The Sideshow Freaks Fitness Thread

[Skiman]

Train me right Ski.

 

[The Ringer]

4 more please.

 

[Skiman]

4 more please.

 

[The Ringer]

 

[Skiman]

It's coming, I'm selling, it's time to get HUGE wit SKI!!!!!!!!!

 

[Skiman]

I've had this opinion of this show for a long time, online Bodybuilding friend and natural supported of mine Julie has the same views.

I feel that a lot of people are being mislead in the correct path to their fitness goals, also discourages

people and makes this seem like you have to kill yourself in the gym in order to look a certain way when obviously this is not the case.

As a certified personal trainer by the National Academy of Sports Medicine, a fitness competitor, a fitness enthusiast for over 27 years, I have always been shocked and dismayed at the workouts shown on The Biggest Loser. People who are s incredibly deconditioned should never ever be trained in the manner shown on television. It's offensive to the industry, it scares people, and it makes us look like monsters who only know how to yell and get angry. The majority of the population, and specifically her target demographic have NO business using kettlebells!

For the person who commented right before me, she says don't know it...etc....she doesn't know any better and it's unfortunate because she'll end up injured and will not reach her ultimate fitness goal. Just because you're sweating and working hard does NOT mean it's what you should be doing. Shame shame shame for those who put out this DVD!

Check out it.

https://tv.yahoo.com/blog/health-ex...men--1642?bcmtex=345399#mwpphu-comment-345399

Update: Jillian Michaels Responds to "Fraud" Allegations

This week Jillian Michaels's reputation as a fitness trainer was called into question by a much-buzzed-about Los Angeles Times op-ed.



Jillian responded to those allegations on Wednesday, telling UsMagazine.com: "Apparently I'm an actress. Shame on the Los Angeles Times for saying I'm a fraud and not a trainer. I currently own two certifications, one of which doesn't expire. I developed my own continuing education program for trainers, with sports medicine doctors. I've been a trainer since I was 17 years old for 19 years."



(Neither the bio on Jillian's website nor her "Biggest Loser" bio at NBC.com list information about the certifications.)



Michaels also told Us she plans to take legal action: "I'm going after them," and added: "They didn't do any of their homework. They flat-out [lied]. It's defamation, it's libel, it's full-on."



Jillian Michaels built her fitness empire on the success of her tough-love persona on NBC's "The Biggest Loser" and "Losing It with Jillian," where the personal trainer teaches desperately overweight contestants how to lose weight The Right Way: Eat less, move more.



As her many happy reality-TV contestants can attest, her method certainly seems to work. But still some are skeptical as to whether Jillian's way is truly the best way.



A damning op-ed in the Los Angeles Times calls into question Michaels's qualifications as a trainer, painting the reality-TV star as a hypocrite who misleads fans to make a buck. In the article, writer James S. Fell -- a certified health expert based in Canada -- zeroes in on her new workout DVD, "Shred-It With Weights," her guide for novices on how to burn fat using cannon-sized weights called kettlebells. He writes:





"I don't know much about proper kettlebell techniques. Neither does Jillian Michaels. I have an internationally respected fitness certification and 17 years' experience with free weights, yet I lack the audacity to pretend I am qualified to teach kettlebells. Jillian Michaels, on the other hand, is lacking in shame. At least that's what I thought until I realized Michaels is not actually a real fitness trainer -- she's an actress playing the role of fitness trainer on TV and in a line of popular DVDs."





[Related: See more of trainer Jillian Michaels]



Among Fell's allegations: Michaels's technique is shoddy and her routines unsafe, leading her target audience -- obese men and women looking to shed pounds without crash diets -- to work out The Wrong Way. While a blurb on the kettlebell DVD claims users can "lose up to 5 pounds in a week," Fell breaks it down, calories and all, leading him to conclude that an inexperienced user would need to do four hours of kettlebells per day to fulfill Michaels's weight-loss promise.



[Jillian's 4 Unbreakable Rules For Weight Loss]



So, who is the writer behind this anti-Jillian screed? He's a certified strength and conditioning expert who wrote a book with his family-practitioner wife, Dr. Heidi Fell, called Body for Wife: The Family Guy's Guide to Getting in Shape. His regimen relies on the fitness basics of cardio, weightlifting and a healthy diet.


On top of that, he cites several personal trainers who slam her kettlebell teachings, calling foul on her form. One of those trainers, Mark Cheng, is a specialist at Kettlebells Los Angeles, and he had this to say:



"Her technique is appalling," Cheng told Fell. "What she says in the video and what she demonstrates are two different things. She doesn't break things down into manageable pieces that prompt people to get the correct form, so instead she is enabling bad form ... I would not recommend this from a safety perspective."



Other trainers have taken to the internet to vent their frustration with what they say are Jillian's mistakes in kettlebell training.



David Whitley, a kettlebell aficionado and self-described fat-loss coach, applauds Jillian's efforts at introducing the world to his chosen fitness method, but says she has "no idea how to use kettlebells." He wrote on his Iron Tamer website: "Celebrity/TV trainers of the world: I know you are trying... You just need to get some instruction on how to do it. I just want to you to demonstrate correct form."



