The Walking Dead - TV Series on AMC ( Comic and Un-aired Spoilers unwelcome!)

[Henry Morgan*]

The last couple episodes has had some really forced plotting, requiring a greater suspension of disbelief than usual. For me, it started with Carol being too deaf and blind to see a car coming (although we see hear Rick coming up on Bob #2 from a block away), but it continued with her story line once she's in the hospital. Clearly the writers didn't know what to do with her for a couple episodes. Knock her out, don't let her wake up til the last possible minute, and then have her walking out of the hospital all of a sudden, no longer on death's door. You can make up whatever rationalization you want for her to be in the hospital that you want, but the simple truth is the writers wanted her there so when the rumors started on someone dying in the mid-season finale, they had more than just Beth in direct danger.

Then Bob #2 bolts, which makes no sense. His hands are tied, and he chooses to face the walkers rather than attempt the trade. What possible plan could he have? Somehow manage to get back to the hospital and warn them? Then what? For someone written as though he has sense, it seemed about as foolish as you could get, not much different than Abraham's wife taking off with the kids.

And then there's the minister. Why did he leave, exactly? He's terrified of leaving the church, yet now he takes off because he 'has to see'? He pries up floorboards in a small room in a small church and Michonne and Carl can't hear it? Everybody on this show seems to be freaking deaf.

I don't know about you, but I'd also like a bit more understanding on Abraham. He's just cool with it all now? We spend an entire episode with him on his knees over Eugene's lie, but get no resolution as to why he's now on board with it all again. Hopefully they'll give us something when the get back to it in February.

Don't get me wrong - I was entertained. I'm enjoying this season. But a lot of the writing has been forced over the last couple episodes, and it seems somewhat out of place.

I absolutely agree, this is the first time I'm starting to question the writer's decisions, some really weird and pointless things happened in the last few episodes

It's really too bad and kinda surprising they killed her off IMO. While I know she was a bit like wallpaper, it's a young and innocent character that could continue to be developed over the next couple of seasons. So I'm sorry to see the character go. Also the direction of the shooting itself was really pretty clumsily handled. It looked forced and not well choreographed. The reactions from Rick, Daryl and Maggie were well acted, but the whole sequence lacked emotional punch, and felt more like your basic "we've gotta kill someone off" plotline

I'm also not feeling the need to keep Tara around, and would have preferred to see her go over Beth.

I totally agree

edit: I just looked up the actress that played Beth. She's 29!

she looks so much younger! dem genes

 

[Mister Ski]

Is this the Star Wars thread? Lot of talk about the force going on.

 

[nexus]

she looks so much younger! dem genes

I figured 16 or 17. My wife looked like a teenager well into her 30s though.

 

[rushmore223]

The episode, from an editing standpoint, felt very disjointed. I imagine there must be a great deal that was left on the cutting room floor, so to speak. While I love the show, much of this episode felt pointless. Carol served little to no purpose being in the hospital, thought she might provide Beth with some kind of protection when the poop hit the fan. Thought for sure there would at least be a scene with Carol and Beth once Carol started to wake up. I too was sad to see Beth die, while it did feel like she may have intentionally instigated her own death, it felt meaningless in the end.

I imagine (or hope) when the Season set is released on disc, that more material is added to flesh out this episode. This is one of the first times in memory that an episode of Walking Dead felt rushed and incomplete.

 

[Deckard]

I feel like this is the first time we've gone into a break with nothing in particular to look forward to when it comes back. There aren't really any dangling threads except Morgan but who knows how that will play out or how much longer the after credits things will go on. Is he going to become a regular on the show? Come back for 30 seconds and wind up dead? It doesn't feel like it will resolve any time soon. What's Rick's game plan? Are they going somewhere? It's just all kinda there, feels almost like even the writers don't know exactly where to take it yet.

 

[Henry Morgan*]

I feel like this is the first time we've gone into a break with nothing in particular to look forward to when it comes back. There aren't really any dangling threads except Morgan but who knows how that will play out or how much longer the after credits things will go on. Is he going to become a regular on the show? Come back for 30 seconds and wind up dead? It doesn't feel like it will resolve any time soon. What's Rick's game plan? Are they going somewhere? It's just all kinda there, feels almost like even the writers don't know exactly where to take it yet.

Same here (except for Morgan) I don't care about the rest...

I hope this is the last episode to end with a "shocking" death, that is getting old quickly

 

[crows]

I get the feeling that the show wishes to recapture the emotions and shock factor of Sophia walking out the barn with episodes like this one but it just isn't happening.
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yeah I have to agree with that

I was totally on board for most of the season but this one made me lose interest. felt very anti-climactic. I liked that the other episodes were building up to something but at the end it ended up with everyone in a hallway trading people..... that sucked so bad ( Now I wish they did go with Rick's plan. it would have been more exciting. )
I don't understand why Rick didn't ask to make the trade outside. After being so careful all the time and now all of the sudden they ALL go inside the building? Why didn't they ask to do the trade somewhere else? not even leave one of them outside just in case things go bad?

Why couldn't Tyresee be outside while they do the trade? that was kind of stupid.


I don't understand why Rick shot cop Bob, I couldn't make out what he was saying. Why couldn't Rick still make the trade with 3 cops? what was the problem with Bob?


I also don't understand what the priest wanted to see. Did he wanted to see if the cannibals really deserved to die? if they really were eating Bob's leg? what was going on?

 

[Michael Crawford]

Maybe you're right, crows...maybe he wanted to decide if the Termites really deserved to die. That makes the most sense when he said he had to see for himself...

