UFC, etc.

[Devil_666]

Well, I'm much happier with Belfort vs Franklin. Wish it could be at 185 though.

I don't think Franklin wants any part of the 185 division. I wonder why!?

Oh.. now I remember.


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Paul Daley, Ben Rothwell, Chase Gormley, Paul Buentello, Dan Lauzon, Rafaello “Tractor” Oliveira has all been signed to UFC contracts.

Mark Hominick, L.C. Davis, and Javier Vazquez have all been signed to WEC contracts.

When asked about Affliction heavyweights Tim Sylvia and Andrei Arlovski, White said he had no interest in re-signing either at this time.

 

[bumblebee]

Glad to see Hendo is gonna get his rematch agianst Silva.

 

[Devil_666]

We did EVERYTHING to make this deal happen. We didn't hold back on anything. We gave everything. Fedor doesnt want to fight the best. We were willing to make a deal at almost any cost. Everything that we thought was a sticking point we fixed. M-1's request is like Brett Favre doing a deal with a team saying "We're going be 50% partners". The fans want to see Fedor vs. Lesnar. It's my job to make this fight happen. I'm over the deal. Fedor got offered an assload of money....he can fight sambo every Thursday night for all I care. Co-promotion with M-1 is impossible, it'll never happen. But the deal's not dead. They can call me.

 

[sscalltheway]

I really don't wanna see Maia go against Silva. It's only b/c of Leites.

 

[kobayashi93]

I don't think Franklin wants any part of the 185 division. I wonder why!?

Oh.. now I remember.

Depending on what Silva does to Forrest, Franklin might want to cut to 170. Even if Silva loses, Machida beat him bad too. Franklin is in a hole when it comes to either title.

 

[sscalltheway]

Depending on what Silva does to Forrest, Franklin might want to cut to 170. Even if Silva loses, Machida beat him bad too. Franklin is in a hole when it comes to either title.

Agreed, so is Wandy. That's the reason they keep talking about a unnecesary 195 lb weight class.

 

[Devil_666]

Depending on what Silva does to Forrest, Franklin might want to cut to 170. Even if Silva loses, Machida beat him bad too. Franklin is in a hole when it comes to either title.

GSP!? 170 ain't looking too good either. HW = Vanilla Gorilla Brock Lesnar. F' it.. I think Rich Franklin should cut off his legs and just try 155.

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Josh Barnett's second sample (B) came back positive for the same crap: 2a-methyl-5a-androstan-3a-ol-17-one -- a metabolite of Drostanolone.

Not sure if you guys saw it but Josh was saying he was upset that Affliction folded and called off the fight after his first urine sample (A) came back positive for 2a-methyl-5a-androstan-3a-ol-17-one -- a metabolite of Drostanolone. Josh thought Afflicition should've waited for the second sample (B) because Josh said the first positive result was a mistake.

Guess not.

Here.. found the actual press release from Shannon Hooper, president of Excel Sports Management, on behalf of Josh Barnett.

“The media has reported that Mixed Martial Arts Heavyweight fighter Josh Barnett would not be eligible to fight Fedor Emelianenko at Affliction Trilogy as he was denied his California license due to an alleged positive test for 2α-methyl-5α-androstan-3α-ol-17-one, which is purportedly a metabolite of a banned substance. Mr. Barnett was shocked at these allegations and was extremely disappointed to learn that Affliction had made the hasty decision to cancel the August 1st event in its entirety. Mr. Barnett vehemently denies intentionally ingesting any banned substances in preparation for the August 1st fight and he is looking forward to presenting his case to the California State Athletic Commission.

In the meantime, Mr. Barnett has yet to learn of the results of the B sample testing and he has not received any of the documentation that provides further details of the alleged positive sample despite numerous requests. In fact, the documentation that Mr. Barnett has received raises serious questions about the integrity of the sample and the validity of the results themselves.

Notice "intentionally ingesting any banned substances" which essentially means it's possible that Barnett could've unintentionally ingested a banned substance from over the counter products through cross contamination, etc. But here's the thing: This is Barnett's second official drug test failure and third drug test failure overall (he submitted a urine sample that came back positive before he was busted in the Couture fight but since it was part of an investigation about steroid use in MMA he didn't face any punishment). So 3 times in Josh Barnett's career as a fighter he's tested positive for steroids. Seriously.. how much bad luck can one guy have with over the counter vitamins and protein shakes before it becomes obvious that dude is a steroid monkey!?

 

[sscalltheway]

I'm bored so why don't we list our top 5 or 10 favorite fighters and least favortie fighters.

 

[Devil_666]

UFC 100 did 1.72 million PPV Buys.

 

[sscalltheway]

UFC 100 did 1.72 million PPV Buys.

Damn dude, that's a record right? I mean for the UFC.

 

[bumblebee]

I'm bored so why don't we list our top 5 or 10 favorite fighters and least favortie fighters.

My Favs

1)Hendo
2)GSP
3)Guida
4)Rampage

 

[sscalltheway]

Mine are:


Favs: Frank Mir, Josh Koscheck, GSP, Melvin Guillard, Forrest Griffin, Nate Marquardt, Rampage, Miguel Torres, Dan Henderson, and Frankie Edgar.

