The Official "The Hobbit: An Unexpected Journey" movie thread *SPOILERS*

[The Josh]

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Oh I didn't hate it as it was, but it did raise a question in my mind. Plus showing the Balrog would have tied things into LOTR nicely like the stone trolls for example.

I understand. I guess. Like I said I think Balin clears that up but maybe for me knowing all that I know it made it easier. Showing the Balrog would have just been awesome. As far as the Trolls you had to have them in the book as its actually part of the books.

Was Legolas in the movie?

Nope but his Daddy was.

 

[CelticPredator]

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[ame]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4QAlt4Sfl7Q[/ame]

Everytime. I laugh.

 

[batfan08]

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4QAlt4Sfl7Q

Everytime. I laugh.

What did I just watch?

 

[Sachiel]

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I hate the high frame rate. It's distracting and feels cheap. Took me about 20+ minutes to "get used to it", but I was still easily taken out many times during the movie.

Picture quality certainly looked great. It was very crisp and clear. But the movement is very quick. During the fast, action scenes it comes off very exaggerated and comical (you could fit Benny Hill music to it perfectly).

The CGI looked great for the trolls, goblins, Gollum, and Azog and worked very well at the higher framerate, but sometimes it felt like I was watching a video game cutscene. The 3D was excellent. The HFR helps because of less stuttering.

I enjoyed the movie, but there were parts that dragged.

 

[Maglor]

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Just got back.


Initial thoughts:


Loved the movie. The story greatly exceeded my expectations.

I thought it would bother me that the were giving Gollum the split personality again, but I thought it totally worked. Gollum was the creature he became in order to survive (i.e. eat anything that moved). Smegol is the part of him that still likes riddles and games, and remembers sunshine. That totally works with how he's written in the book. Even though he shouldn't really start up with literally arguing with himself until the trek to Mordor, I really don't mind it.

There were a few parts that made me roll my eyes:

Spoiler

1) Gandalf's scary voice trick in Bag End.

2) The ring flying through the air and falling on Bilbo's finger.

3) Gandalf whispering to the moth.

All three of those were obvious parallels to scenes in LOTR. In my opinion, way to obvious. I forgive my third thing there because it is kind of needed as a plot device.


Little things that were changed here and there didn't bother me much, although I have a lot to say about the Necromancer and where they are going with that...


The HFR? Far worse than I was imagining. Huge mistake.

Can't wait to see it again in 24fps, and no 3D.

 

[OSCORP]

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Score out of 10?

 

[intothevoid]

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Yeah, I knew you'd hate the HFR. It was definitely worse than I feared

 

[Cocoboloboy]

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I gave this a 5/10.

I just didn't feel any connection to Bilbo. To me he was lifeless and I ended up not caring about his character at all. And those roll your eyes moments that Mags mentioned? Yeah, they were bad.

Overall I felt it was just trying too hard to ride on the coat tails of the LOTR succes but without the look and feel of that trilogy. Gollum was amazing though.

 

[IrishJedi]

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I warned you all about HFR.

It's indeed that bad.

 

[intothevoid]

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I warned you all about HFR.

It's indeed that bad.

You should see what I posted in the HFR thread

 

[IrishJedi]

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I just noticed the movie has dropped to 66% overall on Rotten Tomatoes, and 42% among "Top Critics". I knew this wouldn't get nearly the acclaim of the LOTR films, but I wasn't expecting that. That seems too low.

 

[The Ween]

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I just noticed the movie has dropped to 66% overall on Rotten Tomatoes, and 42% among "Top Critics". I knew this wouldn't get nearly the acclaim of the LOTR films, but I wasn't expecting that.

But it gets an 81% approval with audiences.

 

[IrishJedi]

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But it gets an 81% approval with audiences.

Yeah, but even that is pretty low relatively. All movies skew higher with audiences, and the LOTR films were much higher than 81% there. They were adored by critics and audiences alike. PJ appears to be off on the wrong furry foot with this one.

I still have high, high hopes for the next 2, though. Especially the next one.

 

[CelticPredator]

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This was a lot more fun then LOTR.

 

[The Josh]

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I just noticed the movie has dropped to 66% overall on Rotten Tomatoes, and 42% among "Top Critics". I knew this wouldn't get nearly the acclaim of the LOTR films, but I wasn't expecting that. That seems too low.

Some of the critics if you go and read them are dumber than owl ****. They expected it to be just a complete redo of LOTR, don't like the genre, etc. I've read tons of the negative ones at this point just to see why and they all almost fall into that or they don't like the 48FPS. So once again RT shows its one of the biggest most worthless piece of crap movie sites on the net.

 

[The Josh]

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The Hobbit setting up for a good weekend

 

[The Ween]

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Yeah, but even that is pretty low relatively. All movies skew higher with audiences, and the LOTR films were much hugher than 81% with audiences. They were adored by critics and audiences alike.

But this isn't Lord of the Rings.

I can't remember how Fellowship did. I do know that the first time I viewed it, I wasn't super keen on it. I never read the books at that point. I had to see it again to appreciate it.

 

[IrishJedi]

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But this isn't Lord of the Rings.

I can't remember how Fellowship did. I do know that the first time I viewed it, I wasn't super keen on it. I never read the books at that point. I had to see it again to appreciate it.

The problem is this film is just too bloated for mainstream audiences. I think it would have been much better served (and would have been better received) with a Theatrical cut that is 20-30 minutes shorter.

 

[CelticPredator]

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Perhaps. But it's a "damned if you and damned if you don't" situation.

Harry Potter's flicks work somewhat, but fans of the book complained about important parts being left out. And while I still think it's a beyond idiotic desision to make a 300 page book into 3, 3 hour movies, I also know that if they didn't, people would complain about the lack of "tiny little side detail that doesn't matter in the overall plot" being ommited.

But then it ends up being too damn long, and boring in spots.


There is no winning. Maybe Jackson should just make the next two flicks 2 hours long each. Keep em nice and short. Keep them nice and tight. Tell the fans to screw off, and just go with your gut on what will make the story work.

And never ever film anything in 48fps ever again.

 

[intothevoid]

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I also think apart from being bloated, the trailers at least for me gave it a very LOTR tone. I suspect a large proportion of the audience and reviewers would have gone in expecting something a lot closer to those films

The film though is quite different of course and I was prepared for that by reading this thread