White actors taking roles from people of color .......(of course)

[Mr. Green]

Hahahahhaha.....oh, dragon.

Matt Damon is Marco Polo? At least he's not using a gun/rifle and would like more gun control and such.

Please complain about this movie. You know you want to!!



He's like one of the few non Asian in this movie. He is bound to learn Kung Fu in a couple of weeks. Tom Cruise did in The Last Samurai, and so he can too.

Good that someone is making a statement. Mr. Green likes Matt Damon as much as Tom Cruise, and definitely Keanu Reeves but this is just plain weird. Oh, well, Mr. Green have no interest in this movie anyway.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/movies/news/constance-wu-on-the-great-wall-our-heroes-dont-look-like-matt-damon/ar-BBv2sHN?li=BBnbfcL

 

[The Ween]

This is a movie made in China, by a Chinese company with a Chinese director. If they don't care if the lead actor is white, why should anyone else?

 

[The Ween]

 

[The Ween]

Yup......frustrating as hell, isn't it?

 

[Mr. Green]

This is a movie made in China, by a Chinese company with a Chinese director. If they don't care if the lead actor is white, why should anyone else?

LOL, at least they're not censoring it. Besides, it's made by mostly non-Asian.

Executive Producer:
Jillian Share
Alex Gartner
La Peikang
Zhang Zhao
E. Bennett Walsh

Produced by:
Thomas Tull
Charles Roven
Jon Jashni
Peter Loehler

Story by:
Max Brooks
Edward Zwick
Marshall Herkowitz

Screenplay by:
Carlo Bernard
Doug Miro
Tony Gilroy

Directed by:
Zhang Yimou

Universal and Legendary ain't exactly Chinese. They're American according to Wikipedia.

 

[Mr. Green]

this whole thing is frustrating, I didn't even wanted to get serious, I was just trolling at first. this whole race washing/ageism/sexism/fat shaming....omg... Humans are vain, people are vain and human beings love to watch Beautiful people on screen... OH NO!
(automatically triggered)
Hollywood only gets away with all this crap because people buy it, Hollywood gets away with all this garbage because deep down inside people love to see pretty people on screen.... Im not even saying it is okay or defending hollywood's Prejudice, I just hate how people try to deny that the audience is just as guilty as the movie producers.

Yes, we're all guilty to some degree.

 

[The Ween]

LOL, at least they're not censoring it. Besides, it's made by mostly non-Asian.

Executive Producer:
Jillian Share
Alex Gartner
La Peikang
Zhang Zhao
E. Bennett Walsh

Produced by:
Thomas Tull
Charles Roven
Jon Jashni
Peter Loehler

Story by:
Max Brooks
Edward Zwick
Marshall Herkowitz

Screenplay by:
Carlo Bernard
Doug Miro
Tony Gilroy

Directed by:
Zhang Yimou

Universal and Legendary ain't exactly Chinese. They're American according to Wikipedia.

Universal is releasing it HERE. It will play in China first.

Damon has a SUPPORTING ROLE in the movie actually. They are playing him up to make money HERE.

I'm actually through with all this ******** anyway.

 

[The Ween]

you guys know who is the really behind all of this right?

There's nothing to be behind. It just is.

Don't like it don't see it.....period.

 

[ali032373]

(Edited for space)

Constance Wu on 'whitewashing': 'Our heroes don't look like Matt Damon'
By Sandra Gonzalez, CNN
Updated 10:44 PM ET, Fri July 29, 2016

(CNN)"Fresh Off the Boat" star Constance Wu says she is sick of Hollywood "whitewashing" heroism.

In a letter posted to her Twitter account Friday, Wu said films like Matt Damon's forthcoming "The Great Wall," in which the star plays a warrior defending the landmark against ancient Chinese monsters, add to a problem that's existed for too long in the industry.
"We have to stop perpetuating the racist myth that a (sic) only white man can save the world," she wrote. "It's not based in actual fact. Our heroes don't look like Matt Damon. They look like Malala. Ghandi. Mandela. Your big sister when she stood up for you to those bullies that one time."
Wu said typical reasons given for whitewashing films -- like the lack of bankable diverse stars and the need to appease overseas investors -- are no longer valid.
"Can we all at least agree that hero-bias & 'but it's really hard to finance' are no longer excuses for racism?" she wrote in the tweet accompanying the long note. "TRY."
The Taiwanese-American actress has earned critical praise for her role as Jessica Huang on ABC's "Fresh Off the Boat."
In her letter, she pleaded for Hollywood to take the risk of casting actors of color as film leads.
"If nothing else, you'd get some mad respect (which is WAY more valuable than money)," she wrote.

Wu wrote that she wasn't trying to apportion blame.
"Not blaming Damon, the studio, the Chinese financiers," she wrote in a followup tweet. "It's not about blame, it's about AWARENESS."
The trailer for "The Great Wall" was released Thursday. The movie, directed by Zhang Yimou, opens in February 2017.

 

[kryptonianmutie]

Universal is releasing it HERE. It will play in China first.

Damon has a SUPPORTING ROLE in the movie actually. They are playing him up to make money HERE.

I'm actually through with all this ******** anyway.

Yeah, congratulations to the actress who tweeted about this non story to get her publicity. I never heard of her before but now I know who she is, well played. Either she's completely ignorant about the business she's in or just a moron. It's a teaser trailer made specifically for western audiences to get them interested.

 

[Mr. Green]

She's been in the business for some time. She's in 5 movies/series. You won't hear/see a lot of Asian actor/actress in America, for sure.

What's strange is:

Synopsis

Matt Damon and Willem Dafoe star in this supernatural thriller that supposes that the Great Wall of China was made to keep out a race of ancient creatures. ~ Jeremy Wheeler, Rovi

We all know the history of the Great Wall. This movie is just weird, imo.