Dislikes: Lesnar, BJ Penn, The Diaz Brothers, and Rich Clementi. At the moment.

 

[Devil_666]

Must be nice to have someone duck fights FOR you. smh.

 

[bumblebee]

Now what you dont see in this picture is a certian MMA expert cupping the nuts of his beloved Fedor but rest assured its happening.

 

[nash]

Mine:

Penn
Mir
Liddell
Rampage
Hendo

 

[nash]

What do you guys think about the Ken-flo text thing?

First he completely denied even sending BJ's camp a text...but recently he admitted that he DID send a text but it was about Roger Huerta greasing and not GSP. Why would he text BJ's camp about Huerta when Penn has nothing to do with him ?

IMO Ken-flo is a lying ^^^^^.

As a Penn fan, i admit he does go over the top on his pre-fight trash talks sometimes, which goes to personal levels with the opponent. But I still think it is part psychological and part hype for the fight. Aside from that Ive never known him to be a liar. so Im looking at Ken-flo and his back-peddling isnt doing him any good.

 

[kobayashi93]

Fighters I like: All time, without question, is Evan Tanner. I was heartbroken at his last two UFC losses, and I was stunned when I read of his death. Then Randy, Cro Cop, Liddell, Tito, Belfort. Imo the old LHW division was the most exciting period in MMA. When it was the Couture/Ortiz/Belfort/Liddell show that is.

Fighters I hate: All time, without question, is Rich Franklin. I hate how he was a successful LHW that dropped to MW to beat a guy he had already demolished to win the title. Then he has two of the weakest title defenses (imo), and everybody thinks he is the best MW in the world. Thank god for Anderson Silva. Other than that I really don't hate any other fighters.

I'm certainly not a Florian fan. He says he is skill for skill better than BJ...ridiculous.

Must be nice to have someone duck fights FOR you. smh.

As much as your pics/gifs enrage me, you have mad photoshop skillz. Are you an artist or something?

 

[Devil_666]

What do you guys think about the Ken-flo text thing?

First he completely denied even sending BJ's camp a text...but recently he admitted that he DID send a text but it was about Roger Huerta greasing and not GSP. Why would he text BJ's camp about Huerta when Penn has nothing to do with him ?

I'm assuming you're talking about the interview from SI.com right!?

Penn maintains that in the lead-up to his UFC 94 bout with St. Pierre, Florian sent a text to someone in his camp to warn him that G.S.P. might be greased up when they met in the Octagon. Florian initially denied ever sending such a text, but admits now that he did mention greasing to the Penn camp, only not in regards to St. Pierre, but one of Florian's own previous opponents.

"One of the reasons I didn't want to get into explaining that was because I don't want to be the guy who starts accusing people of greasing. I don't want to be the guy making excuses or anything like that. But since B.J. keeps pressuring that issue and talking about it, fine, [Roger] Huerta is who I was talking about if they want the story. It wasn't about Georges."

I think it's the wording from Ben Fowlkes that I highlighted that's confusing you. Notice Florian never says himself that he sent a text message to "BJ's camp". He simple says he sent a text message to someone.

BJ Penn claims it was sent to David Weintraub (who backs up that claim on video). David Weintraub does freelance work for a company that in turn does freelance work for the UFC. I'm not really sure how he could be considered part of "BJ's camp" if he really is the guy who Florian text messeged!? And not only that, check out this quote:

Penn’s boxing coach, Jason Parillo, said the incident was the manifestation of warnings he received from a man identified by the Penn camp during questioning as UFC employee David Weintraub

Parillo doesn't say "a member of our camp". So even by Penn and Parillo's account the message was not sent to Penn's camp or a member of Penn's camp.

As a Penn fan, i admit he does go over the top on his pre-fight trash talks sometimes, which goes to personal levels with the opponent. But I still think it is part psychological and part hype for the fight. Aside from that Ive never known him to be a liar. so Im looking at Ken-flo and his back-peddling isnt doing him any good.

Actually things like this make BJ Penn look bad. All his little antics make him look bad. He looks like a cry baby/spoiled little rich kid who cries when he loses. And his pre-fight trash talk makes him joke when he says crap like "to the death Georges" and "He's (GSP) gonna fold and he's gonna quit" and then after 4 rounds of ass whooping Penn refuses to continue and quits.

And before you say he didn't quit his corner did: When you stand in your corner inbetween rounds, arms up and head against the cage not responding to the doctor (checking to see if you're ok) OR your cornermen, that's quitting. It was obvious he didn't want to fight anymore. Which makes ALL the pre-fight comments that Penn made more hilarious.

And about lying, c'mon man. Hype or not, Penn blatantly lied about this whole text message crap like 3 times. First he said it was an e-mail from Florian to Penn himself. Then it was an e-mail to Rudy Valentino, and then it turned into a text message to David Weintraub.

Interesting things:

To my knowledge Kenny Florian has never stated WHO he sent that text message to.

