The Willow Polystone Statue

[Chapter 2099]

it's 1/5







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Just found it. Scale is a good thing. Glad SSC is listing it now.

 

[Sweet Rabbit]

Just found it. Scale is a good thing. Glad SSC is listing it now.

they kinda have to spill all the beans with this NRD

 

[Something Sexy]

they kinda have to spill all the beans with this NRD

Valid point!!!!

 

[Blackthornone]

So, you wear make-up when you feel "in the mood", ok, we get it!!!


On a side note, you are being an ignorant. Make up has been used by men since ancient times. By the Egiptians, by warrior tribes, for religious ceremonies...only a fool would think that Wearing make up implies that a woman is in the mood.

You should watch less television/porn, it is not doing any good on you

I think the word you were looking for is Egyptians. There is no i in Egypt.
I am referring to a certain TYPE of make up. Not clown make up, not war paint, not stage make up, not anti glare black under the eyes. I have indicated the type of make up I was referring to before. There are lots of different types of make up. Each one expresses a certain look which has a certain meaning. I am referring only to the type of make up that is designed to make women look more sexually attractive.
To do something deliberately to make someone more sexually attractive is to sexually objectify that someone, even if you do it to yourself. To do a specific thing to deliberately make yourself more sexually attractive suggests you are in the mood for sex, does it not?
It doesn't PROVE you are in the mood, but it suggests it.
It would be like when someone puts on an auto racing driving suit, gloves, shoes, helmet. It suggests that the person is going auto racing, does it not? It doesn't prove it, because they are just adopting the LOOK of going racing, but it does certainly suggest it. Or a person putting on a flight suit, or a parachute. It suggests that the person is in the mood for flying or parachuting. It doesn't prove it. They just might want to try it on, get the feeling that they get from wearing it. However, it suggests they are in the mood to do those things. Why would a woman wearing make up to make herself look more sexually attractive be any different in principle? Because almost all women do it? That is not a logical reason. As far as watching less television, I got this info about women's make up from a documentary on The Learning Channel, you know, the one that has shows of a high quality, that teaches people new things, things they might not already know, because they were previously uninformed, as most people ARE, hence the purpose of the station, to help ignorant people LEARN SOMETHING.

Perhaps you are the type of person that does not believe that anything has inherent meaning or properties if you do not believe in them, like gold has a certain atomic number all the time, whether you believe in it or not, or in this case, that a certain type of women's make up can enhance her sexual attractiveness. If you or anyone else who disagrees with me is this type of person, then there is nothing I can say to convince you otherwise. If you really think that you have to believe in something for it to have a certain effect, then there is no point in me trying to convince you otherwise, and if you only hold conventionalism to be true, then you won't accept a logical argument, you will only wait until most people have a certain point of view, and then raise you to accept that point of view, and THEN you will believe in that point of view. I have nothing more to say then.

 

[CAhobbit]

Hmmmm...perhaps some women wear make-up because they simply like the enhancement it gives or gives them a little more confidence, etc. Putting on make-up does not equal a 'I'm ready to go' attitude for ALL women (perhaps for some, but not all). Now whether it is perceived as such is a whole different story (a point which I believe you're trying to make, maybe? It's just not really coming across as such in the previous posts). But really, ANYTHING could come across one way than its original intention, someone could really find clogs to be a sign that said individual is 'ready to party', for example. It really all comes down to perception/brain wiring/etc.

Should we realize that how we present ourselves does give off certain impressions? Sure, but that doesn't mean we're giving out open invitations to men and that doesn't mean we should stop wearing make-up for fear of being accosted. Of course, that also shouldn't mean we ignore the fact that a certain look/outfit/etc. MIGHT send a certain message. So with the right knowledge of both sides of the coin (so to speak) we can keep ourselves safe, be respectful of others, etc. Or at last try to and hope others can do the same.

Just my two cents as a female.

