The world my kids will grow up in...UNBELIEVABLE!

[preeny101]

Just plead insanity or blame your parents for not hugging you enough (or too much)

Is this the Con Air school of psychology?


Seriously, sick stuff and I feel for all of the victims.

 

[pixletwin]

What puzzles me is less the unwarranted and unprovoked attack which is horrific but what really gets me is how the bus passengers were relatively calm just trying to keep this psycho on the bus.....you'd expect people to flee and run for safety but they held him on....that is surprising.

Why didn't anyone do anything to try to stop the guy? I agree its great that locked him in the bus and made the bus undrivable, but why didn't anyone try to save the poor kid?

 

[Mesa]

Maybe there is something to that whole "violence in video games" school of thought. Except this attacker was in his 40's.

It turns my stomach thinking what you'd actually have to do in order to decapitate someone. There's no need for this wacko to exist.

 

[Voorhees27]

This story knocked the crap out of me early yesturday, I haven't been able to sleep right, especially last night. I can honestly say that I have more fear now than ever before. Saturday afternoon me and my wife returned from Orlando, we get home, settle in and get a knock at the door, its the Police.

A man in his early 30's was murdered one block from where we live in a park, then this happens several days later???? I don't feel safe here anymore, even in they "ever peacefull" Canada.

This poor kid left here in Edmonton where I live and on his way to Winnepeg, this is just shocking news! How can a person do something so random? This man is nothing less than a rabbid animal and should be put to sleep like one but we all know that will never happen!

He will spend the rest of his days in a padded cell waiting for his eternal despair in hell (I hope) I am SO sick and tired of seeing pieces of crap avoiding real punichment because they were drunk, high or insane. The evil ******* shouldn't be allowed to live another second.

I swear there is a negative mist in the air, life is good thank God but this story just dulled my senses further than ever before, continually playing out the scene in my head, thinking of what his parents must feel right now or how scarred he was when it happened.

 

[RJMacReady16]

I'm actually proud of all of this capital punishment talk!

There's supreme good and supreme evil in this world. Sounds like this dirt bag was batting for the latter.

Fry him.

 

[Anzik]

History clearly shows the true nature of humanity to be completely inhumane.

 

[UTtoyfan]

I guess the Joker really won.

But in all seriousness, this is truly a horrifying story. You hear about this stuff coming from the extremist terrorist groups, but nothing like this! My thoughts go out to the victim's family.

 

[Amir]

Why didn't anyone do anything to try to stop the guy? I agree its great that locked him in the bus and made the bus undrivable, but why didn't anyone try to save the poor kid?

Exactly, a bunch of cowards I guess, you see a guy getting stabbed you don't just walk away. You grab something and rush the fool, the victim may have still been alive when they all left him on the bus with the psycho. That may have led him to cut his head off...^^^^ing crazy people out there.

 

[Eli26]

https://www.cnn.com/2008/WORLD/americas/08/01/canada.beheading/index.html

Holy crap, that is in my neck of the woods. Manitoba... oh man... just when you think when stuff like that doesn't happen around here, you find out, yes, it can, and in this case, has.

 

[agen_kolar]

I think you guys need to realize a few things:

a) It's important to save those who can be saved. Everyone got off the bus, then three men went back to try to see what state the young man was in. It was at that point that they saw the attacker beheading him. There's nothing cowardly about that. You don't rush an attacker armed with a potentially deadly weapon on a whim, human instinct is to flee danger, not confront it.

b) The young man was being stabbed dozens of times in the throat, he wasn't going to make it even if someone was able to stop the attacker from decapitating him. A witness said that after five or six stabs, the victim made no more noise, which indicates that his windpipe had been punctured or severed. He would die of asphyxiation or drown in his own blood quite quickly.

c) The witnesses did the right thing in trapping the man inside the bus. This allowed the police to catch him rather effortlessly, again, a very brave gesture. They did everything in their power to keep him inside, even disabling the bus. Quick thinking on the bus driver's part.

d) Things like this have been going on since the dawn of time. The world isn't getting worse, there's just more people in it so these events will occur more often. Sad, but true.

Anyway, this story turns my stomach. I once saw a violent car wreck that ended gruesomely, but nothing like this. My thoughts go out with the victim Tim McLean, his family, and friends.

 

[Eli26]

I think you guys need to realize a few things:

a) It's important to save those who can be saved. Everyone got off the bus, then three men went back to try to see what state the young man was in. It was at that point that they saw the attacker beheading him. There's nothing cowardly about that. You don't rush an attacker armed with a potentially deadly weapon on a whim, human instinct is to flee danger, not confront it.

b) The young man was being stabbed dozens of times in the throat, he wasn't going to make it even if someone was able to stop the attacker from decapitating him. A witness said that after five or six stabs, the victim made no more noise, which indicates that his windpipe had been punctured or severed. He would die of asphyxiation or drown in his own blood quite quickly.

c) The witnesses did the right thing in trapping the man inside the bus. This allowed the police to catch him rather effortlessly, again, a very brave gesture. They did everything in their power to keep him inside, even disabling the bus. Quick thinking on the bus driver's part.

d) Things like this have been going on since the dawn of time. The world isn't getting worse, there's just more people in it so these events will occur more often. Sad, but true.

