UFC, etc.

[hairlesswookiee]

I can't wait for the rematch.

Heck yeah.

~~~Now I'm counting down the days until UFC 107 for Penn's next fight. Anyone know of any awesome BJ Penn shirts??? Is he gonna have a cool walk out shirt for this one??

 

[Darth Caedus]

Yea, Rua totally won the fight, don't know what the judges were watching.

If you notice closely, while Dana White is talking to Rua after the fight, you can read his lips saying "YOU WON THE FIGHT" like three times.......which I think is hilarious. Did they wanted to give the fight to Machida to set up the sequel.....??

 

[LOTRFan]

WTF happened to Dana White, he gained a LOT of weight!?

 

[nash]

Heck yeah.

~~~Now I'm counting down the days until UFC 107 for Penn's next fight. Anyone know of any awesome BJ Penn shirts??? Is he gonna have a cool walk out shirt for this one??

Hell yeah, im stoked for 107. Fitch + Alves is a great addition to the card as well.

Penn has a few shirts out, I have all of them and I love the designs but they may be a bit rough to wear for people not from hawaii since all of them have "TEAM HAWAII" plastered on the front and back. For me, im more than happy to rep my home town and penn at the same time. I think we'll find out what his 107 walk out shirt will be a month or few weeks before the fight.

Yea, Rua totally won the fight, don't know what the judges were watching.

If you notice closely, while Dana White is talking to Rua after the fight, you can read his lips saying "YOU WON THE FIGHT" like three times.......which I think is hilarious. Did they wanted to give the fight to Machida to set up the sequel.....??

Yeah, Dana made it clear in the post fight press conf that he thought Shogun won the fight, but also made it clear that the judges could give a ^^^^ what even Dana thinks about the decision. Three judges were assigned to score the bout and all 3 decided that Machida won 3 rounds to 2. How can it be fixed or a fluke if all 3 had the same view of the fight?

I doubt they gave Machida the win just to get a rematch going. I think they'd make way more money on a Shogun vs Silva fight instead.

 

[bumblebee]

I stand corrected.

I just watched the fight with the volume muted and IMO Machida won. Shogun countered great but it was almost always low to the legs and like Nash said you cant win the belt with leg kicks.

 

[Platty]

Sounds to me Shogun won and it was a very dubious result. I'm used to it in boxing, not UFC.

Puts me in mind of Carl Froch getting the decision over Dirrell last week in the super six boxing tournament, I guess you've gotta beat the champ more convincingly to take his belt.

 

[Devil_666]

Like ive said, machida landed more strikes to the face and SOLID knees to the body. shogun landed more kicks to the leg and body. If shogun had got one or two take downs, or a few punches to the face, he would have definitely won this fight.

sorry but leg kicks don't win fights. take downs and strikes to the face do.

Was this a close fight? HELL YES.

But I dont see how you guys see it as robbery. robbery imo is shogun winning 4 rounds to 1. it was easily 2 to 2...with one round going either way.

Agreed. Not only that, Machida stuffed EVERY takedown attempt from Shogun. Every single one failed miserably. It was essentially a glorified kick boxing match tbh. Close fight but imo to be the champ you have to beat the champ. And I can't say Shogun beat Machida to earn the title. Close fights that go to decision should always go to the Champs. That's why I think Rampage was robbed vs. Griffin.

 

[NASEDO]

Agreed. Not only that, Machida stuffed EVERY takedown attempt from Shogun. Every single one failed miserably. It was essentially a glorified kick boxing match tbh. Close fight but imo to be the champ you have to beat the champ. And I can't say Shogun beat Machida to earn the title. Close fights that go to decision should always go to the Champs. That's why I think Rampage was robbed vs. Griffin.

?????? So leg Kicks dont count. And Forest won on leg kicks. And the dumb you gotta beat the champ??? Thats so lame, so Shogun can only win by KO???? You guys are so bias.

https://fightmetric.com/fights/Machida-Shogun.html

Shogun landed 82 strikes out of 149.
Lyoto landed 42 strikes out of 116.

Shogun had 55% accuracy
Lyoto had 36% accuracy

Shogun landed 17 shots to the head (12 power shots).
Lyoto landed 14 shots to the head (8 power shots).

Lyoto landed 24 shots to the body
Shogun landed 16 shots to the body

Shogun landed 49 leg kicks.
Lyoto landed 4 leg kicks.

Shogun landed 48 strikes from distance.
Lyoto landed 26 strikes from distance.

Shogun landed 34 strikes from the clinch.
Lyoto landed 16 strikes from the clinch.

Strikes landed per round;

Round 1

Total strikes:

Shogun: 19
Machida: 11


Round 2:

Shogun: 21
Machida: 7


Round 3:

Shogun: 19
Machida: 15


Round 4:

Shogun:10
Machida: 3


Round 5:

Shogun: 13
Machida: 6

 

[sscalltheway]

It was closer then people think. Overall I thin Shogun won but it was not a robbery. It was close on the feet but I think out of 5 rounds Shogun won three. A big factor people don't understand is that Shogun went for takedowns and was stoped everytime so that's points for Machida. Personally I think Shogun was hurt more times than Machida. Machida hit him with knees to the body that hurt him a lot and that one flurry of punches that put Shogun up against the fence.

