Will There Be Any New 1:6 Scale Stuff at TF?

[Matt S]

I would figure that with the time and money that toy fair must cost a company to go and exhibit there, they would have shown new material. I am surprised that no new 1:6 are seemingly there.

Color me disappointed. I am sorry, a chess table does not excite me.

 

[IrishJedi]

Why is that? They've never done anything for the ORC Celebrations as well as C3. SS isn't GG and gonna exclusive everyone out pissing off everybody. Enough folks get pissy about the SDCC Exclusives.

Celebration IV is a gazillion times bigger than SDCC for Star Wars fans, that's why.

Plus, Sideshow was pretty much the ONLY licensee at C3 without an exclusive (much to the dismay of many SW fans and collectors, believe me). But they had just stared the PF line then.

No excuse this time. If they don't come to C4 with something special they are dropping the ball (and not for the first time by some counts).

 

[nash]

I thought people generally dislike exclusives though. I know I'd rather have a straight up new release at a huge convention than just some rehashed exclusive.

 

[IrishJedi]

You have to understand the mindset of diehard SW collectors. They are all about the exclusives (even though they whine about them). Trust me, exclusive collectibles are VITAL to these Celebrations. Lucasfilm knows that too.

Dare I surmise that Lucasfilm would be among the most disappointed with SSC if they don't have something special at C4.

 

[Darth Loki]

You have to understand the mindset of diehard SW collectors. They are all about the exclusives (even though they whine about them). Trust me, exclusive collectibles are VITAL to these Celebrations. Lucasfilm knows that too.

Dare I surmise that Lucasfilm would be among the most disappointed with SSC if they don't have something special at C4.

Do you work for Lucasfilm? If not you're generalizing. There's no doubt that SW fans are insane, but not everyone can make it across the country to attend a SW event. I for one hate exclusives because all of these events are ALWAYS on the West Coast. It's not fair to have to rely on the courtesy of someone else to get something for me.

Just because these are your feelings, don't assume we all feel the same. Don't knock SS for having the courtesy to not put out 20 different event exclusives a year. (Knock them for raffles, Grey variations, Negative Zone variations, black and red variations.........)

 

[PosterBoyKelly]

You have to understand the mindset of diehard SW collectors. They are all about the exclusives (even though they whine about them). Trust me, exclusive collectibles are VITAL to these Celebrations. Lucasfilm knows that too.

Dare I surmise that Lucasfilm would be among the most disappointed with SSC if they don't have something special at C4.

That's true.

 

[IrishJedi]

Do you work for Lucasfilm? If not you're generalizing.

No, I don't work for LFL directly... but I'm not generalizing either. I have several close friends who work there, including those who organize these events.(Hence the pics in my signature image below)

Trust me, I know. Exclusives are a HUGE part of Star Wars Celebrations... more and more so for each one, in fact. If SSC is not prepared to do something special for C4 they wouldn't be earning any brownie points, trust me.

That said, I think they WILL have something at C4. In fact, I'll be utterly shocked if they don't.

 

[nash]

yeah i guess for myself, I dont get so excited over exclusive since they are generally nothing really new. just some altercation of an already existing thing. so if ssc didnt do them for cons I wouldnt feel like they dropped the ball. But in a business standpoint, they would have dropped the ball since the revenue from just that simple tweak of an already existing item would be tremendous.

good point with the brownie points the IJ, and yes I too will be shocked if they didnt have an exclusive for every big con even though Id prefer them to just reveal a new release.

 

[carbo-fation]

Well put Loki! My sentiments exactly! Good job sideshow for thinking about the folks who aren't able to attend these events for many reasons.

 

[Darth Loki]

No, I don't work for LFL directly... but I'm not generalizing either. I have several close friends who work there, including those who organize these events.(Hence the pics in my signature image below)

Trust me, I know. Exclusives are a HUGE part of Star Wars Celebrations... more and more so for each one, in fact. If SSC is not prepared to do something special for C4 they wouldn't be earning any brownie points, trust me.

That said, I think they WILL have something at C4. In fact, I'll be utterly shocked if they don't.

Wow you've had a picture taken with Hayden and Ian, color me impressed. Well, you must know what you're talking about then. By all means, continue to tell us what we are all thinking.

 

[IrishJedi]

Wow you've had a picture taken with Hayden and Ian, color me impressed. Well, you must know what you're talking about then. By all means, continue to tell us what we are all thinking.

Oh, stop. You're the one who assumed I don't know what I'm talking about. Nor have I ever intimated that I know what you are anyone else is thinking. I was just simply sharing the fact that exclusive items are a huge part of these Star Wars Celebrations and that Lucasfilm is aware of that and they are more than encouraging their licensees to have special collectibles and events at C4.

How that got turned into me telling you what you're thinking I have no idea.

 

[Darth Loki]

Oh, stop. You're the one who assumed I don't know what I'm talking about. Nor have I ever intimated that I know what you are anyone else is thinking. I was just simply sharing the fact that exclusive items are a huge part of these Star Wars Celebrations and that Lucasfilm is aware of that and they are more than encouraging their licensees to have special collectibles and events at C4.

