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I don't know who would have been better for the role, It is pretty hard to imagine someone in it.

But Julianne was probably the worst choice for me, she was nothing at all like the character she was supposed to be playing. It isn't even about trying to look and sound like Foster, but Julianne did not feel like Clarice Starling at all.
It almost felt like a completely new character.
 
I just rewatched Chronicles of Riddick for the first time again in ages and I have to say that film is completely underrated. I know a lot of people hated Chronicles since it was a different genre of film than Pitch Black was. But IMO, Chronicles is both a better and more enjoyable flick than it's predecessor.

I's too bad that it did so badly in the box office because they were planning 2 more films afterword and it's been, what, 9 years since and we never got those...

I know I new flick is coming out in September but it's been a long time comin'. I hope a bunch of you go and support it. Supporting the franchise means there's a good chance will see more movies and even possibly more great games similar to Escape from Butcher Bay and Dark Athena.

And who wouldn't want that? :dunno

I think I'll add Kingdom Of The Crystal Skull to the underrated list as well. I think both TOD and KOTCS are very underrated and I honestly prefer both to The Last Crusade, which is still very good but IMO suffers from being too much like a more comedic Raiders remake.

I don't care if you're religious or not. You need to say a prayer and ask forgiveness for having an opinion like that. LC is considered by many to be the best in the trilogy.

KOTCS is an Indiana Jones abomination that should never have had life breathed into it.



Yep.... :lol
 
While I can't remember a great deal about the film itself, I loved the ending of T3, the idea that Judgement Day was going to happen regardless, and all John Connor did by sending the resistance back in time was delay it, I liked that idea.

Don't know if you can count this as a sequel (perhaps loose sequel) but I love Punisher: War Zone. First Punisher film to really feel like a Punisher film to me. Jane's version was awesome, but felt too much like a standard vigilante with a skull. Ray Stevenson just completely embodied the Punisher!
 
I totally agree I'm a big fan of war zone to be completely honest. I think Thomas Jane and his movie was pure trash, sure war zone was not a high calibre flick, but the truth is what punisher movie would be? Stevenson WAS the Punisher and the story reminded me of the MK /MAX Ennis stuff which went over most people's heads as campiness without self awareness. I love War Zone!
 
I totally agree I'm a big fan of war zone to be completely honest. I think Thomas Jane and his movie was pure trash, sure war zone was not a high calibre flick, but the truth is what punisher movie would be? Stevenson WAS the Punisher and the story reminded me of the MK /MAX Ennis stuff which went over most people's heads as campiness without self awareness. I love War Zone!

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While I can't remember a great deal about the film itself, I loved the ending of T3, the idea that Judgement Day was going to happen regardless, and all John Connor did by sending the resistance back in time was delay it, I liked that idea.

Don't know if you can count this as a sequel (perhaps loose sequel) but I love Punisher: War Zone. First Punisher film to really feel like a Punisher film to me. Jane's version was awesome, but felt too much like a standard vigilante with a skull. Ray Stevenson just completely embodied the Punisher!

Punisher Warzone is one of my favorite comic movies. The Punisher was just so great in it.

I know the violence in the movie is cartoony and cheesy at times, but I really liked it anyway.
One thing the movie was not was boring. The movie never stops being entertaining.
 
Has anyone mentioned Punisher:Warzone?

I think this sequel was superior to the Thomas Jane (and Dolph Lundgren) version.

Stevenson resembles the comic Castle much more accurately in my opinion. The movie showed off the vicious, ruthless side of the character and the script and villain were way better than the previous outings.

I wish HBO would jump on getting Stevenson back (after his awesome performance from ROME) and make a Punisher series.

Five Reasons why Punisher Warzone is an underrated Masterpiece:
https://www.cracked.com/quick-fixes/5-reasons-punisher-war-zone-underrated-masterpiece/

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Honestly i didnt enjoy War Zone. it may have been more faithful to the comics and stevenson does look exactly like the Punisher but i feel like the Punisher with Tom Jane is just a better movie overall. I never understood the hate for it, i saw alot of emotion in that movie, and i really liked it.
 
Honestly i didnt enjoy War Zone. it may have been more faithful to the comics and stevenson does look exactly like the Punisher but i feel like the Punisher with Tom Jane is just a better movie overall. I never understood the hate for it, i saw alot of emotion in that movie, and i really liked it.

I could understand your regular moviegoer hating it.
But I seriously don't get why comic fans hated it so much, I don't know what people were expecting. Seriously, they made a Punisher movie and we got a Punisher movie.

Some people were complaining about the over the top violence of the movie, but that is nothing new right now. I seriously didn't get the hate for the violence either.
 
I could understand your regular moviegoer hating it.
But I seriously don't get why comic fans hated it so much, I don't know what people were expecting. Seriously, they made a Punisher movie and we got a Punisher movie.