Anyway, this story turns my stomach. I once saw a violent car wreck that ended gruesomely, but nothing like this. My thoughts go out with the victim Tim McLean, his family, and friends.

Very well thought out, and intelligently constructed. Couldn't have said it better myself. Seriously, I couldn't have.

 

[Amir]

I think you guys need to realize a few things:

a) It's important to save those who can be saved. Everyone got off the bus, then three men went back to try to see what state the young man was in. It was at that point that they saw the attacker beheading him. There's nothing cowardly about that. You don't rush an attacker armed with a potentially deadly weapon on a whim, human instinct is to flee danger, not confront it.
.

They way I read the article the person sitting in front of the victim and attacker heard a scream and then everyone just left the poor guy to the attacker and got of the bus. They did not try to go back in for the guy they barricaded the door of the bus from the outside while holding some 'weapons'. Who knows once the first scream was heard if the people rushed the man the victim might have made it.

And no human instinct has two sides not just to flee danger, people will either
have a fight or flight responce to a situation, unfortunately for the victim everyone on that bus had a flight instinct and they all took off, I find that cowardly.

 

[agen_kolar]

Don't just read one article, you'll never get the whole scoop. The attacker had stabbed the man several times in the throat before even a few people realized what was happening, the people at the front of the bus didn't know what was going on until the bus driver had pulled over and was getting everyone off. Once everyone was off the bus, a truck driver, a passenger, and the bus driver got back on to see what they could do. At that point, the attacker rushed at them and swiped the knife at them. They then blocked the door when he went back to the victim to prevent his escape. A job well done, in my opinion. They prevented anyone else from being injured or killed.

 

[King Darkness]

Damn, thats hardcore. Thats why I never take the bus.

 

[preeny101]

They way I read the article the person sitting in front of the victim and attacker heard a scream and then everyone just left the poor guy to the attacker and got of the bus. They did not try to go back in for the guy they barricaded the door of the bus from the outside while holding some 'weapons'. Who knows once the first scream was heard if the people rushed the man the victim might have made it.

And no human instinct has two sides not just to flee danger, people will either
have a fight or flight responce to a situation, unfortunately for the victim everyone on that bus had a flight instinct and they all took off, I find that cowardly.

I don't know if we should judge those actions as cowardly until we've been in those situations. I grew up in a pretty rough neighborhood and I once saw someone getmaimed with a meat cleaver. Guess what I did? I RAN! And I was a tough kid. In those situations, instinct takes over and your first instinct is to get yourself out of danger.

 

[agen_kolar]

I don't know if we should judge those actions as cowardly until we've been in those situations. I grew up in a pretty rough neighborhood and I once saw someone getmaimed with a meat cleaver. Guess what I did? I RAN! And I was a tough kid. In those situations, instinct takes over and your first instinct is to get yourself out of danger.

Exactly. Most people would never rush a man with a weapon, not at least without planning what to do beforehand. There was no time for planning, the guy was shredding this kid to bits.

 

[Voorhees27]

Exactly. Most people would never rush a man with a weapon, not at least without planning what to do beforehand. There was no time for planning, the guy was shredding this kid to bits.

This is true guys I would never refer to a woman and her 6 year old as cowardly (not that Amir meant it that way) she was sitting right next to the animal. Consider the scene, its dark, most people are sleeping and then BAMMM! it happens and the poor kid is dead within seconds.

It turns out the killer is from my home town, this is even more disturbing than ever before. Edmonton's economy is booming right now because of the oil sands therefore flooding our city with outsiders, the industry also caters to massive illegal drug use. I'm not saying that this monster is connected with the industry but thought it was relevant to the current status here in Edmonton.

Therapists say that he was definetly on some very bad drugs that caused him to lash out. Its getting very violent out in the streets, a man was murdered just a block away from our home the morning me and my wife returned from Orlando.

This whole story just keeps playing out over and over again in my head, I can't get it out!

 

[Amir]

Don't just read one article, you'll never get the whole scoop. The attacker had stabbed the man several times in the throat before even a few people realized what was happening, the people at the front of the bus didn't know what was going on until the bus driver had pulled over and was getting everyone off. Once everyone was off the bus, a truck driver, a passenger, and the bus driver got back on to see what they could do. At that point, the attacker rushed at them and swiped the knife at them. They then blocked the door when he went back to the victim to prevent his escape. A job well done, in my opinion. They prevented anyone else from being injured or killed.

Yeah, I just read the one article, and if what your saying is true then your right, the people did the right thing. It’s still a very ^^^^ed up situation.

And Voorhees27 I can see where your coming from, a lot of money and working in the oil sands/rigs (from what I've heard) can be very hard on a person...add some crazy drugs into the mix and you have a recipe for disaster.

 

[Anzik]

This is why I always wear a belt with a nice size buckle when traveling, as it makes a nice distance weapon. A rolled up magazine works well with some Escrima training behind it.

 

[JustinLuck]

These articles go into a lot more detail. The victim's mother was on an Alaskan cruise at the time.


https://www.ctv.ca/servlet/ArticleN...1/Manitoba_bus_080731/20080731?hub=TopStories

https://www.cbc.ca/canada/story/2008/08/01/stabbing-victim.html