 

[ali032373]

Yeah, congratulations to the actress who tweeted about this non story to get her publicity. I never heard of her before but now I know who she is, well played. Either she's completely ignorant about the business she's in or just a moron. It's a teaser trailer made specifically for western audiences to get them interested.

What's so interesting about this post in that not only do you dismiss her point ("this non-story"), you question her motive in even making it ("to get her publicity"). Then, you go even further and imply deceit ("but now I know who she is, well played.")

 

[kryptonianmutie]

What's so interesting about this post in that not only do you dismiss her point ("this non-story"), you question her motive in even making it ("to get her publicity"). Then, you go even further and imply deceit ("but now I know who she is, well played.")

Because she wrote this entire essay based on one single teaser trailer without seemingly knowing anything about the movie. She refers to Hollywood but the movie is a Chinese production and directed by a great Asian director. Instead of actually engaging Matt Damon himself, because y'know people can't have conversations, she got on her soapbox and used her reaction to this trailer to make a grandstand. I do believe Damon is married to an Asian woman and is a liberal guy so I would give him the benefit of the doubt as to any cultural insensitivities of the project, but I'm sure he would take questions about the movie from the actress if she had just tried to ask him. No, she decided to make the trailer an indictment of the entire movie industry. He's running around in the trailer looking like Hawkeye from Avengers with some snippets of dialogue in the background. That's not whitewashing. It's Robin Hood in China. If she had condemned the studio for making it seem that this movie was all about Matt Damon in the trailer, that would be a different scenario, but she lumped this movie in with all the other white male savior films and sent it out to the world. Maybe it wasn't for attention. Maybe she's just another overzealous young person on twitter. Maybe.

 

[ali032373]

First, for her purposes, does anyone really need to see the whole movie to make this criticism? I would say no. If she said the movie sucked, that's different. But she's saying (if I read her right) that she's sick of the white man hero syndrome in movie making. You don't need to see the whole film to make that complaint.

Second, I googled whitewashing earlier. There are three forms, one of which in the injection of a white character into a film where the presence of that white character is improbable. Here, we have matt Damon, a white guy, running around ancient china. That just seems improbable to me. He's in the movie for another reason.

And in the article I read she accuses ALL movie studios of often using white men as the hero/lead even in stories where the pretense of a white man in that particular place and time is remote in the extreme. So I do agree with you that she is indicting the entire industry. I think that is her issue.

Finally, she doesn't blame matt Damon. So your comment about him being liberal and married to an Asian woman seems misplaced. In fact Hollywood is accused of being one of the most liberal industries in operation.

 

[ali032373]

You have dismissed what a lot people have said not only now but with the ghostbusters and with the iron man thread. People reply to you but u ignore and u just keep saying the same thing over and over without caring to reply or even acknowledge posts you dont agree with.
Hard to take this seriously when people kept replying but you just wanna shout things and not have a conversation with anybody
U even go to the hate thread to attack people that never even posted here, but never bother to even see what was replied

Weren't you the one who wrote earlier "I was just trolling"?

That's why I don't respond to everything. frankly some things don't warrant a reply. For me, If someone says something insightful, reasonable, logical, or makes an argument on point I will typically respond. I actually enjoy a good debate when people say sharp things and challenge my own ideas with thought and evidence.

But if you go off point, like talking about what's for lunch, I probably will not reply.

As for saying the same thing I will disagree to some extent. Maybe it's me looking for some intelligent response on that issue where none was received the first time. The theme may be the same but I try to add something different each time.

As for shouting I will disagree wholeheartedly. Being emphatic is not shouting. I never wrote a whole bunch of stuff in caps, I never went nuts with exclamation points. Nothing like that.

 

[ali032373]

U even go to the hate thread to attack people that never even posted here, but never bother to even see what was replied

I missed this line earlier.

Can you please post what I wrote in the hate that that you seem me to be attacking people? Did I call anyone a name? Did I say anyone was dumb? Did I threaten anyone? Did I use foul language?

Second, I did not raise this this issue in the Hate thread. But you ignored that fact. That conversation was going on in that thread without me. Were those people "attacking" anyone?

Also, Did you criticize people in the other race role threads as "attacking" anyone? I don't know if we read those threads but I saw some pretty nasty comments. I must have missed your commentary in those threads.

 

[crows]

I think this is the best video ever made about white washing

The most interesting opinion Ive seen,

He gives a rational Neutral look at this whole thing and gives really good points on the issue

the most rational view on this problem Ive seen



Ali I think you would like it. I wanna know what you think.

I honestly want to know what your thoughts are

( I also wonder what Lejuan thinks of this)

 

[kryptonianmutie]

I don't find it anymore improbable that a Caucasian guy was in ancient China than Morgan Freeman running around with Kevin Costner in Robin Hood Prince of Thieves. If Damon was playing an emperor or the monkey king then yeah this movie should get hate on full blast, but as far as we know he's just a co-star in an international film based in China.

 

[The Ween]

I don't find it anymore improbable that a Caucasian guy was in ancient China than Morgan Freeman running around with Kevin Costner in Robin Hood Prince of Thieves. If Damon was playing an emperor or the monkey king then yeah this movie should get hate on full blast, but as far as we know he's just a co-star in an international film based in China.

....about a fictional SciFi story about dragons. I just don't understand all this hating on this film. Most of the hate are by people who somehow equate this to a documentary or something. And they completely over look that the star of the movie is Chinese.

People just jump on the hate wagon without actually finding out what the hell is really going on. I see it on Facebook all the time!

 

[The Ween]

american people are mad because white washing is an american problem.

I bet you no one in china gives a crap. they loved warcraft and the hero in that one was white
white washing to Japan and china doesnt seem to be a big deal

It's mostly a problem to white people.