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devilof76
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I think I can abridge it even further: it's unrealistic because you said so, and because you said so, the show has been cheapened.
devilof76
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It's not.
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It is.
You posted that you thought it would be cheap if they gave him a cheap death. Just because you personally thought that, doesn't make it so my man. The way they shot it was bold, a real heart tugging scene. They're going to back out of it and save Glenn as a publicity stunt. That is cheap, especially after they rant and rave about how "nobody is safe".
You posted that you thought it would be cheap if they gave him a cheap death. Just because you personally thought that, doesn't make it so my man. The way they shot it was bold, a real heart tugging scene. They're going to back out of it and save Glenn as a publicity stunt. That is cheap, especially after they rant and rave about how "nobody is safe".
it isn't cheap if.. he gets bit. that's what I am hoping they were going with this. maybe he gets bit in the leg and the arm. and will only be around for a couple of episodes .
the only problem with that theory is those damn pics of him on set with different clothes... which does makes that theory of getting bitten not work.
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I think this would actually be a one of the show's most daring moves in a long time. His 'death' wasn't particularly signposted in the episode like the deaths of other characters have been in the past - therefore it takes one by surprise. The mission he is on ends up a complete failure, so what might have been a cliched hero's demise doesn't come to be - few people get to die that way so in that sense it's a dose of harsh reality. Lastly, as was mentioned by Mad Old Lu and Invictus Sol, no one would know what happened to him - which brings a further element of realism and melancholy.
Moot of course. Strong evidence from future episodes indicates that he's alive and well
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devilof76
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So because you personally believe otherwise...things are somehow different?
I'm pretty sure Glenn is dead by the end of the season. How does that make him safe? And if he isn't dead now, how are they backing out of anything? They're backing out of subjecting him to the closest call of his life? By having him make it?
This scene is another step in the foreshadowing that has been building. What it will do is provide a foundation for when the moment finally arrives. Between now and then, they will complete the character's arc, because this is a story, not real life. But if you want to argue realism, the man is not just experienced at getting out of tight spots; he's exceptional.
But you got off on the idea that what you saw happening was his death and you're committed. Anything else now is pandering and solicitation.
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No way is he dead. TWD is neither bold nor clever enough to do that.
devilof76
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Maybe some day they'll pander to the demographic waiting for deaths that satisfy the arbitrary and generally meaningless criteria of being unpredictable. Until then, I imagine they'll only kill characters as the story requires.
fosing
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y'know what, they should employ textvoting. give the powah back to the people.
who do you want to die next? send your textvotes.....NOW.
who do you want to die next? send your textvotes.....NOW.
Nope...they'll keep the fan favorites around for teh ratings, all of the season fodder will go
devilof76
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I think Glenn's as good as dead. Just not yet.
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That's what I was thinking. No one saw it coming and no one would know what happened to him. That would bolster the realism of the show. Plus no one of serious consequence has died in ages. Noah (?) and tyrese in maybe the last 20 eps? We were waaaay overdue for a main character death. We needed a story thread course correction by at least one major character getting killed during the season. Instead we get Glenn potentially pulling off an escape act that would make Houdini skeptical.
If Glenn gets out of this, many viewers will question if any major character can die or is in fact dead after a situation IMO. If that happens the show has crossed a line. It violates the "no one is safe" mantra. In fact it's the opposite: basically EVERYONE is safe. The other violation is the law of physics. If he lives, viewers now know that the writers can bend the physical conditions of a situation beyond reality. this is probably the greater infraction because it violates a basic tenet of writing (implausible story/actions) and insults the intelligence of many viewers. Reminds me of when they made an entire season of Dallas a character's dream.
When things like this happen, yes, the show is cheapened. It dips its toe into campiness. (I.e. Professional wrestling, '66 batman show, Get Smart).
And this is not "because I say so". This is just my opinion supported by reason, fact, and specific examples from the show.
fosing
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glenn lives. to die another day.
extra rice for shortround.
extra rice for shortround.
devilof76
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so true
zackhigh1226
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A lot of excellent points have been made in this thread. The more I think about it, the more I realize how disappointed I'd be if Glenn were to escape without a scratch (bite). I'm a big fan of Glenn, but having him escape this mess unharmed would be unbelievably bizarre. Not to mention his survival would discredit the "nobody is safe" motto, as well as take so much away from how tragic (and how well done) that scene was.
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