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That's the thing, not saying it's all of them, but the majority of problems come along with new members. The "veterans" if you will are the ones that try to keep the peace and do some policing of things, but we're becoming more and more outnumbered to the point where folks are looked at like ^^^^^^^s for trying to preserve what this forum ought to be about.

For example, it's like a once a week minimum occurrance that someone registers here and starts posting and giving off the vibe that they're posting to get in on selling things, often making first posts about selling. I've seen some that are just selling stuff also, but are coming here for chat, but they think everyone's an unaccepting ^^^^^^^ for giving them ^^^^ about their tactics when all most people coming down on them, some do it just to be dicks, are trying to do is keep this site a place to make friends and have a community of folks that enjoy the same stuff you do. However, things being as they are, policing things ourselves isn't going to change things, it'd take administrative efforts and I'm not sure it'll ever get to that point.

Sadly, I fear with escalation of some of the negatives around here, this forum will be left to run it's course until Dave's forced to close it down.

Perhaps a solution would be 2 SSF boards. One solely existing as a resource for new product release pictures and information, business solicitation and all that, and one for a community purposes. And I'm talking 2 different web addresses, heavy administration involvement to keep things separated and serving their purpose, the works. If things were separated like that, the community site would then just be filled with folks want to talk collectibles and pop culture and the folks with the gimme gimme attitudes would have their resource sit to get things.
 
I think we are a LONG way from that happening. I think that the recent new rules and added mods are a reaction to this chronic bickering. As these new rules take effect and the mods become more coffortable with their new responcibilities, there will be less of this negativity.

But see the mods repsonsibility now is limited to keeping conversations to a degree of civility, but that won't change the attitudes of folks, it'll just clean up what you read from them.

The real problem stems from the overall average attitude within the community now and unless the mods take on responsibilities beyond what they currently do, that's not going to change. And certainly most of them have other responsibilities and can't be on here cleaning things up as much as they'd like to be, nor should they have to, it's all vollunteer work to help us.
 
But see the mods repsonsibility now is limited to keeping conversations to a degree of civility, but that won't change the attitudes of folks, it'll just clean up what you read from them.

The real problem stems from the overall average attitude within the community now and unless the mods take on responsibilities beyond what they currently do, that's not going to change. And certainly most of them have other responsibilities and can't be on here cleaning things up as much as they'd like to be, nor should they have to, it's all vollunteer work to help us.

But if members are a chronic problem, they could be banned. It's disappointing that it has come to this policing, but I think it will be the best in the long run. I miss seeing the good natured joking with members as opposed to the mean spiritedness tone of the recent.
 
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But if members are a chronic problem, they could be banned. It's disappointing that it has come to this policing, but I think it will be the best in the long run. I miss seeing the good natured joking with members as opposed to the mean spiritedness tone of the recent.

I agree with your solution. Like I said a few comments back though, I'm not sure that's the type of forum Dave wants this to be. A lot of folks gripe here about how mod-controlled Rebelscum is and came to SSF because of it's more free atmosphere. It can be a lose-lose situation. Leave the boards free to somewhat run itself and things can go to hell, police it too much and people may not want to come.

Personally, I'd be fine if things were more regulated and it thinned the population, at least then you'd know all the folks here would be seeking the same causes you are.
 
Can't we all just get along?? I mean, since I switched over from collecting figures to sideshows items I have really loved selling items, buying items (mostly buying items :D), but mostly chatting about new statues. Not everyone is going to agree about every statue. Some may like it, some may not. If sideshow reads some of whats being said and agrees with the comments and makes a change, great....if not, so what. If you don't like something about a statue you don't have to buy it. I would hate to see this site have to come down because some just can't seem to get along or for whatever other reason. I think that some of us newbs here would definately agree with the "veterans" of the freaks board. This is a great site...Lets keep it that way, preserve what it is, and enjoy what it!!

KEEP THE SITE GOING, MIGHTY DAVE!!! :banana
 
Not all of the criticism has been bad, though. We've actually helped Sideshow improve some of their products over the years through honest/passionate feedback.

It's a fine line, but IMHO being a completely positive Pollyanna/Apologist isn't really anymore productive than being a consistently negative "Hater". The key is unbiased honesty and balance.

A lot of what Sideshow does thrills me and some of what they do drives me friggin' nuts... and I'm here to discuss both. Regardless, it's never personal.
 
And I think Sideshow actually liked having the feedback on their products and took value in this board for that, reason, we help them grow, but those days are almost gone. Any comment yay or nay and the opposing side makes personal attacks. If you're SSC and you come to read these boards now, you don't see feedback on your product, you see it insighting digital warfare almost, who wants to feel like they're responsible for that stuff. It's not SSC's fault at all that people act that way, but any good person would still see the situation and feel somewhat responsible, and SSC's full of good people.

