The Sandman - Netflix Series

[Otomofan]

Does Gaiman have any official say in anything in regards to ownership? I thought DC owned the character and all the rights.

 

[Sassafras]

Does Gaiman have any official say in anything in regards to ownership? I thought DC owned the character and all the rights.

I'm not sure how all this works. In articles Gaiman described "shopping" the series and went with Netflix, because Netflix was willing to fund 11 initial episodes vs. 10.

In a recent Tweet (), he answered a fan that the series could be moved to another network if Netflix doesn't pick it it up. So maybe it's something complicated where WB doesn't care, as long as they get their cut if a show is being produced.

 

[Sweet Rabbit]

I’m pretty sure Gaiman took DC to court over it

 

[Otomofan]

I think his lawsuit drama was with McFarlane over ownership of the Angela character and the Miracleman rights. Gaiman won.

Apparently DC still owns all of Sandman's characters and trademarks and licensing and all that, but they have a special deal with Gaiman that they don't do anything without his input or blessing. And Gaiman is obviously paid more handsomely than just about any other creator.

My guess is sometime in the 90s they realized what a phenomenon they had on their hands and they might have actually learned from their mistakes with Alan Moore.

I'm pretty sure that going forward, all (most?) of the properties published by Vertigo were creator-owned. (Transmetropolitan, Preacher, Invisibles, Y: The Last Man) but Sandman remained DC's property because Vertigo didn't even exist when Gaiman started writing Sandman. A lot of the characters are even old DC characters, such as Cain and Able, Destiny, Hector and Hypolyta Hall, Dr. Destiny, etc.) The connections to the DC universe were phased out as Sandman became a big hit.

Anyway...TL;DR....DC Comics owns Sandman 100% but they try to be "cool" about it and Gaiman doesn't complain publicly.

 

[chrisstbh]

Season 2 green lit.

 

[lordnastrond]

Season 2 green lit.

Fantastic news - providing Netflix doesn't pull a Witcher and hire writers who hate the source material and recast the lead.....
Seriously though this show was my favourite watch of the year and I hope it continues on its strong streak.

 

[davejames]

I haven't quite finished it yet, but it's a quality show so glad to hear it got a second season.

 

[Sweet Rabbit]

I’m still on episode 7

 

[Sassafras]

Season 2 green lit.

So much mediocre writing and production. And then there are stunning productions like Sandman. It 's almost like I can't assimilate a network made an intelligent decision LOL. Especially the cancel-happy Netflix.

 

[chrisstbh]

Cancelled. Season 2 will be the final season.

 

[Otomofan]

 

[MeatHookGekko]

Neil Gaiman Hit With Rape & Human Trafficking Suits After Months Of Allegations; Estranged Spouse Amanda Palmer Also Named In Multi-State Filings

"After months of horrific allegations of sexual misconduct, The Sandman creator Neil Gaiman has been taken to court in a trio of states on allegations of rape, human trafficking and more by a former New Zealand nanny of his and musician Amanda Palmer’s son. “This claim arises out of Defendant Neil Gaiman’s sexual abuse of Plaintiff, and his wife Amanda Palmer’s role in procuring and presenting Plaintiff to Gaiman for such abuse,” states a rape and human trafficking complaint filed in federal court Monday in Wisconsin by Scarlett Pavlovich. “Gaiman has a decades-long history of sexual misconduct consistent with the actions that will be described in the following paragraphs,” the 28-page nine claim action adds, with vivid detail including a sodomy rape of “slave” Pavlovich by Gaiman just three years ago.

Having said that, the no longer CAA-repped Gaiman recently has been dropped by his UK agent Casarotto Ramsay & Associates’ client list, as my colleague Jake Kanter exclusively reported last week. Additionally, Anansi Boys publisher Dark Horse Comics has dropped the once-acclaimed scribe, and a UK stage production of Coraline was canceled in the last days of January. As allegations against Gaiman grew, Season 3 of Amazon Prime Video‘s Good Omens was scaled back to a 90-minute episode and Disney paused production on its big screen adaptation of The Graveyard Book."

https://deadline.com/2025/02/neil-gaiman-rape-lawsuits-amanda-palmer-filings-1236277339/

 

[ZE_501]

Neil Gaiman Hit With Rape & Human Trafficking Suits After Months Of Allegations; Estranged Spouse Amanda Palmer Also Named In Multi-State Filings

"After months of horrific allegations of sexual misconduct, The Sandman creator Neil Gaiman has been taken to court in a trio of states on allegations of rape, human trafficking and more by a former New Zealand nanny of his and musician Amanda Palmer’s son. “This claim arises out of Defendant Neil Gaiman’s sexual abuse of Plaintiff, and his wife Amanda Palmer’s role in procuring and presenting Plaintiff to Gaiman for such abuse,” states a rape and human trafficking complaint filed in federal court Monday in Wisconsin by Scarlett Pavlovich. “Gaiman has a decades-long history of sexual misconduct consistent with the actions that will be described in the following paragraphs,” the 28-page nine claim action adds, with vivid detail including a sodomy rape of “slave” Pavlovich by Gaiman just three years ago.

Having said that, the no longer CAA-repped Gaiman recently has been dropped by his UK agent Casarotto Ramsay & Associates’ client list, as my colleague Jake Kanter exclusively reported last week. Additionally, Anansi Boys publisher Dark Horse Comics has dropped the once-acclaimed scribe, and a UK stage production of Coraline was canceled in the last days of January. As allegations against Gaiman grew, Season 3 of Amazon Prime Video‘s Good Omens was scaled back to a 90-minute episode and Disney paused production on its big screen adaptation of The Graveyard Book."

https://deadline.com/2025/02/neil-gaiman-rape-lawsuits-amanda-palmer-filings-1236277339/

Wow. When this initially broke on social media a lot of sympathy seemed to lie with Palmer, but she's now been named for "procuring" and "presenting"?

 

[chrisstbh]

I wish they’d just kick him off the project and continue it. The art deserves to exist beyond the artist imo.

Surely they have clauses in the contracts for stuff like this.

 

[abake]

Meh.
I didn't really like the series that much. I doubt I will watch the second season.
As for Gaiman and Palmer, if the allegations are true, thrown their ***** in jail.

 

[Sassafras]

Meh.
I didn't really like the series that much. I doubt I will watch the second season.
As for Gaiman and Palmer, if the allegations are true, thrown their ***** in jail.

Yeah, but I'll take a wait and see approach. 'Coz, what little I know of Palmer, and Palmer/Gaiman's relationship, Palmer was weird IMO and they had this open marriage blah blah. Like if you were a Palmer fan - the whole thing was weird. Like they encouraged each other to get with other people.

Tho I haven't read the details. I could see someone young getting sucked into the weirdness like the whole Diddy thing, then later on you realize you were in over your head.

Shame, Gaiman is a gifted writer but some of his writing is weird sex stuff too, more or less. Thought the series was perfection. But don't mind it winding up with 2 Seasons, with cancel-happy Netflix feel like we were lucky to get that.

But yeah, if both of them are guilty they can go to jail with Diddy.