No actual text message has ever surfaced.

David Weintraub, the guy who supposedly received that text message just happens to be the same guy who was initially named as the one who tipped off BJ Penn about GSP greasing before their fight. At that time, Florians name was never brought up. During the NSAC hearing about the incident, Florians name was never brought up.

Bottomline, it's all BS without evidence. And like most BS, there is zero evidence. You'd think a person would definitely keep a text message like that for future reference if they were gonna spill the beans about it to so many people. BS.

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As much as your pics/gifs enrage me, you have mad photoshop skillz. Are you an artist or something?

Thanks for the compliment! Not an artist on a professional level.

 

[nash]

I'm assuming you're talking about the interview from SI.com right!?



I think it's the wording from Ben Fowlkes that I highlighted that's confusing you. Notice Florian never says himself that he sent a text message to "BJ's camp". He simple says he sent a text message to someone.

BJ Penn claims it was sent to David Weintraub (who backs up that claim on video). David Weintraub does freelance work for a company that in turn does freelance work for the UFC. I'm not really sure how he could be considered part of "BJ's camp" if he really is the guy who Florian text messeged!? And not only that, check out this quote:



Parillo doesn't say "a member of our camp". So even by Penn and Parillo's account the message was not sent to Penn's camp or a member of Penn's camp.



Actually things like this make BJ Penn look bad. All his little antics make him look bad. He looks like a cry baby/spoiled little rich kid who cries when he loses. And his pre-fight trash talk makes him joke when he says crap like "to the death Georges" and "He's (GSP) gonna fold and he's gonna quit" and then after 4 rounds of ass whooping Penn refuses to continue and quits.

And before you say he didn't quit his corner did: When you stand in your corner inbetween rounds, arms up and head against the cage not responding to the doctor (checking to see if you're ok) OR your cornermen, that's quitting. It was obvious he didn't want to fight anymore. Which makes ALL the pre-fight comments that Penn made more hilarious.

And about lying, c'mon man. Hype or not, Penn blatantly lied about this whole text message crap like 3 times. First he said it was an e-mail from Florian to Penn himself. Then it was an e-mail to Rudy Valentino, and then it turned into a text message to David Weintraub.

Interesting things:

To my knowledge Kenny Florian has never stated WHO he sent that text message to.

No actual text message has ever surfaced.

David Weintraub, the guy who supposedly received that text message just happens to be the same guy who was initially named as the one who tipped off BJ Penn about GSP greasing before their fight. At that time, Florians name was never brought up. During the NSAC hearing about the incident, Florians name was never brought up.

Bottomline, it's all BS without evidence. And like most BS, there is zero evidence. You'd think a person would definitely keep a text message like that for future reference if they were gonna spill the beans about it to so many people. BS.

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I just read from the UFC 101 conference call that Kenflo addressed the issue himself. Saying that he did in fact text Weintraub about someone greasing, but it was about 'huerta' and not gsp.

I labeled Weintraub as "part of BJ's camp" because I didnt know how else to reference him. I know he isnt really part of their camp, but he is friends with BJ's camp and was there with them hanging out for whatever reason.

Im sure youve also seen the video of Weintraub admiting that Florian did send him a text to tip off that 'GSP' was a greaser etc? What would Weintraub have to gain by lying alongside of BJ? If he isnt even part of their camp, it makes it more unlikely that he would have anything to gain from lying. Florian admits he texted Weintraub about someone greasing, and Penn is the one who has that very person on video saying that Florian texted him about GSP greasing. Imo Penn has more evidence to prove himself than Florian does at this point.

If you really think about it, Penn lying about "kenflo's" text is pretty dumb. Why would he choose Kenflo out of everyone else? Because he already knew before the GSP fight that Kenflo was his next opponent so he wanted to start ^^^^ early?

If you can find the audio of the UFC 101 conference can you link me to it? I read the exerpts on a site, but of course now that I want to find it I cant.

 

[Devil_666]

I just read from the UFC 101 conference call that Kenflo addressed the issue himself. Saying that he did in fact text Weintraub about someone greasing, but it was about 'huerta' and not gsp.

Ahhh.. just found an article about it.

If you really think about it, Penn lying about "kenflo's" text is pretty dumb. Why would he choose Kenflo out of everyone else? Because he already knew before the GSP fight that Kenflo was his next opponent so he wanted to start ^^^^ early?

Basically. Why didn't Penn mention Florian's name during the whole NSAC hearing for Penn's greasing accusations against GSP!? Penn supposedly knew it was Florian BEFORE the actual fight with GSP. So why exclude that important piece of info until much later!? Makes no sense if it were true. It's just more BS from a guy who should focus more on training so he doesn't gas as opposed to playing head games with guys focused on training so THEY don't gas. You know?

If you can find the audio of the UFC 101 conference can you link me to it? I read the exerpts on a site, but of course now that I want to find it I cant.

https://www.ufc.com/multicast/

The only conference call on there is the Friday one with Dana though (talks about Fedor deal fall out, Tito and Vitor etc). Can't find the one from Tuesday. Are you sure there was a video/audio of it?