Wonder Woman 1984 - June 5, 2020

[Wor-Gar]

I also just bought 3D Spiderman FFH

I have to say, that was a totally boring superhero movie. Zero stakes and retread of Syndrome plot.

 

[ZE_501]

I think it?s the mere fact that nobody cares about black widow , who is dead, or eternals , who are as z list as it gets.

Gotg was zlist but they pretty much threw in recognizable elements from other films that would hook people in

It?s just not a good yr for movies

I don't care about the Eternals because I have no idea who they are and probably still won't after the movie, but hey, surprise me!

Black Widow is a character I've enjoyed in comics and on-screen, and I can't see anything wrong with super-spies and some superhero stuff thrown into the mix, so dead or alive, I'm looking forward to the BW flick.

 

[Wor-Gar]

At least with Black Widow -- despite her rubbery survivability -- she is supposed to be human, so maybe there is more risk felt for her in action sequences than there is with Captain America who I never feel is in any peril or risk of getting killed. He is like Superman in that way -- indestructibly boring.

 

[ZE_501]

At least with Black Widow -- despite her rubbery survivability -- she is supposed to be human, so maybe there is more risk felt for her in action sequences than there is with Captain America who I never feel is in any peril or risk of getting killed. He is like Superman in that way -- indestructibly boring.

Was never a big Cap fan. He grew on me over the course of 253 MCU films but if I'm being honest he was just always there while I waited for someone like Black Widow or Iron Man to do stuff.

Iron Man was a big surprise too -- I knew the character existed but that was about all until I watched that first, fateful film. I don't know that anyone but RDJ could have pulled that off. A bold move, leading with that character but you gotta figure the audience was more likely to buy into fantasy *technology* rather than fantasy *superpowers* at that point, with no beloved Spider-Man to work with.

 

[Wor-Gar]

I was an Iron Man fan as a kid... and in the 90's I always felt that he would translate well into a movie. Because he is human but has a believable way to fly. Its essentially a spacesuit with rocket jets. What kid wouldn't love that. There were only a few comic book characters that I felt would translate well into a real-world film. Iron Man was inevitable.

Superman, Spiderman, etc always seemed way too powerful and indestructible for no good reason. No threat. No risk.

Batman and Iron Man were just smart guys in specialized suits. Much more believable and relatable once you are over 12 years old.

 

[ZE_501]

[...]
Superman, Spiderman, etc always seemed way too powerful and indestructible for no good reason. No threat. No risk.

At least Spidey bleeds.

 

[The Buffinator]

At least Spidey bleeds.

He shaves too. Or should I say he will - if he ever reaches puberty.

 

[screamingmetal]

I was an Iron Man fan as a kid... and in the 90's I always felt that he would translate well into a movie. Because he is human but has a believable way to fly. Its essentially a spacesuit with rocket jets. What kid wouldn't love that. There were only a few comic book characters that I felt would translate well into a real-world film. Iron Man was inevitable.

Superman, Spiderman, etc always seemed way too powerful and indestructible for no good reason. No threat. No risk.

Batman and Iron Man were just smart guys in specialized suits. Much more believable and relatable once you are over 12 years old.

That's what got me into comics, seeing a astronaut flying through space in a suit of armor on the cover of his first comic spoke to a kid that went past a NASA facility everyday to kindergarten and saw King Arthur ride with his knights through the cherry blossoms on vhs. Though IM always had problems with a dry leading character and compelling villains, he had the same average man turned into self made superhero vibe that DC's best character Batman had. Basing a movie on IM was a smart move on Marvel's part.
I could still get into superpowers, it's all about the fantasy of what it would be like to have them and vicariously experiencing that through a hero. The issue is that the hero is so superpowered that you need to ramp up the villain, and do that over and over every month because the villain needs to be defeated at the end of every monthly issue and sometimes the hero's powers get ramped up to defeat the villain that you run out of good villain ideas pretty fast and the story gets ridiculous.
I recently watched a youtube video about Spawn and how absurd his powers became long after I stopped buying the comic that I just had to facepalm and then laugh that they essentially made Spawn more powerful than god and had him create a whole new universe to defeat both god and satan. Where the hell would you go with the character after THAT?

 

[ironwez20]

I was an Iron Man fan as a kid... and in the 90's I always felt that he would translate well into a movie. Because he is human but has a believable way to fly. Its essentially a spacesuit with rocket jets. What kid wouldn't love that. There were only a few comic book characters that I felt would translate well into a real-world film. Iron Man was inevitable.

Superman, Spiderman, etc always seemed way too powerful and indestructible for no good reason. No threat. No risk.

