X-Men: Apocalypse - May 27, 2016

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pturtle (I never get used to typing that btw) is always a good sport, he can take it as good as he gives.

Just busting his chops, I enjoy most Superhero movies, I remember a time of only STM playing in the theater so i'm very grateful for our wealth of choices today.

That wait between quality superhero movies back then was super long!

But yeah he's wrong on all accounts, TWS/CW are the Zod of superhero movies, kneel before them pturtle! :lol
 
Word. pturtle and Clown Prince are fun tykes to spar with. I'm glad they each have their own thing (Singerverse and Nolanverse respectively.) I wouldn't have it any other way and frankly would be disappointed if they ever conceded that the Cap movies were better and ended these little back and forths. :D
 
That's old Professor X. The young, cool version is way more dynamic and agile. Check out the hand action.

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Word. pturtle and Clown Prince are fun tykes to spar with. I'm glad they each have their own thing (Singerverse and Nolanverse respectively.) I wouldn't have it any other way and frankly would be disappointed if they ever conceded that the Cap movies were better and ended these little back and forths. :D

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That's old Professor X. The young, cool version is way more dynamic and agile. Check out the hand action.

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I stand corrected! :lol
 
pturtle (I never get used to typing that btw) is always a good sport, he can take it as good as he gives.

Just busting his chops, I enjoy most Superhero movies, I remember a time of only STM playing in the theater so i'm very grateful for our wealth of choices today.

That wait between quality superhero movies back then was super long!

But yeah he’s wrong on all accounts, TWS/CW are the Zod of superhero movies, kneel before them pturtle! :lol

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Word. pturtle and Clown Prince are fun tykes to spar with. I'm glad they each have their own thing (Singerverse and Nolanverse respectively.) I wouldn’t have it any other way and frankly would be disappointed if they ever conceded that the Cap movies were better and ended these little back and forths. :D

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That's old Professor X. The young, cool version is way more dynamic and agile. Check out the hand action.

YGYhPig.jpg
Gl294yZ.jpg
8cgLkdh.jpg
JNTQDHU.jpg

:lol :lol :lol

I never understood why he needed to do that in these movies.
 
All the superhero movies suck. We're all brainwashed into getting hyped and seeing the same crap every year. It's a sad cycle.

Friendly reminder that everyone has already seen what future superhero movies have to offer, same stuff, different year.
 
I never understood why he needed to do that in these movies.

Yeah sometimes actor choices on how they want to convey something can be amusing. Like Liam Neeson's Jedi mind tricks. Of course people are going to get suspicious when you're giving them orders and waving your damn hand in everyone's faces. :lol Apparently he forgot that Luke hypnotized the crap out of Bib Fortuna without ever taking his hands out from under his cloak.
 
All the superhero movies suck. We're all brainwashed into getting hyped and seeing the same crap every year. It's a sad cycle.

Friendly reminder that everyone has already seen what future superhero movies have to offer, same stuff, different year.

I was going to say that at least we've gone a year without a superhero movie featuring a light shooting up into the sky but I guess we kind of got that when Wonder Woman appeared and saved Batman. And technically F4 was like 9 months ago so nevermind.
 
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I never understood why he needed to do that in these movies.

He does that in the comics. As far as the movies go, I like to think that the young version isn't as experienced or as strong as the old version, so...I guess he uses his hand to help himself concentrate better.Older version just closes his eyes.
 
He does that in the comics. As far as the movies go, I like to think that the young version isn't as experienced or as strong as the old version, so...I guess he uses his hand to help himself concentrate better.Older version just closes his eyes.

Yea but it was just weird since his older version never did that, that the felt the need to add that but I guess you’re right about him probably not needing to do it as he got older.
 
To me, the film seem to imply that Apocalypse throughout the years stole a lot of powers, so that just one of them, its not a great explanation but its not really that bad in my opinion.

But it's not a power though. Having strange metals in your disposal isn't a power. It's a legitimate plot-hole, there's no way round it. It's not like Apocalypse being able to piece together info from radio waves and understand what's going on in a short time, that's probably his brain working overtime, which is a "power". Obtaining otherwordly tech that turns light into a damn siphon isn't one. It's a gap in the script.