 

[YoNoSe]

I brushed my teeth today. BRING ON THE SEX!

 

[Something Sexy]

Hmmmm...perhaps some women wear make-up because they simply like the enhancement it gives or gives them a little more confidence, etc. Putting on make-up does not equal a 'I'm ready to go' attitude for ALL women (perhaps for some, but not all). Now whether it is perceived as such is a whole different story (a point which I believe you're trying to make, maybe? It's just not really coming across as such in the previous posts). But really, ANYTHING could come across one way than its original intention, someone could really find clogs to be a sign that said individual is 'ready to party', for example. It really all comes down to perception/brain wiring/etc.

Should we realize that how we present ourselves does give off certain impressions? Sure, but that doesn't mean we're giving out open invitations to men and that doesn't mean we should stop wearing make-up for fear of being accosted. Of course, that also shouldn't mean we ignore the fact that a certain look/outfit/etc. MIGHT send a certain message. So with the right knowledge of both sides of the coin (so to speak) we can keep ourselves safe, be respectful of others, etc. Or at last try to and hope others can do the same.

Just my two cents as a female.

 

[Blackthornone]

Hmmmm...perhaps some women wear make-up because they simply like the enhancement it gives or gives them a little more confidence, etc. Putting on make-up does not equal a 'I'm ready to go' attitude for ALL women (perhaps for some, but not all). Now whether it is perceived as such is a whole different story (a point which I believe you're trying to make, maybe? It's just not really coming across as such in the previous posts). But really, ANYTHING could come across one way than its original intention, someone could really find clogs to be a sign that said individual is 'ready to party', for example. It really all comes down to perception/brain wiring/etc.

Should we realize that how we present ourselves does give off certain impressions? Sure, but that doesn't mean we're giving out open invitations to men and that doesn't mean we should stop wearing make-up for fear of being accosted. Of course, that also shouldn't mean we ignore the fact that a certain look/outfit/etc. MIGHT send a certain message. So with the right knowledge of both sides of the coin (so to speak) we can keep ourselves safe, be respectful of others, etc. Or at last try to and hope others can do the same.

Just my two cents as a female.

I appreciate that. It was never my intention to say that women are consciously trying to sexually objectify themselves by wearing make up. They simply wear it to look better, for the social advantage it provides as to appearing more pleasing to the eye for whatever reason they do it. What I have been trying to say is that make up have an inherent effect to make them look sexier at a subconscious level to all who see it, because that look taps into a mechanism hard wired into human psychology, established there for a very long time, whether they realize that this mechanism exists or not.
Most women do not realize or even think that there is any sexual objectification going on when they merely put it on for work or to go out, ect. Thus, most women do not put on make up with any especial intention to look sexier whatsoever. I apprehend that most women do not realize that there is an element of sexual objectification in putting on make up, because they are too caught up in the social convention of putting it on as routine to even think about it.

I am just trying to bring to light that there is an element of sexual objectification TO wearing make up, and because there is some, no matter how small it might be, I find it to be questionable how some people will be very selective about which types of sexual objectification that they approve of or not. Make up is totally ok in some people's minds, because it gives them social advantage, and thus directly improves the quality of their lives, while sexy statues, or art, for example, is not ok, because after all, those same people get no advantage from THAT type of sexual objectification, and so, since there is nothing in it for them, they object to it. I find that to be awfully convenient.
In addition, yes, no matter what a woman wears or doesn't, that never excuses unwanted contact by other people stimulated by it. I never said that it did, nor did I mean to imply it. I realize that it is an important issue, and may be of strong concern for some people, which might lead them to jump to the conclusion that I was implying that a woman wearing make up excuses whatever behavior anyone gets the idea to do because they saw it. I never said that was my position.
I just believe that all hypocrisy is wrong, and to excuse as totally acceptable any type of violation of a principle, no matter how minute, significantly undermines one's credibility when that same person claims that to violate it in other ways is wrong.

