X-Men: Days of Future Past

[devilof76]

How about they mess with the timeline and we start with new movies where Prof X starts off with Cyclops, Iceman, Beast, Angel and Marvel girl....

At this point, too many people like the crappy Singer movies for us to ever get real X-Men movies.

 

[Buttmunch]

Russell Crowe?

That would have been almost funny if Crowe was Australian

My Grandmother was so excited by all of the English actors in the first Les Miz trailer. I had to point out none of them were - Jackman's Australian, Hathaway's American, and Crowe is from New Zealand. That shut her up

Personally, I think messing with the timeline is the best thing they could do. Get rid of Wolverine and X3 as 'what if' movies. The Terminator: The Sarah Connor Chronicles basically did the same thing to T3 and it worked just fine IMO.

 

[karamazov80]

X2. . .*huge* stepdown from X:FC

I would put you on ignore if I could, Khev. I would ignore you so much.

 

[Blood Electricity]

Personally, I think messing with the timeline is the best thing they could do. Get rid of Wolverine and X3 as 'what if' movies. The Terminator: The Sarah Connor Chronicles basically did the same thing to T3 and it worked just fine IMO.

agreed.

I can't help but feel like the mainstream audience wouldn't even pick up on it. Plus...I say if the human torch can become captain america then why not give it a re-do in the disguise of a sequel.

 

[Frank]

I really wanted to like FC more than I did, but I just couldn't forgive them for doing an origin story set in the 60's without the original comic crew. All told, nothing in that movie grabbed me like that opening sequence for X2. When Singer is on, he's great. Hope he learned something from his incredibly boring take on Supes.

 

[Snadinator]

I really wanted to like FC more than I did, but I just couldn't forgive them for doing an origin story set in the 60's without the original comic crew. All told, nothing in that movie grabbed me like that opening sequence for X2. When Singer is on, he's great. Hope he learned something from his incredibly boring take on Supes.

I don't get the hate for Singer's Superman Returns. He set out to make a film in the Richard Donner style and he, IMO, achieved that. It doesn't feel out of place at all with Donner's Superman film, which wasn't action oriented either. Furthermore that airplane scene was jaw dropping.

Sure I want a Superman Reboot that is gritty and action oriented now, but I think in terms of what Singer was trying to achieve, he accomplished.

 

[Uncanny Web-Slinger]

I don't get the hate for Singer's Superman Returns. He set out to make a film in the Richard Donner style and he, IMO, achieved that. It doesn't feel out of place at all with Donner's Superman film, which wasn't action oriented either. Furthermore that airplane scene was jaw dropping.

Sure I want a Superman Reboot that is gritty and action oriented now, but I think in terms of what Singer was trying to achieve, he accomplished.

Same with Ang Lee's HULK, he set out to make a movie about the emotional affects of becoming super-human, and he succeeded.

People just didn't want that type of film they wanted a 'rahh grah hulk smash' film

 

[nexus]

I hold out little hope for Singer's take, but all will be forgiven if he can somehow get the story to bring back Cyclops, Jean Grey, Storm, Iceman, Rogue, (recast with younger actors), introduce a new Warren Worthington III Angel (recast please), keep Beast from XFC and Colossus from X2, and add some more faces like Psylocke, Gambit and Bishop. Bring in a CGI-enhanced Juggernaut that actually looks like Juggernaut. Ditch the black biker wear for costumes more like what was used in Avengers (comic inspired but grounded in reality).

The only way I can see doing this is to tell the movie in two distinct acts. The first half would tie into the XFC storyline. The second would be some kind of retcon. But anyway I guess we'll see.

 

[Uncanny Web-Slinger]

I'd like Recastings of Cyclops, Jean, Storm and Collossus, the others (XFC, X1, X2) were all good

Marsden is a good actor but he was never given much to work with as Cyke sadly

 

[Uncanny Web-Slinger]

What would you guys think of this for the X-Men franchise...

Fox wants the shared universe thing like Marvel has done with the Avengers, while that is fine for the Avengers it wouldn't work for X-Men

Solo films of Beast, Xavier, Iceman, Cyclops ect... just wouldn't work as the X-Men are primarily young teenagers when they attend the Xavier Institute and become Hero's while learning there, there isn't a significant enough story to tell before assembling the team.

However one of the best things about X-Men is the changes of events as time goes by and how the climate of Mutantkinds place in the world changes and the X-team roster changes.

______________

If i were in Miller's positiion, here's what i'd propose:

Several film series, each set in their own timeline, Five to Ten to Fifteen years apart.

The Vaughn Era / First Class
These films would feature the team just starting out, locating friendly Mutants and helping them adjust to their powers while stopping "evil" Mutants from outing Mutantkind to a world that isn't ready for them

The Singer / X-Men Era
These would encompass the existing X1 and X2 and continuing films that focus on the X-Team fighting for their place in the world while combatting "evil" Mutants and the Humans who wish to license, detain or kill their kind.