Overall Shogun won but it was close and both fighters did really well. People think Shogun was robbed because they are not used to seeing Machida not look as dominant therefore they think Machida isn't winning. I think that if it's close to wear people say it could be a draw or they can't decide then it should always go to the champ.

I'm not happy with the decision but I'm not mad either. Neither fighter ended the fight and left it up to judges. That's the way it goes.

 

[Devil_666]

?????? So leg Kicks dont count. And Forest won on leg kicks. And the dumb you gotta beat the champ??? Thats so lame, so Shogun can only win by KO???? You guys are so bias.

WASEDO

 

[azurepred]

did anybody else see the prelims on spike? That stupid ^^^^ didn't come on like scheduled I'm sure they will show this main even on spike pretty soon, should be interesting.

I do agree that leg kicks do score points, but in this case, it sounds completely different than the Rampage fight. Now, I didnt see this fight, but after seeing the Ramp/forrest fight, I though it was extremely close and if Ramp didnt get his leg completely messed up in that fight, it prolly would have had a similar outcome to this one, but i guess i just have to see this one, hard to comment on a fight when just reading about it.

After Rua though, who else makes a good oppenent for Machida? I wish Ramp wasnt being such a douche about acting, cause that would be an extremely entertaining fight with Machida. I think Machida will hold the title for awhile unless Silva ever gets a shot.

 

[kobayashi93]

Just read the results. I'm very interested in seeing each fight. Looks like Mirgliatta was up to his usual routine.

 

[bumblebee]

did anybody else see the prelims on spike? That stupid ^^^^ didn't come on like scheduled I'm sure they will show this main even on spike pretty soon, should be interesting.

I do agree that leg kicks do score points, but in this case, it sounds completely different than the Rampage fight. Now, I didnt see this fight, but after seeing the Ramp/forrest fight, I though it was extremely close and if Ramp didnt get his leg completely messed up in that fight, it prolly would have had a similar outcome to this one, but i guess i just have to see this one, hard to comment on a fight when just reading about it.

After Rua though, who else makes a good oppenent for Machida? I wish Ramp wasnt being such a douche about acting, cause that would be an extremely entertaining fight with Machida. I think Machida will hold the title for awhile unless Silva ever gets a shot.

Little Nog.

 

[Darth Rage]

Like ive said, machida landed more strikes to the face and SOLID knees to the body. shogun landed more kicks to the leg and body. If shogun had got one or two take downs, or a few punches to the face, he would have definitely won this fight.

sorry but leg kicks don't win fights. take downs and strikes to the face do.

Was this a close fight? HELL YES.

But I dont see how you guys see it as robbery. robbery imo is shogun winning 4 rounds to 1. it was easily 2 to 2...with one round going either way.

I can't wait for the rematch.

QFT

If Shogun had gotten a takedown or two and thrown some punches to the head in the 4th and 5th he might have won. You don't become champ throwing leg kicks, especially when they don't appear to be effecting your opponent. Rampage could barely walk in the fight against Forest. Machida seemed relatively unphased by Shoguns kicks.

Close fight though, Shogun just didn't do enough.

 

[hairlesswookiee]

kicks, especially when they don't appear to be effecting your opponent. Rampage could barely walk in the fight against Forest. Machida seemed relatively unphased by Shoguns kicks.

Close fight though, Shogun just didn't do enough.

Exactly what I argued with my friend about. He thinks Rua won the fight because he was pressing the fight more and was constantly kicking Machida's legs. This reminded me of the Kimbo fight he just lost on TUF. Sure, the guy landed a dozen or so hits, but it doesn't matter if they aren't doing any damage.

I totally agree with what Nash already said, just because Machida didn't dominate the entire fight it doesn't mean he didn't fight well. Rua was just really prepared and aggressive which I don't recall seeing anyone else doing against Machida.


Oh, I've never heard of this guy until I saw the pre-fight weigh-ins. Ken Kinsbury is freaking ripped!!!

~~~Oh, and does anyone else think Machida looked a little pudgier than he usually does???

 

[nash]

was shopping around for some shirts and came across these today.

I don't know what to feel about this. I knew RVCA had sponsored Fedor in the past, but didnt think they'd actually put out product for him. I always like the fact that RVCA is more of a low key brand and not just an MMA specific brand like Silver Star, Tap Out, or Affliction. Must admit, the shirts look pretty nice, just wouldnt rep any of them.

 

[nash]

Cecil Peoples: "I believe Lyoto won the fight clearly"
https://www.cagereport.net/Cecil-Peoples-I-believe-Lyoto-won-the-fight-clearly.html

 

[devlinboy]

cecil peoples is a retard...not about this fight, but in general.

i think machida barely won this fight.

 

[hairlesswookiee]

Must admit, the shirts look pretty nice, just wouldnt rep any of them.

While I'm not a nutzswinger I do like watching some Fedor fights. Are these on their main site??? Might grab one of these along with a Penn shirt.

 

[kobayashi93]

Yeah, everyone knows Peoples sucks. It doesnt matter though, all three judges were in agreement. If Peoples had scored it 50-45, that would have been flaky imo.