Terminator Zero

a-dev said:

Finally got around to finishing this. I'm not into Animation and frankly I don't think I have room in my Terminator canon for anything outside of the first two movies - there's only so much time-travel shenanigans I'm willing to even try to wrap my head around. As far as story and ambition this is probably more akin to the Sarah Connor Chronicles than any of the crap sequel movies after T2. And unlike T3, T:Genisys and Dark Fate it avoids the ''even more super-dooper advanced Terminator baddie'' trope and instead makes a plain old T-800 a serious threat once again. I give it props for that.

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Otomofan said:

I turned it off after the opening action sequence in the first episode.

If a machine brandishing a mini-gun has aim that bad, it's not worthy of being called a Terminator.

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chrisstbh said:

It’s not even weak. She temporarily slows him down and he still shows up later to commit some classic Terminator atrocities. They never even manage to kill it.

If people watched things beyond the first 3 minutes to see how things actually play out then they might actually enjoy it .

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EndoSickness said:

If you LOVE Terminator, you sit through it and that's coming from someone who only watches
ONE anime actually and thinks everything else is just more of the same.

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EndoSickness said:

You do know the spread of a mini-gun though?!

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T8OO said:

I watched a T-800 tear through a whole police squad with a mini-gun and not harm any of the humans with pin-point accuracy and they were running in all directions. If it can miss all of those that accurately it could hit one.

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Kebron said:

To be fair in T2 he was shooting at large stationary targets, not one person actively running and trying to avoid him. Also in the movies the Terminators all missed targets with various types of guns, at different times for story reasons. It's not like it was established the Terminators never miss their target.

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Kebron said:

To be fair in T2 he was shooting at large stationary targets, not one person actively running and trying to avoid him. Also in the movies the Terminators all missed targets with various types of guns, at different times for story reasons. It's not like it was established the Terminators never miss their target.

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BeefEaster said:

The Tech-Noir scene in the original movie is a great example of this. Terminators have terrible aim when trying to shoot main characters.

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T8OO said:

They were running past and away from the stationary targets, hiding behind cars. He was shooting around their feet while they were running.
The issue isn't them missing a target, it's missing such an easy target with no cover for such a huge length of time.


It's never more than a second or two though.

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T8OO said:

They were running past and away from the stationary targets, hiding behind cars. He was shooting around their feet while they were running.
The issue isn't them missing a target, it's missing such an easy target with no cover for such a huge length of time.


It's never more than a second or two though.

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Kebron said:

Then how come they never hit main characters until the story needed them to which was hardly ever.

It's a made up story, how accurate and unaccurate they are depends on what the writers want at a particular point.

To say TZero is unbelievable because the Terminator would of hit her with a mini, but ignore all the times in the movies when the Terminators missed their targets is being a bit contradictory.

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Kebron said:

Miniguns, such as the M134, are known for their high rate of fire rather than pinpoint accuracy. They can fire thousands of rounds per minute, which makes them effective for suppressive fire and covering large areas. However, this high rate of fire can also lead to a spread of bullets, reducing precision.

They are designed to hit targets within a certain area rather than a specific point. The accuracy can be influenced by factors such as the mounting platform, the stability of the shooter or vehicle, and the distance to the target.

For specific applications like close air support or vehicle-mounted operations, the minigun’s accuracy is sufficient to achieve its intended purpose. However, for tasks requiring precise targeting, other firearms would be more suitable.

In T2 he was using it suppress fire in certain areas, and move the police away so they aren't a threat, that's something the gun is designed to do. In Terminator Zero, he's trying to hit a single moving target, constantly moving and dodging, thats not something the gun is designed to do.

It's much easier to shoot at something and miss then to actually hit a moving target, especially with a weapon made to suppress fire, and spray and pray. Your example doesn't prove they are a expert marksman because he missed it shows he had the right weapon for the job he needed to do in T2, but in TZero he had the wrong weapon for what he was trying to do.

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Kebron said:

Then how come they never hit main characters until the story needed them to which was hardly ever.

It's a made up story, how accurate and unaccurate they are depends on what the writers want at a particular point.

To say TZero is unbelievable because the Terminator would of hit her with a mini, but ignore all the times in the movies when the Terminators missed their targets is being a bit contradictory.

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chrisstbh said:

Indeed. The protagonists survived being pursued in every other Terminator movie for quite a while.

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T8OO said:

Can you point to a point in T1 or T2 where the target was in front of a terminator with a gun, in plain sight with anywhere near the amount of ammo shown here?

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T8OO said:

I disagree. If I LOVE something I don't want to see it presented in a way that I don't care for.

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Kebron said:

Miniguns, such as the M134, are known for their high rate of fire rather than pinpoint accuracy. They can fire thousands of rounds per minute, which makes them effective for suppressive fire and covering large areas. However, this high rate of fire can also lead to a spread of bullets, reducing precision.

They are designed to hit targets within a certain area rather than a specific point. The accuracy can be influenced by factors such as the mounting platform, the stability of the shooter or vehicle, and the distance to the target.

For specific applications like close air support or vehicle-mounted operations, the minigun’s accuracy is sufficient to achieve its intended purpose. However, for tasks requiring precise targeting, other firearms would be more suitable.

In T2 he was using it suppress fire in certain areas, and move the police away so they aren't a threat, that's something the gun is designed to do. In Terminator Zero, he's trying to hit a single moving target, constantly moving and dodging, thats not something the gun is designed to do.

It's much easier to shoot at something and miss then to actually hit a moving target, especially with a weapon made to suppress fire, and spray and pray. Your example doesn't prove they are a expert marksman because he missed it shows he had the right weapon for the job he needed to do in T2, but in TZero he had the wrong weapon for what he was trying to do.

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EndoSickness said:

This is a change in things. Better support this than the movies before it.

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