I see nothing wrong with increasing sexiness, but I am against discrimination, and selectively applying principles to one gender but not the other, or one action and not another, only because selective application of a principle improves the quality of one's life to some degree.
I say, wearing make up improves women's quality of life, and sexy statues of women improve men's quality of life, and it is unfair to judge one harshly but not the other. I like both.
I see that you seem to understand very well where I have been coming from.

 

[Adoptedscot]

Hi Shell!

Hiya babe

I brushed my teeth today. BRING ON THE SEX!

Wait, my carer wears make-up...Oooooo I'm gonna make a move cos she's obviously 'in the mood', how did I not know this secret signal

Ignore feature people...or just ignore

Anyway, back to the regular scheduling...The Willow Statue
x

 

[Blackthornone]

Hiya babe





Wait, my carer wears make-up...Oooooo I'm gonna make a move cos she's obviously 'in the mood', how did I not know this secret signal

It isn't a signal, it's a thing that is used that activates a biological signal whether one intends to or not. Every color in the spectrum elicits a certain inherent psychological response in human beings. Red gets more attention than any other color, which is why fire engines are painted with it. Red also excites appetite, which is why many restaurant tablecloths are red. Blue curbs appetite, hence the blue plate special, intended to cause people to eat less than they would if the plates were just white. Maroon is associated with wealth and exclusivity, but tends to alienate the lower economic class and discourages them from shopping in maroon colored store fronts.
Faber Birren is a world renowned color expert, and I read his book,
Light, Color and Environment, a number of years ago,and I found it to be quite enlightening. https://www.amazon.com/Light-Color-...1317/ref=sr_1_9?ie=UTF8&qid=1293017095&sr=8-9

Another book he wrote that looks interesting is his book, Principles of Color: A Review of Past Traditions and Modern Theories of Color Harmony.
https://www.amazon.com/Principles-C...1031/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1293017095&sr=8-2


Every color, and the shade of that color has an inherent effect on people. People might have acquired certain associations to various colors because of past experiences, but there are certain inherent effects that various colors have whether people are consciously aware of them or not. Certain color combinations always have a lot of impact, like red and blue, whereas other color combinations like green and yellow have less than red and blue. When certain colors are seen on certain parts of the human face, they have inherent effects as well. Red, again, indicates passion. Blue would indicate lack of passion. It seems to me that the understanding of color would greatly increase the richness of one's experience in viewing art, which would open up a whole new dimension of appreciation.

Of course, the contrasting colors of red and green in the Willow statue helps add to the excitement of the piece, by delivering more pop.
Wouldn't you agree?

 

[Adoptedscot]

This is not a discussion about psychological responses, sexual signals, books you've read or a documentary you've seen.
As usual Bt you are trying to turn a thread into a debate about something completely different, that is what I am entirely concious of.

This thread is about a Statue........discuss or move on please.
Thank you.

I really like this pic

...although imo it seems that the only 'character' they have captured could be Faith. I never really liked the Buffy Maquette and the character likeness just is not there for me with Willow but Faith looks okay with the little smirk and 'know it all' stance, although with her too the figure seems wrong but it may just be the angle/pic. I will wait for the full reveal and reserve judgement.

x

 

[Blackthornone]

This is not a discussion about psychological responses, sexual signals, books you've read or a documentary you've seen.
As usual Bt you are trying to turn a thread into a debate about something completely different, that is what I am entirely concious of.

