared about the cap marvel film or character but it upsets so many people. Just freaking ignore it. It’s easy. I hate Steven universe and I ignore it. I hate the Snyder verse and yes I debate with some here but I ignore it most of the time. People let these characters and movies control their life it’s sad. I understand not liking a movie. But to constantly cry about how it’s a woman movie and muh woke is annoying. She’s not even as big as she was when endgame was bout to come out. I barely hear about Brie Larson.

The only thing Brie Larson does is occasionally talk on the toy forum under the guise of zurdo. They pretend we don’t know who it is but it’s obvious

 

[MeatHookGekko]

The internet/youtube response to Brie Larson continues to be out of all proportion to her 'crimes' such that I'm embarrassed at having participated in it back when Captain Marvel came out and her feminist clips were doing the rounds.

That's a fair perspective. But here is a different one as well....

I did not collect Hot Toys The Dark Knight. Nor Hot Toys Iron Man.

But I was happy for collectors who did, because the massive popularity of the lines meant they also got the more arcane type figure releases. Alfred, Commissioner Gordon, Blake, etc, etc. Iron Man got many of the lesser core armors made. I did collect Hot Toys Predators back in the day, and it was an insanely popular line. So popular that we got three Lost Predators, two were SDCC exclusives, plus we got a concept art Samurai Predator that was awesome.

When the MCU is successful, very popular and raking in big money, it opens up the chance for the more arcane characters and storylines to get a chance. ( Consider Agents of SHIELD, which netted all Ghost Rider fans an actual new Ghost Rider HT figure) When the MCU is failing, losing fans and losing money, those opportunities dwindle. Are some here really interested in seeing an X Force film? How about a story about the Nova Corps? Captain Britain? What about World War Hulk? The potential there fades with each box office bomb.

I love the first Guardians Of The Galaxy. I also love Thor Ragnarok. And The Punisher tv series with Bernthal. None of that would have happened without the legacy success of Iron Man 1, Captain America TFA, etc, etc. If Phase One carried bomb after bomb like Phase Four, then would we have gotten GOTG1?

The Marvels, from a projection standpoint, is probably going to lose money when it's all said and done. When that happens, it's another nail in the coffin from a future series or film you might actually want to see and hope to get some cool HT 1/6th figures made.

The rise of the DCEU and the investment in it came from copying the success of the MCU. When the MCU fails, it also highlights the risk for DC stuff too. Their DCEU is already in shambles. That also reduces the chance to extend into other stories and characters you might want to see. What about a Batman Brave And The Bold story? Maybe Swamp Thing. Those kind of things die on the vine when total chaos happens.

The failures of Larson, Captain Marvel and possibly The Marvels is also about the future MCU as well.

I don't hate Brie Larson. But I won't deny that this part of the MCU has a clear Brie Larson problem. She's the title character, so this all falls on her shoulders, fair or not. This is part of the deal with being a hopeful movie star.

 

[Otomofan]

I hate Steven universe and I ignore it.

I've never seen an episode of Steven Universe but I hate it, too. Just more of that ugly Cal-Arts style garbage. I will continue to ignore it.

 

[ironwez20]

I've never seen an episode of Steven Universe but I hate it, too. Just more of that ugly Cal-Arts style garbage. I will continue to ignore it.

I hate it cause it’s so soft and annoying. Pretty much a show that reflects the world we live in today

 

[The Buffinator]

That's a fair perspective. But here is a different one as well....

I did not collect Hot Toys The Dark Knight. Nor Hot Toys Iron Man.

But I was happy for collectors who did, because the massive popularity of the lines meant they also got the more arcane type figure releases. Alfred, Commissioner Gordon, Blake, etc, etc. Iron Man got many of the lesser core armors made. I did collect Hot Toys Predators back in the day, and it was an insanely popular line. So popular that we got three Lost Predators, two were SDCC exclusives, plus we got a concept art Samurai Predator that was awesome.

When the MCU is successful, very popular and raking in big money, it opens up the chance for the more arcane characters and storylines to get a chance. ( Consider Agents of SHIELD, which netted all Ghost Rider fans an actual new Ghost Rider HT figure) When the MCU is failing, losing fans and losing money, those opportunities dwindle. Are some here really interested in seeing an X Force film? How about a story about the Nova Corps? Captain Britain? What about World War Hulk? The potential there fades with each box office bomb.

I love the first Guardians Of The Galaxy. I also love Thor Ragnarok. And The Punisher tv series with Bernthal. None of that would have happened without the legacy success of Iron Man 1, Captain America TFA, etc, etc. If Phase One carried bomb after bomb like Phase Four, then would we have gotten GOTG1?

The Marvels, from a projection standpoint, is probably going to lose money when it's all said and done. When that happens, it's another nail in the coffin from a future series or film you might actually want to see and hope to get some cool HT 1/6th figures made.