The Dystopian Future Era
These would encompass the last hope of Mutankind. With Mutantkind having been outlawed because of some catastrophe caused by a Mutant, the Majority of Mutants would be inprosoned in Concentration Camp and the rest hunted by Sentinels, while Human kind gradually become victim to the sentinels and martial law.
This would feature new Mutants from the previous films but also have characters feature or cameo from the earlier timeline where they look different, for instance Cyclops could go from the newbie clean cut leader he was in the Singer era and become a grissled 'do what has to be done' leader who looks older has longer hair a different costume and visor ect.


This series of different films strategy would give the same level of depth the MCU has (more so even) but instead of having them all feature at the same time and get muddled with which came first/after like the MCU, there would be clear reference points to the era from the different looks of the characters (Appearance, Age & Costume), to the climate of the worlds knowledge & reaction of to Mutantkind to the team rosters.

Doing this would mean a clear continuity of characters biogrophies and timeline which Miller and others would develop beforehand so a characters appearance and history would remain correct no matter which era they appear in, no matter who directs the films.

So for an example of that the Dystopain Future timeline could feature Juggernaut as an X-Man in his own unique costume played by an Actor and the "X-Men era" could introduce Juggernaut in his first Chronological debut in a different costume played by the same actor but this time as a villain.
So we the audience would know that at some point in the future he's join the X-Men.

Other possible film series could include sub-team like Havok or another key cahracter and his team battling the Shi'ar and discovering the Phoenix-Force in Space. That for example could infer that it's the Phoenix and it's host that causes the catastrophe that caused Mutantkind to be outlawed in the future, it would provide mystery and interest.

_____________

I may have written this so it seems too confusing to a mainstream audience, but the jyst is this...

A series of films set in the '60's when the team first gets together and recruits while trying to keep Mutantkind under raps.

A Series of films set in the present with the team up against mutants and humans

A Series of films set in the future where Mutants are outlawed and treated like the Holocaust with the team battling extinction and Sentinal robots.

ALL of these timelines would adhere to a set continuity developed by the studio so there is no contradiction in characters Who've died suddenly featured alive in the future set films.

 

[Khev]

How was it Singer's influence that prevented FC not being able to use the original iconic X-Men? It was FC that decided to take place in the 60's. Perhaps if Vaugn and his team decided to make FC in the 90's he wouldn't have had this issue.

Because he was involved in the production of X:FC which no doubt prevented it from being its own reboot instead of just a prequel to "his" franchise.

As for the shifting of focus from McAvoy and Fassbender, that's not the case. Both sets of Professor X and Magneto actors will be in the film.

Exactly. One set of Magneto and Xavier = Total focus on them. Two sets = divided focus. Lame. You had your time and your take on the characters Singer. Quit trying to shoehorn everything back to those first two movies as if they're the end all be all take on the X-Men.

 

[Khev]

I would put you on ignore if I could, Khev. I would ignore you so much.

What's so great about X2? A slick Nightcrawler opening and some cool mansion assault footage does not a great movie make.

 

[thenammagazine]

What would you guys think of this for the X-Men franchise...

[ame]https://youtu.be/97du1N7Znb0[/ame]

 

[Uncanny Web-Slinger]

What's so great about X2?

The Nightcrawler opening and some sick Mansion assualt footage of course.

But there's also the split into teams, the Deathstrike fight, the ending, and the rest of the film too.

Quit trying to shoehorn everything back to those first two movies as if they're the end all be all take on the X-Men.

I agree, but that's the way it is.

You got two choices. 1. Avoid the future movies 2. Deal with it and enjoy them.

 

[jye4ever]

What's so great about X2? A slick Nightcrawler opening and some cool mansion assault footage does not a great movie make.

 

[Kamandi]

My biggest gripe with X2 was under-using Colossus. Otherwise I thought it was pretty good.

What would you change?

 

[Uncanny Web-Slinger]

My biggest gripe with X2 was under-using Colossus. Otherwise I thought it was pretty good.

What would you change?

Strangley enough Collossus metal skin was better looking in X2 than x3 where it looked like tin foil.

 

[DiFabio]

X2 sucks now other than Nightcrawler opening and the Mansion assault? Pretty high standards.

Woah, I had no idea. I thought Stryker was brilliant and that whole plan of killing mutants, then Magneto changing it to kill humans was great. I loved the whole facility at the end. They also added onto the civil rights stuff that was built upon in the first film, always a common theme in the X-Men stories.

My only gripe that Cyclops was criminally underused and turned into a villain under that mind control ****.

What's so bad about X2 again? Can't say I've ever had incredibly high expectations for any of the X-Men movies, all I know is the third one sucked and Origins coulda been good. Other than that, I thought the other three movies were just fine.

 

[Khev]

X2 sucks now other than Nightcrawler opening and the Mansion assault?

Yeah I said it "sucks."

 

[DiFabio]

"What's so great about it" = THIS MOVIE SUCKS ASS on message boards.