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Because he was involved in the production of X:FC which no doubt prevented it from being its own reboot instead of just a prequel to "his" franchise.

Smells like speculation to me.

Exactly. One set of Magneto and Xavier = Total focus on them. Two sets = divided focus. Lame. You had your time and your take on the characters Singer. Quit trying to shoehorn everything back to those first two movies as if they're the end all be all take on the X-Men.

Smells like speculation to me.
 
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Is this just an effort to unify the franchise and connect a great movie (First Class) with the other films in the series? Starting to sound like a "Best of" version.
 
Nah, it's more just a handfull of whiners throwing temper tantrums because they don't want to see the zzzzzzzzz mutants they think should be in the films and Fox doesn't want to lose any more continuity with the films they've already done that they have to. The fact that X3 and Origins are gone should be looked at as a gift to X-fans.
 
"What's so great about it" = THIS MOVIE SUCKS ASS on message boards. :lecture

Well I ask again, what's so great about it? Other than Wolverine and Projessor X I pretty much hated all of Singer's casting choices (okay Nightcrawler was decent too.) X2 had a decent opening and buildup but the finale was pretty laughable with Cyclops about to make out with Patrick Stewart and Stryker looking all silly with those large chains loosely draped across his face.

Add a mostly miscast line of characters to a build up that didn't even go anywhere (especially since technically there no longer even is an "X3") and it just seems pointless to be bound by anything established in the first two films.
 
Well I ask again, what's so great about it? Other than Wolverine and Projessor X I pretty much hated all of Singer's casting choices (okay Nightcrawler was decent too.) X2 had a decent opening and buildup but the finale was pretty laughable with Cyclops about to make out with Patrick Stewart and Stryker looking all silly with those large chains loosely draped across his face.

Add a mostly miscasted line of characters to a build up that didn't even go anywhere (especially since technically there no longer even is an "X3") and it just seems pointless to be bound by anything established in the first two films.

They expanded previous mutants; Pyro, Iceman, Rogue, Storm and Wolverine's origin

Introduced new Mutants; Siryn, Collossus, Nightcrawler, Deathstryke.

There were a number of fantastic scenes that remain some of the best on the genre, like the Mansion attack, White House attack, Deathstryke fight, Best Prison break EVER!!!, Magneto taking out a whole squad of troops by pulling their grenade pins, Pyro burning the cops ect

The team split into three groups, Xavier and Cyke, Wolverine, Rogue, Iceman and Pyro & Jean Grey, Storm and Nightcrawler. Which is similar to the comics.

Stryker was a cool villain with a cool evil plot and Jean Greys death was done well.

What's not to like?
 
Well I ask again, what's so great about it? Other than Wolverine and Projessor X I pretty much hated all of Singer's casting choices (okay Nightcrawler was decent too.) X2 had a decent opening and buildup but the finale was pretty laughable with Cyclops about to make out with Patrick Stewart and Stryker looking all silly with those large chains loosely draped across his face.

Add a mostly miscast line of characters to a build up that didn't even go anywhere (especially since technically there no longer even is an "X3") and it just seems pointless to be bound by anything established in the first two films.


Dunno, what's so bad or "meh" about it? Not every movie is great. In fact, I could question what's good about any movie if I really want to be cynical.

I don't remember the scene where Cyclops is about to make out with Professor X. I do remember him getting all upset about Jean "dying" though. Not sure what you mean about Stryker either. I thought that was a great, disturbing scene. Poetic too. Magneto tied him up and he's going to drown and can't do anything about it.

And as for casting choices, you didn't like Mystique? Or Magneto (though at first I thought he was "too old", but I warmed up to it after the chemistry between him and Charles)? Or Jean Grey? Even though Cyclops was under used, I thought Marsden was a great Cyclops, especially in X-Men.
 
The little back and forth digs between him and Wolverine in the first film were straight from the comics. Good stuff.




"Don't shoot it's me."

"How do i know it's you."

"You're a ****."
 
Dunno, what's so bad or "meh" about it? Not every movie is great. In fact, I could question what's good about any movie if I really want to be cynical.

I don't remember the scene where Cyclops is about to make out with Professor X. I do remember him getting all upset about Jean "dying" though. Not sure what you mean about Stryker either. I thought that was a great, disturbing scene. Poetic too. Magneto tied him up and he's going to drown and can't do anything about it.

And as for casting choices, you didn't like Mystique? Or Magneto (though at first I thought he was "too old", but I warmed up to it after the chemistry between him and Charles)? Or Jean Grey? Even though Cyclops was under used, I thought Marsden was a great Cyclops, especially in X-Men.