The rise of the DCEU and the investment in it came from copying the success of the MCU. When the MCU fails, it also highlights the risk for DC stuff too. Their DCEU is already in shambles. That also reduces the chance to extend into other stories and characters you might want to see. What about a Batman Brave And The Bold story? Maybe Swamp Thing. Those kind of things die on the vine when total chaos happens.

The failures of Larson, Captain Marvel and possibly The Marvels is also about the future MCU as well.

I don't hate Brie Larson. But I won't deny that this part of the MCU has a clear Brie Larson problem. She's the title character, so this all falls on her shoulders, fair or not. This is part of the deal with being a hopeful movie star.

As others have pointed out, the Captain Marvel movie (and Larson by extension) didn't fail, and labeling The Marvels a failure 7 months before its release is rather premature. And not matching her first outing's box office won't make it a failure, as only Spider-Man has reached those numbers post-Endgame. It may be clear to you that the MCU has a Brie Larson problem, but last I checked she had nothing to do with some of their poorer efforts like Eternals and Thor: Love & Thunder. Larson wasn't my first choice for Captain Marvel but she's a decent actress and if they provide a good story/script I don't see her being a "problem" at all.

 

[Zurdo95D]

AWFULLY happy for Zurdo though.

FIXED!!!

SKIMNHJSWYBXCML!MAPLMJHUYzhU GAAAAAAHHHhHhHHHhHhH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I’M SUPER STOKED FOR THIS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[Zurdo95D]

I hope Zurdo really loves it.

[…]

OOOOOHHHHHH you best bet I’m gonna enjoy this!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[Zurdo95D]

This says it all

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The only thing Brie Larson does is occasionally talk on the toy forum under the guise of zurdo. They pretend we don’t know who it is but it’s obvious

 

[Zurdo95D]

She was good in Scott Pilgrim and that’s the only role I’ve ever liked of hers.

 

[Zurdo95D]

[…]

What's not to love.... […]

I really hope Queen Studioes makes a new Captain Marvel bust or statue!!!!!! I’d order it in less than a heartbeat!!!!!!!!

 

[Zurdo95D]

The Ms Marvel comics are one of the few modern Marvel series I actually liked. I think it is about the only one that had a reasonable explanation for this younger hero to take on a retired name too.

I also liked her series. I don’t mind that they seem to want to ignore Inhumans in the MCU in favor for mutants. I liked how they tied her power set into her heritage. But getting rid of the embiggen for another energy user to shoe horn her into this story was a terrible choice.

I also liked watching the slow development of Spectrum. I think they need to use this model for more heroes. It makes sense that normal people having to deal with freaky stuff rubs off on them.

But this trailer smacks of some executives believing that none of these characters can carry stories on their own, so they hope shoving them together will be enough of a draw.

Captain Marvel 2 should have always been a dark film with Captain Marvel getting her ass handed to her by Rogue. This is one of the better plot lines for mutants crossing paths with other heroes. It couldn’t have been previously explored in film or tv due to the character rights divided between studios. But I guess Feige still doesn’t want to get to the X-men yet and wants to drag out whatever the hell they think they’re doing. They could be trying to save that plot of a CM3, but the MCU might not exist by that point.

I agree! We need Marvel Studios to hire @ZE_501 so we can have a great, dark & gritty Captain Marvel 3

But of course, I’d have liked a ‘darker‘ Captain Marvel film continuing on from the first.

 

[Sweet Rabbit]

I don’t know why they’re hyping up the little girl Ms. Marvel, they’re killing her off in the comics

 

[Otomofan]

Yeah, cause "death" is always permanent in comics.

 

[Garlador]

Yeah, cause "death" is always permanent in comics.

Yeah, that little stunt in the comics? They’ll resurrect her with her MCU powers right before the movie and a shiny new #1 relaunch for maximum corporate synergy. We know the score.

 

[Zurdo95D]

Yeah, cause "death" is always permanent in comics.

Except Uncle Ben?

 

[Otomofan]

Uncle Ben has "stayed" dead, but I'm sure even he's been brought back a few times over the years.

I love how every decade or so, they pretend that the "shocking" death is so groundbreaking and revolutionary, but they just did it a few years ago. "Death of Captain America!!!!" Yeah, he was also dead for a while in the late 90s.

"Death of Robin!!!!" I guess they forgot that the vast majority of us were alive and reading comics in the late 80s.

For the longest time, the only character that was truly dead was Bucky, and look how that turned out.

When the writers brought back characters like Bucky, Jason Todd, Barry Allen....I finally had enough of American comic books.

 

[Zurdo95D]

[…] Ms. Marvel, they’re killing her off in the comics

Spoiler

 

[Zurdo95D]