Whedon discusses future Firefly hopes, says he turned down SW 7 for Avengers 2.

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It wouldn't be Firefly. Yes, other actors have chemistry. That's not what's at issue. The problem is that no other actors have the same chemistry as the original cast, and that was what made Firefly. I bet even the writers would be hard pressed to recreate what they did back then. The momentum is ancient history.

Firefly is over. People in a time and place that will not happen again. (And Rebecca Gayheart...seriously??? :yuck)
 
Yea, Joss fired her after shooting the pilot. Notice that Inara is rarely in the same shot as the others.

And yes, it will be different. But just because something is different doesn't mean it is bad. It can still capture alot of what we loved about the original show and at the very least be entertaining.
 
When I look at what they can do with BSG:Blood and Chrome on a shoestring there's no reason they can't do a Firefly miniseries. The key actors ALL want to return, and Joss seems to have some new clout as a $1.6B film director.

I want a Firefly reunion with the original actors, somehow including Book, Wash, and YoSaph
 
Except half of them are tied up with other projects.

Who knows if they even want to return? Of course they are going to say yes as an easy way to please the fans, but who knows how they really feel. Apparently Nathan freaked out when people started rasing money to bring the series back. If it came down to actually commiting, and quitting Castle/Homeland/Suburgatory/Avengers 2 to make it happen, id bet that most would decline.

There are no plans right now, and even if they announced it today, it would be atleast a year before we got anything. The cast isnt getting any younger nor are thier schedules any less busy.


And why exactly? Why would those of you who could easily ignore any new series that you dislike really be offended by the existance of something that the rest of us could enjoy?
 
I have my Bu-rays of Firefly and Serenity to watch any time I want. It's like old friends you can revisit. A new series or movie is not going to happen. You can't go back in time, or recapture your youth. We were lucky to have had it in the first place, but it's history. Get over it, move on. That ship has sailed.

Old Grandpa
 
If Joss and the actors are genuine about wanting to do more, I think its easily possible, but not in the formats we've had thus far. Unless everyone suddenly becomes out of work, we're not getting another regular TV series or feature film. And that's not really what I'm wanting out of this franchise anyway at the moment.

I think, given their other obligations, irregular TV specials or direct-to-video/web releases are easily do-able. Even "short story" mini-episodes would be cool. This gives them plenty of flexibility to tell stories in different periods of the continuity to avoid needing to have all the cast present at the same time. If all else fails, you can even get into back-story episodes for single characters - a solo-adventure of Jayne as a bad-dude before joining up with the crew, Book's secret past (not the comic), etc.
 
I have my Bu-rays of Firefly and Serenity to watch any time I want. It's like old friends you can revisit. A new series or movie is not going to happen. You can't go back in time, or recapture your youth. We were lucky to have had it in the first place, but it's history. Get over it, move on. That ship has sailed.

Old Grandpa

Sounds like vauge sentimentalities to me. I see no reason why a new show can't contain all of the qualities we loved about the old one.

If you don't like it, ignore it. If you do, enjoy it.
 
Sounds like vauge sentimentalities to me. I see no reason why a new show can't contain all of the qualities we loved about the old one.

If you don't like it, ignore it. If you do, enjoy it.

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I'm a casual Firefly fan, but I did enjoy it and the movie. From that point of view, I have no interest in seeing some reboot. I don't think the premise was so brilliant that it really warrants such a thing. There are thousands of sci fi ideas that could succeed just as well creatively and commercially if executed well, so I don't really see much use for returning to the Firefly "universe" without the original cast. It isn't like Marvel, Star Trek, or Star Wars--series that have a huge geek mythos around them and make sense as franchises that can be reinvisioned and re-tweaked every once in awhile. If they brought the old cast back for one more hurrah however, I would be interested.
 
Battlestar Galactica is one example of remakes that have been done well, compared to the enormous number of attempted remakes that have been steaming piles of crap. I didn't love the concept, I didn't love the cast, I didn't love the creator. I loved the creation that happened when it all came together. I love my golden retriever, Butterscotch, but she is not my dear departed golden retriever Harley.
 
Exactly, no one is saying it won't be different. But new and different is better than nothing.

No one so far has been able to tell me why those things we loved about the original can't be repeated.

Why don't you actually try answering my question using words for once instead of repeatedly using gifs and jpgs to insult me?
 