This thread is about a Statue........discuss or move on please.
Thank you.
x

Actually if you recall, it was Star Puffs and others who raised the issue of this statue being sexist, and starting the debate on that and how it was wrong that Sideshow would sculpt a sexist statue and what was morally wrong about that, ect. I didn't start it. I just participated in it. Somehow, it is ok to complain about a statue being sexist and therefore immoral, but it is not ok to defend the sculpt of the statue as being ok. I understand now. I merely continued the same discussion or debate started by others. Why not take the people who started the debate that the statue is sexist to task as well? Starting a controversial topic is ok, but arguing against the initiator, the person who took issue with the Sideshow product, passionately and tenaciously, in order to defend the Sideshow product by whatever angles one can think of is not ok either. Ok, I understand THAT now, too.
I was defending the Sideshow product by every angle I can think of. Clearly, that is not ok. THAT is what I was actually doing. I will refrain from defending Sideshow's products passionately ever again, per your request. Of course, I was addressing the root psychological motivations that would cause one to object to the statue. If that isn't done, how can one ensure that similar objections regarding other statues which would come up in the future never have opposition again?

 

[DinoLast]

I keep coming to this thread expecting to see a Warwick Davis statue

 

[sueworld]

I'm afraid the only thing I like about all three of those are the bases. All three likenesses seem way off to me personally. I'm a bit suspicious of the Faith one as she seems to be have shoved into the shadows so you can't really get a good look at her face to see If she looks anything like her.

I'll reserve final judgment on her until they show us better images.

 

[Firebird]

I like the way they are displayed. I think I will display them that way when I get ahold of Willow and Faith. I like the Buffy Maquette and the way she has some attitude to her pose. The throne is just awesome as well.

 

[Adoptedscot]

I'm afraid the only thing I like about all three of those are the bases. All three likenesses seem way off to me personally. I'm a bit suspicious of the Faith one as she seems to be have shoved into the shadows so you can't really get a good look at her face to see If she looks anything like her.

I'll reserve final judgment on her until they show us better images.

I must admit I love the Willow base, prolly cos I loved that episode too but yeah I see what you mean about Faith. It looks like she might have a tombstone or something behind her but as you say I guess we'll just have to wait and see.
x

I like the way they are displayed. I think I will display them that way when I get ahold of Willow and Faith.

I think that would be a great display idea, they look good together, from what we can see at least

This line has real potential .
Looking at these pieces is making me wanna treat myself, get a late Christmas present and buy the DVD's to watch them all again. I watch an episode on TV everyday but never got round to owning the sets. Hhmmmmm, tempting.
x

 

[BuffyGirl]

You clearly don't understand sarcasm. I really don't care how you feel about the statue. I know why I like it and why I am buying it. All that matters to me.

And me, too. That's all we should be saying.

I brushed my teeth today. BRING ON THE SEX!

I brushed my hair too, so I am one up on you!

Hmmmm...perhaps some women wear make-up because they simply like the enhancement it gives or gives them a little more confidence, etc. Putting on make-up does not equal a 'I'm ready to go' attitude for ALL women (perhaps for some, but not all). Now whether it is perceived as such is a whole different story (a point which I believe you're trying to make, maybe? It's just not really coming across as such in the previous posts). But really, ANYTHING could come across one way than its original intention, someone could really find clogs to be a sign that said individual is 'ready to party', for example. It really all comes down to perception/brain wiring/etc.

Should we realize that how we present ourselves does give off certain impressions? Sure, but that doesn't mean we're giving out open invitations to men and that doesn't mean we should stop wearing make-up for fear of being accosted. Of course, that also shouldn't mean we ignore the fact that a certain look/outfit/etc. MIGHT send a certain message. So with the right knowledge of both sides of the coin (so to speak) we can keep ourselves safe, be respectful of others, etc. Or at last try to and hope others can do the same.

Just my two cents as a female.

I will give you 5 cents for it. It was THAT good.

 

[Something Sexy]

There are going to be a lot of sad people when all of the true Buffy fans get Willow and see how awesome she is going to be!

 

[Sweet Rabbit]

I keep coming to this thread expecting to see a Warwick Davis statue

 

[F0RSAK3N]

So far I think this statue will be great. True it's not a classic Willow outfit but I am happy with the pose and the sculpt so far. Bring on Faith!