I was never argueing that point. I agree with you on that. But as a collector who can't make it to West Coast conventions (and there are more than a few of us), we hate event exclusives. I will say that everyone loves exclusives who's able to get them. If I knew I'd be able to get all the GG exclusives that they announced yesterday, I'd be as giddy as a school girl. But with GG, there's no garauntee. I for one appreciate the fact that SS doesn't torture us with a ton of these exclusives (I'm not saying they don't find other ways of torturing us though).

Event exclusives seem to cater to the rich and leave the average collector with his 'you know what' in his hands. Unless you have someone kind enough to get an exclusive for you, you'll be paying triple retail from all the scalpers that attend these conventions (because die hard fans wouldn't put it up on eBay two hours later)

 

[IrishJedi]

Oh, I am with you on that, trust me. The exclusives are not fun (or fair) for those who can't attend these events.

In SSC's defense, though, they have done a good job of trying to ease that... with limited amounts available on their website. If they indeed have exclusives at C4 I'm sure it would be the same and those who won't be able to attend the Con will have a chance to pre-order them online.

 

[Darth Loki]

Oh, I am with you on that, trust me. The exclusives are not fun (or fair) for those who can't attend these events.

In SSC's defense, though, they have done a good job of trying to ease that... with limited amounts available on their website. If they indeed have exclusives at C4 I'm sure it would be the same and those who won't be able to attend the Con will have a chance to pre-order them online.

That SSC thankfully has going for them. I was able to get every SDCC exclusive I wanted last year.

GG on the other hand does not make things so easy

 

[IrishJedi]

GG on the other hand does not make things so easy

Amen to that! They are the worst. And it use to be even worse than that. I was at SDCC '04 and I entered the lottery every day for 5 days and was not able to purchase a single exclusive item.

SSC is by far the most collector-friendly in this area. Not even close.

 

[The Josh]

Celebration IV is a gazillion times bigger than SDCC for Star Wars fans, that's why.

That may be true but it's not a bigger event overall.

No excuse this time. If they don't come to C4 with something special they are dropping the ball (and not for the first time by some counts).

If they don't they're dropping the ball? Dude you gotta be kidding me. If they don't do an exclusive to a certain fan event? I totally disagree. I think they will come to C4 with something special but it will be the announcement of say a Chewie, Droids, Clones, Stormies, Vader, Fett, etc. something like that.

I don't think LF will be upset with SS if they dont have a show exclusive. Especially since this line is selling like freaking hot cakes.

If they do great. I'll get it. I'm not going but I'll get it. If they're doing one though based on the timeline that they usually do for SDCC. It should be going up soon for order for those going to the show and not going to the show.

 

[Darth Waller]

I'm glad Sideshow doesn't release exclusives for every convention. Obviously Gentle Giant is in George's flanneled pocket.

 

[Buttmunch]

Well, back on topic. I think there is still hope. There is still a start was annoucement for Wed. That is the end of Toy Fair right? And what else besides "today's" diorama announcement could they announce? Seems like they have a surprise up their sleeves. Besides the chess expansion pack can't expand on nothing.

 

[The Josh]

I'm glad Sideshow doesn't release exclusives for every convention. Obviously Gentle Giant is in George's flanneled pocket.

Me 2. The way GG is doing things is just nuts. I dont mind convention exclusives even the ones I'm not going to(which outside of SDCC I ain't going to any) but doing one for every show is a bit much, because it takes away from exclusivesness of your items. I think Convention Exclusives are fine I really do. I like them and support them because if you're gonna spend the money for a show a nice item like that is cool.

 

[MaulFan]

That may be true but it's not a bigger event overall.

Given that we're discussing SDCC versus C4 on a Star Wars level, SDCC will never live up to C4 as a celebration. It pains me greatly that I can't go to C4 because in the lives of Star Wars fans, no convention will ever compare on any level to C4, it's going to be the greatest event ever done and probably never rivalled again for SW fans.

I think to say SSC would be dropping the ball not to have an exclusive at C4 is silly. An exclusive is not the make or break of a convention. Ya maybe GG has a cool item you have to have, but it's just as good a treat if Sideshow pulls back the curtain for the first time on a slew of product that blows everyone away. EVERYONE at C4 that are fans and collectors of SSC would be as thrilled to see an unveiling of Vader and Chewie and all their hopes and dreams, and show well before the world knows of it, as much as they'd be to get an exclusive item. I think SSC is a better company for putting more work into grande showcasing and exclusive glimpses and opportunity than exclusive items, everyone gets an equal opportunity to get beautiful pieces, but the attendees get rewarded with being the first to see and first to order it, which is a big guarantee for them, where by the time it comes to us non-attendees, it's may the best may win, so you get exclusives of a subtle and equally valuable nature by going to the show. I'd have loved to be at SDCC 06 and seen Jabba, I probably never would have left their booth, Exclusive Vader would not have been my priority or joy at that event, but seeing the beautiful new offering would have sucked my collecting heart right in and captivated it.