Brad Nelson, a Russian Kettlebell instructor with a lengthy fitness resume, had even harsher words, saying on his Bradrants blog: "Jillian, you should be ashamed of demonstrating something you obviously have yet to learn how to use yourself."



When contacted by Yahoo!, Michaels's representative Ashley Sandberg declined comment on the Los Angeles Times story, but said she would make Michaels available for questions on the "Shred-It" DVD.



[Jillian Explains Why She Won't Ever Get Pregnant]



In recent months, Michaels has been sued four times over her dietary supplements. The latest lawsuit came in August, when an anonymous plaintiff filed a $10 million suit alleging that the fitness guru's product "Triple Process Total Body Detox & Cleanse" contained dangerous ingredients.



Last February, two women separately sued Michaels for false advertising on a diet pill she endorses, "Jillian Michaels Maximum Strength Calorie Control."



Michaels responded by calling the suits "baseless" and standing by the supplement and its maker, ThinCare International, which is based in Utah. She told the Associated Press: "My reputation and credibility are of the utmost importance to me."



Janet Helm, a writer, registered dietitian who has appeared on the Today show, Good Morning America, and CNN as a spokesperson for the American Dietetic Association, also called into question Michaels' fitness credentials when the trainer started hawking her Quickstart Rapid Weight Loss System. Quickstart, she pointed out, relies heavily on caffeine and Yerba Mate, an herbal supplement some claim can aid weight loss.



"A review of existing studies on weight loss supplements in the American Journal of Clinical Nutrition found that Yerba Mate (along with several other dietary supplements) is not effective for reducing body weight," Helm wrote in an essay on her site, NutritionUnplugged.com.



Jillian's supporters say it's not her workout and diet prescriptions that are the most important pieces of her fitness equation -- it's her psychological approach.



An essay on Yahoo TV's sister site, Shine, points out: "When things get tough once Jillian shows up, these people have a million excuses: I'm alone, I'm tired, I don't have any help, it's the way I've always done it. But, of course, Jillian blows those excuses to smithereens. Life isn't happening at you, she says; you are happening to life."

 

[hairlesswookiee]

I just skimmed through most of that post, but yes I agree that most of the time people on the fitness shows tend to contradict what I've heard from other trainers. Same goes for a lot of the Men's Health and "Muscle" magazines. I'm not saying they're a complete waste of time, but definitely get a second opinion from a real-life trainer before you change and tailor your workout to what is posted in an article.

 

[LaMelnik]

I'd bone her HARD!!!!

 

[Skiman]

I'd bone her HARD!!!!

 

[quiggle]

what's the best workouts for those who have very little time for exercise? thanks!

 

[hairlesswookiee]

what's the best workouts for those who have very little time for exercise? thanks!

Make more time.

 

[LaMelnik]

According to television it's the SHAKE WEIGHT!!!!

ARGH!!!!

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But this seems more realistic for what it is used for...

Warning for language....

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[balboa1976]

what's the best workouts for those who have very little time for exercise? thanks!

I see you post an average of ten times a day on this forum, and you don't have time to exercise Guess what, turn the computer off and get off your lazy ass.

If you can't manage three one hour exercise sessions a week, then forget about it. That's all it takes to get in shape. treadmill for 30 mins and weight train with the other 30 minutes, that's it. It's the bare minimum, but if you don't have time, this is a program that well work.

Sorry about calling you lazy but lets be honest, if you cut all the time you BS on the internet in half you would've plenty of time for workouts.

 

[quiggle]

I see you post an average of ten times a day on this forum, and you don't have time to exercise Guess what, turn the computer off and get off your lazy ass.

If you can't manage three one hour exercise sessions a week, then forget about it. That's all it takes to get in shape. treadmill for 30 mins and weight train with the other 30 minutes, that's it. It's the bare minimum, but if you don't have time, this is a program that well work.

Sorry about calling you lazy but lets be honest, if you cut all the time you BS on the internet in half you would've plenty of time for workouts.

yeah thats true one of my friends also told me to buy Stallone's workout book, its pretty expensive but do you think it's worth it since I assume you have it?

 

[hairlesswookiee]

Sorry about calling you lazy but lets be honest, if you cut all the time you BS on the internet in half you would've plenty of time for workouts.

There's 24 hours in a day. I call B.S. when someone says "they don't have time" to work out. If you want to get in shape you simply need to adjust the schedule to find time.

 

[quiggle]

yeah what about motivation i mean doesnt lifting a dumbbell or running in place kind of get stale after awhile?

 

[The Ringer]

Nevvvah!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!^

 

[LaMelnik]

Yeah - This doesn't give you any motivation at all....

 

[Eli26]

I agree, I don't believe in anyone who says they don't have time.

If you can watch TV for two hours a day you can work out.

If you can play on your computer for hours you can work out.

24 hours is a lot in a day. Mind you 8 of that should be sleeping. So 16... still. Even an hour a day is better than nothing. That gives you 15 hours where you're doing whatever it is you need to do.

Get off your ass!

 

[quiggle]

yeah but when I watch tv or the internet I am having my meals so I cant replace that and start working out after I eat, I need time for it to digest.