Some people were complaining about the over the top violence of the movie, but that is nothing new right now. I seriously didn't get the hate for the violence either.

Are you speaking in terms of War Zone or the Tom Jane movie?

In War Zone the violence was over the top but i didnt mind it, it went with what they were going for, if i remember correctly there was just alot of wierd $hi* going on i didnt care for. Not shure, mabey ill check it out and give it a rewatch!
 
Are you speaking in terms of War Zone or the Tom Jane movie?

In War Zone the violence was over the top but i didnt mind it, it went with what they were going for, if i remember correctly there was just alot of wierd $hi* going on i didnt care for. Not shure, mabey ill check it out and give it a rewatch!

War Zone .
 
I don't know if I mentioned Jaws 2 before, but it's definitely underrated, IMO. Not as good as the original of course, but still a very entertaining sequel and easily the other Jaws sequel worth anything.
 
Has anyone mentioned Punisher:Warzone?

I think this sequel was superior to the Thomas Jane (and Dolph Lundgren) version.

Stevenson resembles the comic Castle much more accurately in my opinion. The movie showed off the vicious, ruthless side of the character and the script and villain were way better than the previous outings.

I wish HBO would jump on getting Stevenson back (after his awesome performance from ROME) and make a Punisher series.

Five Reasons why Punisher Warzone is an underrated Masterpiece:
https://www.cracked.com/quick-fixes/5-reasons-punisher-war-zone-underrated-masterpiece/

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I don't care what anyone says . . . I had a blast at this movie in the theaters . . . I love this movie . . .
 
I enjoyed PWZ but I preferred the 2004 Punisher movie, even with some of the changes from the comic.
 
I could understand your regular moviegoer hating it.
But I seriously don't get why comic fans hated it so much, I don't know what people were expecting. Seriously, they made a Punisher movie and we got a Punisher movie.

Some people were complaining about the over the top violence of the movie, but that is nothing new right now. I seriously didn't get the hate for the violence either.

It was the comical tone of the film, in particular with the goofiness of the main villain that took me out of it.
 
The OTTness of PWZ hurt it for me, too. I still find it entertaining in a silly fun sort of way but it wasn't my ideal live-action Punisher film.
 
Funny, I just posted this in the SW Episode VII thread but it's more appropriate here:

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Robocop 2 has it's issues but it's a hell of a lot of fun.

The new electric blue Robo suit is awesome and mesmerizing in every scene. Some great action gags like him stepping out of the fiery police car after it flipped over due to multiple bazooka blasts, the bank shot, the FIRST movie to feature the "sniper gets shot in the eye through his own scope" (which was copied in not only Sniper but Saving Private Ryan!)

There are some poignant moments (all carried solely by Weller.) "Touch this." "Its cold." "They made this to honor him." And even when that stupid kid died he got to say, "Dying sucks, but you already know that, huh?" "Yes. I do...." I don't know that there was one single exchange in the entire 6+ hour SW prequel TRILOGY that matched any of those scenes.

There's some great comedy (again with the ads but also the news broadcasts.) "The nuclear reactor in the Amazon blows up and irradiates the world's largest natural rainforest. Environmentalists are calling it a disaster." "But don't they always?" :lol Plus the new prototypes have me in stitches every time I watch them unveiled.

And of course Robocain (or Robocop 2 as he's technically called) and the sheer unadulterated mayhem of the final act. Kind of the cyber version of King Kong run amuck.

They screw up some of the awesomeness of the first film of course, the city is clearly sillier and not the same one inhabited by **** Jones and Boddicker's gang. Robocop has absolutely zero personal connection to any of the villains, including Cain. He isn't really even phased by the fact that he gets disassembled at one point. He's really all business throughout the film save for those two scenes I mentioned above. The music pretty much sucks and sounds like something out of a 1970's CHiPs TV show. Not all the jokes strike gold (how many homicidal filthy mouthed little kids does one movie need), and apparently the savvy if slightly out of touch old man from the original is just pure evil now. But meh, I rarely think of sequels when watching predecessors. Robocop 1 is it's own thing and R2 is a fun continuation for some laughs and entertaining Robocarnage. Murphy ripping the brain out of Cain and smashing it on the pavement (and then punching the goo!) would have made Billy Bob of TNT's MonsterVision proud. :lecture

I remember watching it in the theater on opening weekend summer 1990 and having a blast.
 
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I always liked RoboCop 2 as well. It's nowhere near the original but still entertaining and RoboCain alone is worth the price of admission.
 
Enjoyed reading your review Khev, I enjoy Robocop 2, infact as a kid i saw part 2 more than part 1. I agree the first one is its own thing, a classic, and the 2nd has its good moments.

I Despise the 3rd one tho, it hasnt aged well, aside from some cool set pieces its embarresing.
 
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