Waht will the PZ PF do to the price of the PZ 12"?

[b24karrot]

So will the price jump or fall like a rock? Thoughts, discussion?

 

[King Darkness]

Nothing

But thnx for asking.

 

[DarkArtist81]

Nothing

But thnx for asking.

What he said.

 

[b24karrot]

Nothing

But thnx for asking.

Thanks King...as usual a well thought out answer.......

 

[King Darkness]

Thanks King...as usual a well thought out answer.......

 

[b24karrot]

You don't think completest will have to have both and drive the price up?

 

[King Darkness]

You don't think completest will have to have both and drive the price up?

Honestly no. 1/6 collectors who dont have a 1/6 zero by now have either given up hope of not having one or will get a PF to fill the hole in their heart.

I dont see many, in any at all, dropping $280 for the PF, and another $400 for the 1/6 figure.

 

[b24karrot]

Okay.............I can see that..........what about down the line though? Do you think it will affect the prices of the other Dead 12" pieces?

 

[King Darkness]

Okay.............I can see that..........what about down the line though? Do you think it will affect the prices of the other Dead 12" pieces?

Nope. Not all all.

PF and 1/6 collectors are to diverse to impact the prices of each medium.

Most 1/6ers are strictly 1/6. And the same can be said for PF collectors.

There are too few that invest heavily in both mediums to greatly affect prices.

 

[Patient Zero]

I do not see it increasing in value. It already commands a hefty amount. There will be a few people who buy the PF and get sucked into the 1/6 line, but I think those few will not push the price up. 400-500 bucks is already alot considering what you get with the 1/6 PZ. You are paying for the rarity, it is one of the weakest figures in the line. The real question is, What are people willing to pay for an extra arm for their PZ PF!

 

[furystorm]

I can honestly say that the Premium Format PZ sucked me into the 1/6 line of Dead figures. In the past three weeks, I have traded or outright bought my way into seven of them. And I'm off to order the Mall Santa after I finish reading up on the Freaks Board tonight. So, I will actually have one of each figure, minus the PZ of course.

So, I may be the one consumer SS was looking to influence toward the line by offering an extremely limited PZ PF. I do hope he retains his value however!

 

[thenammagazine]

Honestly no. 1/6 collectors who dont have a 1/6 zero by now have either given up hope of not having one or will get a PF to fill the hole in their heart.

I dont see many, in any at all, dropping $280 for the PF, and another $400 for the 1/6 figure.

I definitely see the PF creating interest in the line (as we see from Fury's post above). It might entice someone to start picking up more Dead figures. However, you're right in the value of the 1:6 PZ. He already fetches a hefty sum which has slowly gone down due to the economy but should go back up toward its normal $400 range once things pick up again. And with the total run of 400 for the PF, there really won't be this huge 1000-5000 person market seeking it anyway. Hell, for the price of that PF, you could negotiate your way into owning one of the 1:6 PZ's that pop up on ebaY anyway and possibly have some $$$ left over.

 

[Shai]

Who cares..........

 

[Warrior Alien]

I'm thinking that the price will drop on the 12" after the release of the PF. My reason is that I think people will say to themselves, "Why drop an ass load of change on a PZ 12" limited to 300 pieces when I can save up a little more and try to aquire an Ex PZ PF limited to 100 pieces?"

The limited run on the EX and Reg PF will bring demand of the 12" down. Watch and see...

 

[jbinny]

After recently trying to track down a PZ figure, I've decided that even with the economy in its current state, collectors aren't going to give up their favorite pieces without getting a significant chunk of change for them. That being said, I don't see 12" PZ figures dropping in price in the near future. Heck, the last sealed one that sold on ebay brought $520. On top of that, most collectors of the line are pretty dedicated to it and don't seem to part with the hard to find pieces very willingly.

12" PZ (sealed) - $500+
12" PZ (opened) - $250-500

PZ PF - $350-400
PZ PF exclusive - $400-??????

Those are just my predictions. Granted, it's still early and noone will know what the exclusive PF will bring so I left that wide open. I don't even want to speculate how high it could go.

 

[Patient Zero]

I like predictions.

PZ regular 300-400 not much increase as the core fans will not settle for a non EX.


PZ EX. 600-700 The flippers will sell off first and people will be buying worried that it will increase even more in value. In a years time , EX. will pull in 750-900. As these land in collectors hands, they will be harder to find.

Do I win a prize? Sideshow is sending me a dead figure for my last prediction!

for fun here was my sideshow prediction:

In the year 2020 zombies are going to be running Sideshow collectibles. They will market products for "The Alive" line of figures. Zombies will go Insane with the release of a Premium Format of "Born Uno" with an exclusive "pacifier". This turn of events will lead the zombies into turmoil so bad that it will allow the humans to retake control of the world!

 

[thenammagazine]

I'm thinking that the price will drop on the 12" after the release of the PF. My reason is that I think people will say to themselves, "Why drop an ass load of change on a PZ 12" limited to 300 pieces when I can save up a little more and try to aquire an Ex PZ PF limited to 100 pieces?"

The limited run on the EX and Reg PF will bring demand of the 12" down. Watch and see...

That's flawed logic. I don't think the edition size of the PF will have any effect at all on the price of the 1:6 version. Not only are they two completely different genres (meaning Premium Format vs. 12" action figure), but markets as well. While there will no doubt be some who will want to own both, they'll be few to the many who just want either statues or 1:6 figures. One just has to look at the SSE PFs and dios and compare them to the SSE 12" figures. One has not affected the other there either.

 

[Warrior Alien]

That's flawed logic.

Disagree with ya there...
Watch and see the 12" drop in price. Regardless of the genre (12" or PF) people are going to see the EXACT same figure in PF form that looks a hell of alot better and decide that's the one they want for their money. Yes, some people will want both... but for those who enjoy the Dead SERIES and want a scarce PZ, they'll choose the PF and drive the price down on the 12".

 

[galactiboy]

I don't think it will have much effect... PZ is a desirable figure and limited. While the PF is adding a 2nd PZ its a totally different format and shouldn't affect the other.

But, the original PZ has so much variability in price that its hard to predict a price. Seems usually one sells for around $300... but I've seen them up as high as $450, but then drop to around $250.

 

[thenammagazine]

I don't think it will have much effect... PZ is a desirable figure and limited. While the PF is adding a 2nd PZ its a totally different format and shouldn't affect the other.

But, the original PZ has so much variability in price that its hard to predict a price. Seems usually one sells for around $300... but I've seen them up as high as $450, but then drop to around $250.

The only reason the 12" has dropped in price ATM, is because of the economy. It usually fetched $400-$600 and will go right back to that point once things start to look better. As I stated earlier, the only effect the PF PZ will have on the 12" is bringing in interest to the line and potentially bringing another Dead collector on board rather than send a 1:6 collector away to PFs.

If that were the case, the PZ PF, at a complete ES of 400 would've sold out like hotcakes. While the Ex's 100 did (with a lot of flippers picking it up), it took a considerable time for the regular edition to sell out which ATM, is STILL fluctuating between In Stock and Wait List.

And again, anyone saying different, which is anyone besides the 65.38% who agree, only need look at the Universal SSE lines. The SSE dios and PFs have had absolutely no effect, positive or negative, on the 12" SSE line. And while the zombie genre does have a hardcore following, those are more appealing to the masses. So if one were to effect the other, we would definitely have seen it there.