Wanda inexperienced? She was kicking ass from almost every scene in the movie :lol

She was tossing heroes around left and right at the airport, and shut down Vision like it was nothing. But she loses control of Crossbones because she’s inexperienced? Idk, that scene didn’t work for me at all.

She got training for her powers, but that was probably a new situation for her. She's not a season veteran like Cap, she hasn't gotten into fights or learned to deal with "people". In AoU she just went nuts and started tearing **** up, she didn't have to worry about hurting people. And now here she goes, in an undercover mission, against a very lethal foe, in the middle of a populated location. And BAM! the guy explodes! It's not too strange for her to lose control of the giant, flame engulfed, screaming man. It's no more PIS than Superman not using his super-hearing to find his mom. Sometimes other parameters influence a character's actions. Anxiety, fear, panic, all that. It's not as simple as saying "oh, I have this power and I'm gonna use it". It's why when you write an important test, due to all the stress, you miss a few tiny details, and go from a 100% to a 90%. Anxiety goes a long way to screw up with you.



I don’t think it was badly done, but I would have liked to have seen Havoc go out in a more heroic way.

Eh, I never really liked Havok, so I don't care either way, but having QS be the Deus Ex Machina, and still, somehow, not saving Havok, is a bit of a PIS case. That, or QS dicking around probably cost Havok his life. No matter how close he were, the dude could have saved him, considering he kinda, sorta, "stopped" time (in a way) with his running/speed.


My main problem with it is how disconnected it felt from the rest of the movie..

Eh, it was badly done, any way you cut it. Cheesy dialogue, an anti-climatic 'fight", awful choreography, it was all a bunch of barnacles.


And thats why I liked the Singerverse more than 95% of the X-Men comics I’ve read. Thats why God Loves, Man Kills is my favorite X-Men story, it tackles more serious problems.

You call it serious problems, I call it pseudo-intellectual BS. Same with BvS. All of them try to inject "realism" and "sociopolitical issues" in their movies, when they're dealing with guys and gals dressed in spandex, named "Magneto" and "Cyclops", while beating each other up with their super-powers which they got from their "mutant genes". They're action movies, that's it. I'm not saying you can't break the mold, but your job should be to be able to tell a cohesive, enjoyable to sit through movie with super-people, rather than trying to one-up your previous sociopolitical movie.

I disagree with you about Fox and DC though, these days both studios seem to be pumping on less quality than they use to because they’re copying Marvel trying to to reach the same success in less time. But X1 AND X2 definitely have a place in movie history. DC has Superman The Movie, Superman 2, Both Burton Batman flicks, The Nolan Flicks and Sony has Spiderman 1 and 2 and I doubt these movies will ever be forgotten. All those movies I listed were ambitious for their time, and different, and I feel like were a lot more unique compared to what Marvel has been pumping out. 20 years from now, I doubt anyone will be talking about the most of these MCU movies. Half of the movies in the MCU are already forgotten about amongst the general crowd.

Most of the movies? Nah, there'll be tons by then. But the MCU as a whole? The story of a small, kinda broke company who took a "black-listed" actor, made him play a C-List super-hero and went on to create the first interconnected and serial universe in movie history? People will always talk about that. There were film universes before, but never at the scale that Marvel succeeded in. The Avengers was a cinema event and yeah, it didn't have much of a story, but it didn't really have to. It was the final issue of the 6 part event where **** goes down and it's oversized so that you can enjoy the beatifully drawn pages.

All in all, I go to watch CBMs first and foremost as a CB fan. I don't go in expecting anything groundbreaking, because you can't do anything groundrbreaking with super-hero stuff. Look at famed runs like Brubaker's Cap, Ellis' Moon Knight, Priest's Black Panther. For the most part, they were action books with super-heroes. But they were well-written, cohesive, had good characterization and great art. That's what made them stand out. If I start judging all CBMs as a "critic", expecting to find something like "A Serious Man" from such a flick, everything will be an average movie, because that's not what they're supposed to be. You don't go into Rambo expecting a Coen film.

And even then, the X-Films still are pop-corn entertainment. It's your opinion, and I respect it, but for me at least, they're just action flicks which have a bit more of a basis to tackle sociopolitical issues. But, they get too hang up on that, and thus can't compete with the other action flicks that embrace what they are. I'd never, not even in a million years put something like this next to GotG. Abso-****ing-lutely not.
 
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