Wolverine Origins (Spoilers/Discussion)

[jye4ever]

really deadpool?
...not daredevil or elektra?

Man, why couldn't Catwoman be Marvel....damn!!

 

[CelticPredator]

Those both sucked....but atleast they LOOKED like their counterparts.....WTF was that thing....seriously.

 

[jye4ever]

Those both sucked....but atleast they LOOKED like their counterparts.....WTF was that thing....seriously.

Yeah, i'll give you this one if you're referring to regular DP.

But the thing at the end was supposed to be DP turned into a monster of combined mutant DNA.....and the joke was that his mouth was sewn shut by Stryker...

get it....big and wise mouth DP had his mouth sewn shut......Har Har....

I guess it does tie in with X2 due to Stryker still wanting to kill mutants plus they showed his son as a child.....

 

[CelticPredator]

I dont care. It wasnt funny. It was sad. He was the only reason I wanted to see the movie. And my god did they ever screw him up. Why Deadpool? Why not that Agent Zero fool....he didnt nothing in the movie....ugh. Fox sucks.

 

[tylerdurden]

last week, i was walking past a dvd store selling pirated dvds and wolverine was playing on the tv screen! yes, the leaked version everyone's been discussing.

i couldn't resist, so i stood there watching the first 20 minutes of it. i almost wish i hadn't. as u know, in this workprint version, the effects aren't finished, the score and sound was all temp, and it didn't have any of the stuff they reshot recently. and i sincerely hope gavin hood n his team have done a better cut cos what i saw was really dodgy, borderline cheesy in fact.

the opening credits established the "brotherhood" aspects of wolvie and sabertooth's relationship, with saber regularly going on a rampage and wolvie constantly trying to keep him in check. it ends with both of them facing the firing squad cos saber murders one of his own soldiers. as the firing squad takes aim, saber just glibly remarks "wake me when this is over." the editing of this opening sequence was really lifeless and the timing seemed off somehow.

won't go into any more detail as most of it has been discussed here already.

i just hope they have improved it. i doubt reshoots can do a huge lot of good, but i'd like to believe it can.

i guess we'll find out in the cinemas at the end of april.

 

[El Skutto]

It's funny, when I was watching the movie, my initial thoughts were "man, Deadpool fans are going to LOVE this", but then as I neared the end of the movie, my thoughs were "oh man, Deadpool fans are going to FREAK when they see what's been done to him".

I found Deadpool's first big action scene (as Wade Wilson) was very cool, if a bit unrealistic. However, the transformation of the character near the end of the movie completely ruined it for me. What is it with Marvel movies having good beginnings and middles, but crappy end-boss fights? I'm thinking Daredevil (Kingpin), X3 (Phoenix), Hulk (daddy cloud), Punisher (John Travolta), Fantastic Four (Galactus cloud), etc...

 

[CelticPredator]

Aside from Hulk and Punisher...the answer is FOX.

 

[FQRizzo]

It's funny, when I was watching the movie, my initial thoughts were "man, Deadpool fans are going to LOVE this", but then as I neared the end of the movie, my thoughs were "oh man, Deadpool fans are going to FREAK when they see what's been done to him".

I found Deadpool's first big action scene (as Wade Wilson) was very cool, if a bit unrealistic. However, the transformation of the character near the end of the movie completely ruined it for me. What is it with Marvel movies having good beginnings and middles, but crappy end-boss fights? I'm thinking Daredevil (Kingpin), X3 (Phoenix), Hulk (daddy cloud), Punisher (John Travolta), Fantastic Four (Galactus cloud), etc...

I thought the end battle in Iron Man was pretty weak. Loved the moive overall, but the end was very cliché.

 

[jye4ever]

I thought the end battle in Iron Man was pretty weak. Loved the moive overall, but the end was very cliché.

Same here....it really was.....

 

[YoNoSe]

I didn't actually think it was as bad as a lot of you guys did but for some reason I could not get over, IMO, one of the lamest plot devices to grace comic book movies yet -

Spoiler

amnesia by bullets!

Really?! That's the best they could come up with?!
I may be advertising my ignorance if that's how it happened in the comic but even so - wow! That is LAZY writing.

 

[Natrix]

I didn't actually think it was as bad as a lot of you guys did but for some reason I could not get over, IMO, one of the lamest plot devices to grace comic book movies yet -

Spoiler

amnesia by bullets!