I think you are right--it could be redone, and it could be good. But BGS succeeded because the creative team did a great job. They could have taken any number of old franchises or even new ideas and probably come up something equally compelling. It wasn't the BSG universe in itself that helped that show succeed IMO. Same would go for Firefly.
 
I'm a casual Firefly fan, but I did enjoy it and the movie. From that point of view, I have no interest in seeing some reboot. I don't think the premise was so brilliant that it really warrants such a thing. There are thousands of sci fi ideas that could succeed just as well creatively and commercially if executed well, so I don't really see much use for returning to the Firefly "universe" without the original cast. It isn't like Marvel, Star Trek, or Star Wars--series that have a huge geek mythos around them and make sense as franchises that can be reinvisioned and re-tweaked every once in awhile. If they brought the old cast back for one more hurrah however, I would be interested.

That's why I think a new set of characters in the same universe (perhaps interacting with the characters of the original series from time to time) would be a good idea. The universe itself isn't much without the characters, so it would be nice to expand it. It's another reason why an MMO game that people keep bringing up is a terrible idea for Firefly, the universe isn't nearly as interesting as the characters and in an MMO you wouldn't have the characters or the ship.

Exactly, no one is saying it won't be different. But new and different is better than nothing.

No one so far has been able to tell me why those things we loved about the original can't be repeated.

Without the same cast it wouldn't be the same, the likelyhood of having it be better or as good would be remote. If it weren't then it would hurt the series.
 
I loved the new BSG, but in many ways they would have been better off if they hadn't used the title Battlestar Galactica. Anyone who watched knows they moved well outside the boundries of the original show. Subject matter, tone, characters, designs, just about everything was radically different than the old show.

To be a fan of new BSG you pretty much had less go of the baggage from the old show, something at least one of my friends couldn't do. "They should do this... they should do that..." I got tired of hearing different ways the new show was supposed to honor or follow the old one. "They aren't going to do that, it's different"

BSG was a situation where you really couldn't go home again. The actors were all much older, some of them had left acting and some of them had died.

The tone of 70's BSG was a bit disjointed... it starts of very grim for the first 30-40 minutes and then they go to a disco planet. We didn't care because we were kids at the time. RDM stayed in that dire situation. There were no aliens the entire series. There was no campy humor.

By contrast Firefly is still a series where all of the actors are still relatively young and eager to revisit. This is more like bringing back Star Trek - between 1969 and 1978 the fans kept asking for more. Those fans didn't want a new Kirk, Spock or McCoy.
 
By contrast Firefly is still a series where all of the actors are still relatively young and eager to revisit. This is more like bringing back Star Trek - between 1969 and 1978 the fans kept asking for more. Those fans didn't want a new Kirk, Spock or McCoy.

And look what happened when we finally got it 3 years ago? Not too bad of a job IMO.
 
That's fine that you would like a do-over. But I think Hollywood's reboot frenzy is getting tired and lazy, two things Firefly was not. I would like to see the original cast if possible. So we're just going to have to disagree.
 
I am also a casual Firefly fan. It wasn't around long enough to really develop the kind of rapport I have with Buffy/Angel. It probably would have if it lasted even three seasons, but we'll likely never know. Maybe because of that, I would be open to a reboot. A spinoff would work best, a remake would be pointless (too young a show and it was done pretty darn good the first time), a continuation or one-off (movie, great, but comics, anyone? > crickets < ) would be handicapped trying to keep the momentum of the original.

I confess I'm baffled by the resistance to even considering a spin-off reboot as somehow sacrilegous. Something new, on its own merits, sucking would not taint the original in my mind. And if it's good on its own merits, that would be great! I love experiencing greatness for the first time. So why not?

As for BSG, I am (just) old enough to remember the original as a fun but somewhat vapid space soap opera. The new one is so completely different, so serious, so deep, there is no comparison. They're different shows with different strengths.
 
I'm thinking if it were to happen at all, continuation with mostly new characters is the way to go...

Firstly if you pick up after Serenity, Wash and Book are dead. That changes the group dynamic seriously right there.

I think it would be far more interesting to keep Serenity (the ship) the constant, pick it up ten years or so down the road, and follow new characters with the originals coming back in guest or recurring roles as older and wiser (ok, Jayne will probably just be older ;) ) versions of themselves (as actor availability permits).
 
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