Transformers: Revenge of the Fallen

[paulaura]

I really enjoyed it, but I did think the first one was better.

 

[Darth Snoopy]

I enjoyed TF2 as did my nieces.

It was a fun movie for us and we had a great time together.

 

[Chimera 1]

To the "racism" - there is none. Broad generalizations are constantly being used to get the audience to identify character types. The twins are not any different than Will Smith and Martin Lawrence spouting the same tough guy gangsta-isms in Bad Boys. Arguably they should be even more offensive because those guys actually are black.
Bottom line is people do talk like that. There's no negative cannotation to it. The "we don't read much" line is in reference to an ancient language that's unreadable to almost everyone.
This isn't any more racist than ninja turtles using surfer lingo.

To emphasis your point a little further. One of the voice actors who played the twins was black. So with that being said, the two voice actors played the roles how they wanted to play the roles. They were in a room looking at each other while doing the voices so the "racism" thing goes right out the window where it belongs. They played off of one another and could have changed things if they felt it went to far.

 

[DarthNeil]

Well I'm getting the full impact in just over two hours...

 

[cerealkeller]

I think for me I was disappointed with ROTF because I was thoroughly entertained by #1. I liked the characters (Sam, his parents and more importantly, Bumblebee, Optimus, Barricade, etc.) and the action seemed EPIC. When it slow mowed, you knew you were going to get something awesome that sticks with you (Optimus punching Bonecrusher, Iron Hide doing his flip in the street, etc.). ROTF just didn't have that effect on me. The action, while there was a lot of it, just seemed lazy, nothing that stood out as instantly striking me as awesome. I wanted a few more "cool" moments like Optimus tackling Bonecrusher off the bridge, landing, then the POV of a kid and his Mom. Moments that you just geek over.

For the next, cut out non essential human characters please like roommate, Jon Tuturro, etc and give characters like Iron Hide, Ratchet, Sideswipe something to do and I don't know, a line here and there. You know, make THE TRANSFORMERS characters. They are kind of the namesake of the movie and all.

 

[Nuka Cola Kidd]

One word from me...Epic..Way better then the first! I have to say all those complaining and starting controversy over the twins are idiots! They were amazing and not in the slightest "racist," just really fun to watch! The whole cast was amazing! Megan Fox really surprised me, she acted a thousand times better then in the first. And those complaining about the length, i just have to ask... what movie were you watching? I didnt want it to end. Loved everything about it. Critics can suck on Devestators balls, cause they are just people who want to be on the production side of the industry to make movies like this but can't cause they have a stick stuck up their ass from "art fillms"

I find it funny people liking the first one better when they were prolly complaining about the human screen time in the first..they got more robots and now they say the first is better? Ha! Losers.

Score another one for Michael Bay.

Optimus and and the Twins stole the show.

P.s. Those saying the plot was weak...how?

First Movie - The allspark must be found before Megatron finds it.

*dont click if you havent seen it*

Spoiler

Second - The shard, Visions, Fallen Primes, Multiple countries scope, A better look at cybertron. A Pretender, Matrix of Leadership and Sam dying to save Optimus....all those wrapped in a story are a thousand times better just the linear one from the first.

 

[The Ween]

I heard the critics panned it. They said it sucked. I have no interest in seeing that movie.

I never go by what critics say because most hate anything Sci-Fi anyway. If I think I'll like it, I go see it. My own judgement hasn't failed me much, but then I don't go to the movies to gain knowledge, see God, improve my life or to see a work of art. I go to be entertained. I don't expect anything more than that.

 

[The Ween]

To emphasis your point a little further. One of the voice actors who played the twins was black. So with that being said, the two voice actors played the roles how they wanted to play the roles. They were in a room looking at each other while doing the voices so the "racism" thing goes right out the window where it belongs. They played off of one another and could have changed things if they felt it went to far.

From the voice actor:

Actor Reno Wilson, who is black, voices Mudflap. Tom Kenny, the white actor behind SpongeBob SquarePants, voices Skids.
Wilson said Wednesday that he never imagined viewers might consider the twins to be racial caricatures. When he took the role, he was told that the alien robots learned about human culture through the Web and that the twins were "wannabe gangster types."
"It's an alien who uploaded information from the Internet and put together the conglomeration and formed this cadence, way of speaking and body language that was accumulated over X amount of years of information and that's what came out," the 40-year-old actor said. "If he had uploaded country music, he would have come out like that."
It's not fair to assume the characters are black, he said.
"It could easily be a Transformer that uploaded Kevin Federline data," Wilson said. "They were just like posers to me."