X2 was decent. To put it into terms you might be able to better understand imagine this:

Pretend Batman Begins was released as it was minus the scene where the Batsignal is made and it was billed as an official prequel to Batman 89. Wouldn't you be a little annoyed? Let's say Bruce was 35 in Batman 89 and BB depicted him as 25 and for any sequels in between BB and the previous films all of the most iconic villains were strictly off limits. No Joker, no Two-Face, no Penguin, since they had already been established as appearing later in Batman's life only to die shortly later. No Catwoman, Bane, Vicki Vale, and so on.

I'm guessing you'd think that was pretty lame. No "The Dark Knight" follow-up, just Tim Burton retaking the reigns after BB and trying to create some goofy time-traveling tale where Bale can meet Keaton in some weird Back to the Future-style universe. Not that I'm against a good time travel story, but some universes are just better kept separate.
 
X2 was decent. To put it into terms you might be able to better understand imagine this:

Pretend Batman Begins was released as it was minus the scene where the Batsignal is made and it was billed as an official prequel to Batman 89. Wouldn't you be a little annoyed? Let's say Bruce was 35 in Batman 89 and BB depicted him as 25 and for any sequels in between BB and the previous films all of the most iconic villains were strictly off limits. No Joker, no Two-Face, no Penguin, since they had already been established as appearing later in Batman's life only to die shortly later.

I'm guessing you'd think that was pretty lame. No "The Dark Knight" follow-up, just Tim Burton retaking the reigns after BB and trying to create some goofy time-traveling tale where Bale can meet Keaton in some weird Back to the Future universe
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Um, no, it's actual fact that X:FC wasn't a reboot and that the new sequel will contain even more ties to the first two films. It doesn't take a theoretical physicist to figure out that Fox/Singer clearly wanted it to be that way.

Unless you can prove Singer himself was reponsible for preventing Vaugns film from featuring the original X-Men, you are speculating. Period.
 
Dunno, what's so bad or "meh" about it? Not every movie is great. In fact, I could question what's good about any movie if I really want to be cynical.

:lecture

2001 is a groundbreaking, great film.

Star Wars was a film unlike anything people had seen before. I think that qualifies as great. It took the look of 2001 and added an adventure element.

Dark Knight Rises was not a great film, but it was pretty watchable. I have problems with it, but I don't hate it.

X2 was a more satisfying film (to me) than TDKR. It was solid and entertaining. It wasn't important or great, but I don't sit around thinking about crap that's screwed up. X3 on the other hand....
 
Who cares? SOMEONE thought it was a great idea to link X:FC to the Singer films and are doing it even more with the next one. That is LAME.

Who cares? You are the one who keeps blaming it all on Singer. Whether it is lame that it's a prequel rather than a reboot is not what I am bringing up. I am calling you on your assertion that it's all Singer's fault, to which you have no proof.

Can you also proove that the film was original intended to be a reboot? Or Maybe Vaugn always wanted it to be a prequel?
 
Nothing can be done about it Khev it is the way it is, i say just jump on board and enjoy :wave

:lecture

2001 is a groundbreaking, great film.

Star Wars was a film unlike anything people had seen before. I think that qualifies as great. It took the look of 2001 and added an adventure element.

Dark Knight Rises was not a great film, but it was pretty watchable. I have problems with it, but I don't hate it.

X2 was a more satisfying film (to me) than TDKR. It was solid and entertaining. It wasn't important or great, but I don't sit around thinking about crap that's screwed up. X3 on the other hand....

X-Men (2000) was also a grounbreaking film, the first Marvel team movie ever made, all subsequent Marvel team movies owe their existance to the X-Men franchises success.

I agree with Diabio too that no movie is perfect not even favourites like LOTR or Star Wars
 
Who cares? You are the one who keeps blaming it all on Singer. Whether it is lame that it's a prequel rather than a reboot is not what I am bringing up. I am calling you on your assertion that it's all Singer's fault, to which you have no proof.

All right, well fixate on that notion all you want then. I guess I'm not too concerned that you take issue with my assumption than Singer's direct involvement had more than a little to do with the current continuity X:FC is confined by. ;)
 
All right, well fixate on that notion all you want then. I guess I'm not too concerned that you take issue with my assumption than Singer's direct involvement had more than a little to do with the current continuity X:FC is confined by. ;)

There you go. You know what happens when you assume.
 
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