 

[Nintenjoe]

And that reminds me - what the hell was up with the shooting of Beth? When did Dawn draw her gun? And how did she manage to shoot her in the forehead when they were about 3 inches apart? Can you tell I thought the whole thing was really forced?

Yeah I went back and watched it a few times. From what I could tell her gun was holstered then all of a sudden it's in her hand and pointed upright when she gets stabbed. For a huge show, that scene was very poorly done.

 

[Sweet Rabbit]

There was more than that part that was poorly done

 

[Fritz]

And that reminds me - what the hell was up with the shooting of Beth? When did Dawn draw her gun? And how did she manage to shoot her in the forehead when they were about 3 inches apart?...

Yeah, this. And then she has the look on her face like it was an accident. How do you draw your gun and shoot someone in the head from a few inches in the span of a few seconds by accident?

 

[Nintenjoe]

Now I'm no gun or forensics expert but besides Dawn's gun be holstered during the confrontation, the angle of the gun would've never made such a clean shot at the top of Beth's forehead. It's impossible. At the angle the the gun went off, it would've most likely hit her in the chin or grazed her face. It would not be a clean straight looking shot through the forehead. Beth was not looking down. She was looking straight ahead. The blood shooting out is at the correct angle though.

 

[Jokes & Bats]

yeah I have to agree with that

I was totally on board for most of the season but this one made me lose interest. felt very anti-climactic. I liked that the other episodes were building up to something but at the end it ended up with everyone in a hallway trading people..... that sucked so bad ( Now I wish they did go with Rick's plan. it would have been more exciting. )

Building up to something that turns into nothing appears to be a trend.

Welcome to the Tombs built up to....nothing

Terminus built up to...nothing

Daryl and Beth alone in the wild built up to...nothing

Bob #2 running away built up to...nothing

Hospital scenes with Beth built up to...nothing

Abraham and crew setting off to Washington built up to...nothing


The programme is missing tension. Season One and Two had superb tension between Rick, Lori and Shane because of the affair.
Season 3 had the constant threat of the Governor.

The latter half of Season 4 was such a mess.

Season 5 feels forced. I've no idea who is writing these seasons now but they need to be fired.

They need to cap the number of episodes per season and make it much lower and they need to say 'Five seasons then we are done' and have an ending in sight.

Why was Breaking Bad so good? Because it had fewer episodes and moved towards an ending. Walking Dead is currently been churned out because it's making money. Its fame is it's worst enemy.

 

[crows]

Now I'm no gun or forensics expert but besides Dawn's gun be holstered during the confrontation, the angle of the gun would've never made such a clean shot at the top of Beth's forehead. It's impossible. At the angle the the gun went off, it would've most likely hit her in the chin or grazed her face. It would not be a clean straight looking shot through the forehead. Beth was not looking down. She was looking straight ahead. The blood shooting out is at the correct angle though.

i found the scene in gif form

 

[HODLr]

Building up to something that turns into nothing appears to be a trend.

Welcome to the Tombs built up to....nothing

Terminus built up to...nothing

Daryl and Beth alone in the wild built up to...nothing

Bob #2 running away built up to...nothing

Hospital scenes with Beth built up to...nothing

Abraham and crew setting off to Washington built up to...nothing


The programme is missing tension. Season One and Two had superb tension between Rick, Lori and Shane because of the affair.
Season 3 had the constant threat of the Governor.

The latter half of Season 4 was such a mess.

Season 5 feels forced. I've no idea who is writing these seasons now but they need to be fired.

They need to cap the number of episodes per season and make it much lower and they need to say 'Five seasons then we are done' and have an ending in sight.

Why was Breaking Bad so good? Because it had fewer episodes and moved towards an ending. Walking Dead is currently been churned out because it's making money. Its fame is it's worst enemy.

Totally disagree. I like this season and where it's at. As for you saying Breaking Bad was so good because it had fewer episodes, I disagree on that, too, and I really liked BB. BB had plenty of crap episodes and there were quite a few times where Jesse and Walter fighting became a slapstick comedy. There's crap in every series. That's a fact.

 

[EVILFACE]

Now I'm no gun or forensics expert but besides Dawn's gun be holstered during the confrontation, the angle of the gun would've never made such a clean shot at the top of Beth's forehead. It's impossible. At the angle the the gun went off, it would've most likely hit her in the chin or grazed her face. It would not be a clean straight looking shot through the forehead. Beth was not looking down. She was looking straight ahead. The blood shooting out is at the correct angle though.

It's just a TV show, brah.

 

[crows]

Totally disagree. I like this season and where it's at. As for you saying Breaking Bad was so good because it had fewer episodes, I disagree on that, too, and I really liked BB. BB had plenty of crap episodes and there were quite a few times where Jesse and Walter fighting became a slapstick comedy. There's crap in every series. That's a fact.

but when breaking bad built up for stuff, it was really big stuff. it was shocking stuff. they never took that for granted the way walking dead does sometimes.
In walking dead they seem to be building up just for the sake of building up without caring for the outcome. suspense for the sake of suspense.

like this article said it:

As heavily hinted over the last week, a major character saw his/her end on the show, and that was kind of a bummer. But "Coda" was also sad because it featured some of the worst plotting of season 5, which rendered the story more laughable than moving — a big step back from what has otherwise been a solid season.

​The Walking Dead Mid-Season Finale Was Tragic For Two Reasons

 

[DiFabio]

I think a little magic imp unholstered Dawn's gun and made her shoot Beth.

Look how surprised Dawn is when Beth's head gets blown off. She looks more shocked than everyone in the hallway. She didn't do it!

 

[Deckard]

"Back and to the left. Back and to the left. Back... and to the left."

 

[Nintenjoe]

It's just a TV show, brah.

Doesn't excuse ****** writing and choreography.