Btw......the media is now picking up on this because of a few critical viewers blogging about it.

https://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090625/ap_en_mo/us_film_transformers_jar_jar_again

 

[gabberjawa]

Few critical viewers? It's been mentioned on every review I've read since seeing the film, including every review at aintitcool (who are geeks, and unanimously panned the film, if anyone is still clinging to the 'it's just a popcorn film' angle), ebert, and the peter travers piece someone linked earlier.

 

[A.L.I.E.N]

I just thought it was funny not that harmful or racist! People these days can be so sensitive about these issues.

 

[Valfar]

"But if they're alien robots, she continued, "why do they talk like bad black stereotypes?"

A quote from some angry black panther lady in that link in the above post...Thats pretty funny since i have heard black people talk like that many of times in black movies as well to boot...Man, the racial thing spreads like wildfire in the U.S.

And i am sure White Chicks the movie was not stereotyping at all lol..nah! pffttt.

That woman needs a box in the jaws.

 

[Dusty]

Saw it last night and I enjoyed it for what it was. True, not nearly as much as I like the first (I'll probably only see this one twice in the theaters - and only because we weren't able to get tickets to the IMAX screening this time around). But it was fun, which is what I wanted. There were moments of brilliance... followed immediately by classic Michael Bay "WTF?" moments (the ass? the dogs humping? etc). But I didn't think that most of the stuff people are complaining about was that bad (the mom was great, Devestator's balls fit the character - he was made out of wrecking ball machines after all - and the twins weren't THAT bad... in fact, I can definitely agree with Ween's quote, as it seems like they were just posers trying to fit in with the current culture).

There could have EASILY been 40 minutes trimmed off of it and it would have been much much much better. But who really expects Bay to have that kind of restraint? If you do, well, you probably shouldn't be going to see any of his movies anyway

The dialogue and plot got off to a very bumpy start at the beginning, but got a little better later on in the film. And Shia was GREAT. Say what you will about him as a person, but I think we can all agree that these movies would be much worse without him as an actor (no matter how bad or good you think the movies are to begin with ).

Anyway, Bay certainly knows how to blow stuff up and make people look good while doing it. If you look at that as his ultimate goal, he scored a big one with Transformers 2!

But since I definitely think that with just a few tweaks here and there it would be so much better, I'll give it a 7/10. It succeeded at being what it's TRYING to be, but it didn't succeed as well as the first one. It's not trying to be a 'thinker' - like some other big-budget action movies recently that I decline to comment on, which failed miserably at being 'thinkers' AND at being 'popcorn'.

 

[MaulFan]

And Shia was GREAT. Say what you will about him as a person, but I think we can all agree that these movies would be much worse without him as an actor (no matter how bad or good you think the movies are to begin with ).

I love Shia as an actor, I think he's very niche in what roles he can play, though admittedly I've only seen him in TF and Indy, maybe Eagle Eye was a different type of role, but in that niche, he is very genuine and entertaining, I find his performances very natural and believable.

 

[The Mike]

Three Strikes against this movie. 1: Too Long, 2: Too many missed opportunities, 3: Way too much forced humor. I still rated it higher though than most. I gave it an 8/10 mainly because I knew what I was getting into before I got in.

 

[gabberjawa]

Transformers 2 = the kid in this photo

 

[Dusty]

Nothing really wrong with that - she's real purdy. But did she do something to her lips? They looked bigger in this movie than the first. Like, caricature-ish.

 

[MaulFan]

Granted there was the one running in the desert shot of Megan, but I thought the visual sexuality was quite toned down in this one.

 

[TheObsoleteMan]

I've heard a lot of complaints abot the forced humor, I myself found much of it moronic (except for the mom, she was great), but the rest of the theater was eating it up with a spoon. I understand why it's there, without it you'd probably lose a good chunk of the non-geek audience.

 

[MaulFan]

I enjoyed the laughs, I got a good chuckle when they were in the hanger and Lennox was whispering to Prime about his plan I wish Lennox could get as much screen time as Sam, I think he's a cool character.

 

[Dusty]

I enjoyed the laughs, I got a good chuckle when they were in the hanger and Lennox was whispering to Prime about his plan I wish Lennox could get as much screen time as Sam, I think he's a cool character.

I also would not mind that... and not only because the character is cool ... Josh is good eye-candy for the women, since the men get Megan (and the female decepticon in this one)