Batman and Iron Man were just smart guys in specialized suits. Much more believable and relatable once you are over 12 years old.

Not true with Spider-Man . He is always out of his league and struggles to survive and live his life. He?s a small fish in a big pond and suffered the most out of any hero. Batman had it way easier than Spider-Man did . Bruce Wayne is rich and powerful , Spider-Man struggles with living day to day and uses his quips to hide the fact he is scared. Spider-Man will always be the most relatable hero ever. Nobody can relate to Bruce or tony. They are rich and get there gadgets easily. Spider-Man prettt much scrounges around for anything to put together to use for gadgets.

 

[AC_808]

Not true with Spider-Man . He is always out of his league and struggles to survive and live his life. He?s a small fish in a big pond and suffered the most out of any hero. Batman had it way easier than Spider-Man did . Bruce Wayne is rich and powerful , Spider-Man struggles with living day to day and uses his quips to hide the fact he is scared. Spider-Man will always be the most relatable hero ever. Nobody can relate to Bruce or tony. They are rich and get there gadgets easily. Spider-Man prettt much scrounges around for anything to put together to use for gadgets.

Dude! Spot on!

That's why I always admired Spider-Man/Peter Parker more than any superhero. He was a hero even with all the struggles he went through. And he was intelligent enough to invent his own web fluid and web shooters. One of the best by far.

 

[darth dennis]

I was an Iron Man fan as a kid... and in the 90's I always felt that he would translate well into a movie. Because he is human but has a believable way to fly. Its essentially a spacesuit with rocket jets. What kid wouldn't love that. There were only a few comic book characters that I felt would translate well into a real-world film. Iron Man was inevitable.

Superman, Spiderman, etc always seemed way too powerful and indestructible for no good reason. No threat. No risk.

Batman and Iron Man were just smart guys in specialized suits. Much more believable and relatable once you are over 12 years old.

I wasn't an Iron Man reader as a kid, so my introduction to him was in the old Toyfare magazine. He was always drunk and messing things up for Spidey and Hulk. That magazine and the Mego action figure comics were pretty solid!

 

[jye4ever]

Not true with Spider-Man . He is always out of his league and struggles to survive and live his life. He?s a small fish in a big pond and suffered the most out of any hero. Batman had it way easier than Spider-Man did . Bruce Wayne is rich and powerful , Spider-Man struggles with living day to day and uses his quips to hide the fact he is scared. Spider-Man will always be the most relatable hero ever. Nobody can relate to Bruce or tony. They are rich and get there gadgets easily. Spider-Man prettt much scrounges around for anything to put together to use for gadgets.

True especially in the comics his insecurities were paramount to who he was but unfortunately in the MCU he is just a spoiled IM proxy flying in private jets.

But I also understand where Wor is coming from as far as power levels go Spiderman is pretty tank like especially for a little pipsqueak.

I wasn?t an Iron Man reader as a kid, so my introduction to him was in the old Toyfare magazine. He was always drunk and messing things up for Spidey and Hulk. That magazine and the Mego action figure comics were pretty solid!

Those mags rocked!


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[ZE_501]

At least with Black Widow -- despite her rubbery survivability -- she is supposed to be human, so maybe there is more risk felt for her in action sequences than there is with Captain America who I never feel is in any peril or risk of getting killed. He is like Superman in that way -- indestructibly boring.

So in at least a couple of comics continuities Black Widow is enhanced; she ages more slowly, is more durable etc. -- but she's not invincible and conventional weapons *can* kill her.

I'm not familiar with Cap in the comics other than when he's appeared as a cameo or in ensembles. I think he 'died' from an assassin's bullet, didn't he? After Civil War?

 

[ZE_501]

[...] But I also understand where Wor is coming from as far as power levels go Spiderman is pretty tank like especially for a little pipsqueak. [...]

Being a character of iron morals and ethics, being powerful doesn't make it easier for him to navigate normal life or protect his loved ones, although with his genius-level science acumen him being poor for so long was a bit of a stretch. Depending on the continuity he's not anymore.

He's also pretty jacked -- Olympian gymnast's build -- but that's as adult Peter whom it seems we'll never see in film.

 

[Spartan Rex]

 

[Bo Shrek]

Who feels like watching He-Man??

 

[Bo Shrek]

Or Clash of the Titans....

 

[jye4ever]

Look at her face in that bottom photo instead of Sadffleck we have Sadgal lol


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[ZE_501]

Battle of the Planets maybe?

 

[jye4ever]

Battle of the Planets maybe?

It is a cool Gatchaman looking helmet!

She looks ridiculously uncomfortable wearing all that lol


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