The studio ADI Collection

[67L88Stingray]

The price involves a multitude of factors. VFX artist time and skills,studio grade materials,licensing etc.... These actually do cost more to produce than the overseas manufactured replicas.

So these are made in the US?

 

[SteveL]

So these are made in the US?

Yes,each handmade and painted by their PFX artists,then packed and shipped,all in-house at ADI's shop. The cost structure is not the same as that of a mass production, overseas operation.It's expensive to produce anything in Los Angeles,or California in general, and this is also not ADI's primary business,so things have to be priced accordingly.

 

[67L88Stingray]

Yes,each handmade and painted by their PFX artists,then packed and shipped,all in-house at ADI's shop. The cost structure is not the same as that of a mass production, overseas operation.It's expensive to produce anything in Los Angeles,or California in general, and this is also not ADI's primary business,so things have to be priced accordingly.

Interesting, how much does that really add though? Only comparison I can think of is my life size Anubis from Chronicle a few years ago. It was $1300 and made in China, then they did a smaller run of 40 Horus busts, but in the US for $1700. I still don't see where they are getting this huge price.

Their prices remind me of a construction guy I knew, jobs he didn't want to do he priced sky high so if anyone actually agreed he made so much money over what the job was worth he couldn't say no.

 

[sleepybee]

Hourly rates from artists based in US/LA is higher than the ones in China obviously... Then you also pay for the name ADI, let's admit it, and that's pretty logical. And it's a limited run of 100 compared to the 1800 the P1/CoolProps version of the dog alien (1000 for reg and 800 for deluxe). So that's a big difference.
You can divide the costs on way more copies.

 

[67L88Stingray]

Hourly rates from artists based in US/LA is higher than the ones in China obviously... Then you also pay for the name ADI, let's admit it, and that's pretty logical. And it's a limited run of 100 compared to the 1800 the P1/CoolProps version of the dog alien (1000 for reg and 800 for deluxe). So that's a big difference.
You can divide the costs on way more copies.

Did you even read my post?

 

[sleepybee]

Did you even read my post?

I did.
But I was not specifically replying to your post. Otherwise I would have made a quote just like right now.

 

[67L88Stingray]

I did.
But I was not specifically replying to your post. Otherwise I would have made a quote just like right now.

We have been over everything you said, that does not come close to explaining why it costs 4x as much.

 

[SteveL]

It's not like P1 is giving you a deal on their pieces. They actually have a higher overall profit margin on their pieces because of all the cost cutting involved in manufacturing and materials.

Have you ever looked into how P1 comes up with their pricing with the same criticisms? Just because it's comparatively less expensive to you doesn't mean that P1 isn't profiteering off you.

 

[SteveL]

Hourly rates from artists based in US/LA is higher than the ones in China obviously... Then you also pay for the name ADI, let's admit it, and that's pretty logical. And it's a limited run of 100 compared to the 1800 the P1/CoolProps version of the dog alien (1000 for reg and 800 for deluxe). So that's a big difference.
You can divide the costs on way more copies.

BTW, none of this is being directed at you personally sleepybee,just quoting your post.

These aren't just any artists in the US either. These are some of the best in the PFX industry.There is a big difference between what they are paid over a Chinese laborer or a typical artist. You also pay for the Prime1 or Coolprops name along with the Fox/Disney name with those products. It's no different.

For those who think that ADI should price their pieces to closer match that of the chinese replica companies,ask yourself this,are you willing to work for less at your jobs so your customers can get the same price advantage as an overseas competitor can provide?

 

[Python]

For those who think that ADI should price their pieces to closer match that of the chinese replica companies,ask yourself this,are you willing to work for less at your jobs so your customers can get the same price advantage as an overseas competitor can provide?

I'm not sure anybody has actually suggested this? We are all aware of what this thing is and the pedigree it has. Nor do we think Prime one are stealing from the rich and giving to us lot. But ultimately money talks, and in this specific case, there is a totally awesome other option to choose and that option happens to be over $4k less expensive. That isn't to take away from what ADI are offering at all, but it is very likely to further limit their sales in this case as most of us will be happy to take the lower priced option regardless of why the price difference might exist. Again, both options are very cool, more power to those who can support ADI buy spending that kind of money. I'd love to, but I can't, and to be honest, I don't even feel like I'm having to settle for the second best option in this case.

 

[67L88Stingray]

It's not like P1 is giving you a deal on their pieces. They actually have a higher overall profit margin on their pieces because of all the cost cutting involved in manufacturing and materials.

Have you ever looked into how P1 comes up with their pricing with the same criticisms? Just because it's comparatively less expensive to you doesn't mean that P1 isn't profiteering off you.

Obviously P1 is making money, that's why they exist. No way these cost 4x as much to produce as the P1 stuff. Chinese labor costs are way up and I just gave an example of a smaller company that did 2 similar pieces one done in China and one in the US with a much lower ES and the difference was about 30%. Granted those guys probably don't make what ADI guys make, but I am struggling to see the justification and all I hear is defensive arguments that amount to no real information. Collectors that have gotten both seem to be more impressed with the P1, so I guess it just comes down to if you want to help send the ADI guy's kids to college or not.

 

[67L88Stingray]

For those who think that ADI should price their pieces to closer match that of the chinese replica companies,ask yourself this,are you willing to work for less at your jobs so your customers can get the same price advantage as an overseas competitor can provide?

I don't like it, but that's kind of standard practice these days, if they don't they go out of business unless they have a vastly superior product.

 

[SteveL]

It's expensive.That's just the way that it is,no matter how you look at it. Either way, I would love to be confronted with all these!

https://www.instagram.com/p/BzqohBfDv_P/

 

[67L88Stingray]

It's expensive.

 

[SteveL]

And, obviously, not as expensive as owning one of the originals

Here is another video of the TRUE ADI "Dog Alien" maquettes.

https://www.instagram.com/p/BzsqbVDg6na/

 

[Walls]

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Lmao!

 

[67L88Stingray]

And, obviously, not as expensive as owning one of the originals

Here is another video of the TRUE ADI "Dog Alien" maquettes.

https://www.instagram.com/p/BzsqbVDg6na/

Yes, a real screen used piece would have it's own value associated with it, but I don't see how that has any bearing on the reproductions.

 

[SteveL]

Yes, a real screen used piece would have it's own value associated with it, but I don't see how that has any bearing on the reproductions.

The originals were design maquettes. How would a design maquette be screen used?

Maquettes are actually design tools,unlike replica company products where that term is loosely throwing around.

 

[67L88Stingray]

The originals were design maquettes. How would a design maquette be screen used?

Maquettes are actually design tools,unlike replica company products where that term is loosely throwing around.

Yes, well either way, comparing these to the originals in terms of value isn't a valid justification for the cost of these "replicas"

 

[SteveL]

The SS 1/3 scale maquette was $800 The P1 is $1799.

One could concur that the same rationale of price would apply.

What justifies over double the price difference between the SS and the P1?