Really?! That's the best they could come up with?!
I may be advertising my ignorance if that's how it happened in the comic but even so - wow! That is LAZY writing.

I agree, I thought that was incredibly lame as well.

 

[bran-chan]

I can't watch a movie that strays so far from the comic book. Dog Logan is not confirmed to be Sabretooth. I hate it when movie studios take liberties like that, it's more of a chance that will make Marvel just up and go, "guess we'll do that since the movie made everyone think that."

 

[YoNoSe]

I don't care if the filmmakers take liberties. There's a far greater chance of Marvel or DC ignoring/erasing/ret-conning their own history for some ridiculous crossover than them adopting a movie concept to appeal to a new audience. Nothing is set in stone. You can't even say "no one stays dead except Bucky" anymore because they brought back effing Bucky!
The only thing I'm not crazy about is introducing a character like Deadpool just for the sake of using a familiar name. Pointless.
And one more nit/question -

Spoiler

Why have Hugh Jackman play Wolverine's father just to reveal that he's not his father?! Did I miss something? Either there's a twist in there that I didn't pick up on or that's really, really stupid.

 

[Josette]

Just reading the spoilers makes this movie sound horrible....

 

[jye4ever]

Just reading the spoilers makes this movie sound horrible....

Nahhhh,

it's not...at least not what I like to use the term "horrible" on...like for these:

Norbit is horrible
Cat Woman is horrible
1985 Fantastic Four by Roger Corman is horrible
1970-80's Captain America and Spiderman TV show is horrible
Disaster Movie part 8 is horrible (name fits perfect, doesn't it?)
Scary Movie part 10 is horrible (and Scary)
Nightmare on Elm street part 30, Freddy is really a guy in a rubber mask is horrible
Friday the 13th part 1 Billion, Jason takes a piss in a foley catheter is horrible
Godzilla part 80, Godzilla eats recasters is horrible
Halloween part 1000, Micheal Myers kills the economy is horrible

See, that's horrible for me....not the only 70% complete Wolverine bootleg.

I'll be there May 1st.

 

[prefused]

1985 Fantastic Four by Roger Corman is horrible

it wasn't good, but that dr doom was still better.
also, it came out in 1994 and back then it was decent for a comic book movie.

 

[jye4ever]

it wasn't good, but that dr doom was still better.
also, it came out in 1994 and back then it was decent for a comic book movie.

oops, forgot the decade...

man, that was from the 90's...

looks like it was from the 80's....

I have to see that again....

That being said, I'll take Terminator 2 from that same time frame over Corman's Fantastic Four any day of the week. Term 2 might not be based from a comic book but it's still fantastical if you get what i'm saying.

True there was a huge difference in budget, I think FF4 was made for $36.38 and T2 was a gazillion dollars but when you say that Corman's FF4 was decent enough for a comic book movie for its time, I would consider T2 being the better representation of what a good for its time scifi-comic book type fantastical movie was.

Or am I wrong and that's apples and oranges...

 

[YoNoSe]

Just reading the spoilers makes this movie sound horrible....

I'm not trying to come off like I didn't like it. I did. It's an entertaining, well produced B movie that makes no attempt to be anything more and that's fine with me. I'll see it in the theater and buy the DVD. When you have a grown man with fangs running on all fours I'm predisposed to like your movie.
It's just that some of the logic is so boneheaded it almost requires that you ask someone to verify that you actually understood it.

 

[prefused]

oops, forgot the decade...

man, that was from the 90's...

looks like it was from the 80's....

I have to see that again....

That being said, I'll take Terminator 2 from that same time frame over Corman's Fantastic Four any day of the week. Term 2 might not be based from a comic book but it's still fantastical if you get what i'm saying.

True there was a huge difference in budget, I think FF4 was made for $36.38 and T2 was a gazillion dollars but when you say that Corman's FF4 was decent enough for a comic book movie for its time, I would consider T2 being the better representation of what a good for its time scifi-comic-fantastical movie.....

Or am I wrong and that's apples and oranges...

you're comparing apples to t2.
corman's ff movie was not only low budget, but unfinished and never intended to be released as it was. it exists only as a bootleg.
t2 would be garbage without the fancy big budget fx.
and yet, corman's dr doom was still cooler than the 2005 version. go figure.

 

[Scar]

When you have a grown man with fangs running on all fours I'm predisposed to like your movie.

It's disturbing that those are my exact sentiments. Perhaps more than any other reason that is why I am most looking forward to seeing this.