The ideal setup for this board would be something like Bill Maher's show or the old Comedy Central show Tough Crowd with Collin Quinn; discussion about topics amongst a diverse group of backgrounds, tastes and opinions, treating each other with civillity and enjoy each other's company and upholding a place where folks are free to exchange ideas and where commercialism, entitlement, and other unwanted attitudes are nowhere to be found.
 
It's a fine line, but IMHO being a completely positive Pollyanna/Apologist isn't really anymore productive than being a consistently negative "Hater". The key is unbiased honesty and balance.

The ideal setup for this board would be something like Bill Maher's show or the old Comedy Central show Tough Crowd with Collin Quinn; discussion about topics amongst a diverse group of backgrounds, tastes and opinions, treating each other with civillity and enjoy each other's company and upholding a place where folks are free to exchange ideas and where commercialism, entitlement, and other unwanted attitudes are nowhere to be found.


Exactly my point. Sideshow appreicates constructive criticism. Unfortuantely, there have been way too many threads of late that devolve into mudslinging and name calling because people can't agree to disagree or simply move on.
 
Here is when the trouble began.

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and it aint never been the same since.
 
It may have begun there, but it's the Alien, Predator and TDK stuff from Hot Toys that has brought in the real rabble.
couldnt agree more. i havent been a member here long but ive been ready this board long before i joined. it isnt a fun place anymore i dont care what anybody says. and yes i think there are too many fans who joined this board just to get deals on the dark knight figures cuz they werent originally supposed to be releaes in the US. these same individuals have admitted to not even owning 1 SS piece and they seem to be the most critical of everything shown on here INCLUDING peoples custom figures which i think is just wrong. i only participate in a couple threads now. dont even look twice at the majority of them. when i first joined i tried to read everything that looked interesting. i cant stomach most of it now.
 
That's exactly what I mean, it's a whole new mindset folks are coming to this site for, and unfortunately it doesn't seem like all agenda's can coexist.

I started my forum life at Rebelscum, the conversations lost their luster, I heard about this place, started to check it out, stopped posting at RS and found a new home here. Made some cool friends here, lotta great things have happened to me just being a part of the SSF community, not looking to gain any of it, all incidental, and without even being one of the longtime members, it pains me washing what I love so much about this place be undone.

Sorry if I get broken record about points on this matter, but it's something that's been deeply bothering me for awhile now.
 
these same individuals have admitted to not even owning 1 SS piece and they seem to be the most critical of everything shown on here INCLUDING peoples custom figures which i think is just wrong.

This isn't really a Sideshow forum anymore. I think most people come here for Hot Toys info now.
 
*feels partly responsible for calling the Leonidas PF "gay," feels sorry about it, and watches this thread from a distance*
 
The more product lines SSC started to produce the more fans of those characters/movies came along. I have to admit I joined up when they started the SW line. But never really became an active member because there was alot of negativity brewing. Imo it all started with the SW forum. I wasnt around before then but the stuff that started going down in those threads was ridiculous. Too many "know it alls", "purists" and "cousins of a friend whose uncle is the Brazillian distributor of SSC" and knows that because of the Endor Troopers SSC is going bankrupt. And the thing about people coming in too snag TDK figs is probably pretty damn true. Not to mention all the "customizers" that have popped up and offer their wares openly on any subforum they want, and Im not talking about the hired proffesionals and SSF resident artists . "Hey Im making accurate versions of "Goon #5" from Batman 89, the SSF price is $110, pay now and youll get it in a month." "Hey I bought a case of the DC Direct Jokers, I add a custom headsculpt, Ill sell it here for only $250.":peace
 
the problems :



1- Star Wars and everything related to it, from its fans to the marchandise..it just sux.... I just hope Sideshow lose the licence one day....



2-The rejects that comes from the spawn board here every day...mostly kids who are fans of the Alien/predator/Terminator and other Hot toys stuff......The Krusaders ,the medicommies and the Brotherhood all toned down..but those guys are just retarded...The pirates thing is so unoriginal and not funny its disgusting...the Sandbox used to be a funny place now its so mediocre and uninteresting.


3- Dark Knighters ---:monkey4 over rated and uninteresting members here, like the movie they love so much.


4- People that come here just to make a $.....not interested to be part of this place....We see you....


5-Political threads have no places on this board. IMO.


6- the new breed of customizers who come here again for $$$ and who called their procuct '' the definite version of '' a figure.Many of those new customizer makes really sub- par products.There I said it.Please rate those guys threads accordignly..they deserve to know their product sux.

7- Also people posting threads with pics of themselves for a line of clothing like they are a model shouldnt be allowed to speak on this board...:lol
 
A lot of what Sideshow does thrills me and some of what they do drives me friggin' nuts... and I'm here to discuss both. Regardless, it's never personal.

Discussing both is fine, but sadly some people go way beyond discussing and make things very personal and its just sad to see that pop up so much lately.
 
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