1/6 Sideshow Garindan - Scum & Villainy

DrWeaponX · Sep 19, 2024

Not to mention this has so much dated mold reuse. The gloves appear to be identical to the Sideshow X-Wing Luke and the boots look identical to the Sideshow RotJ Luke. Those figures were fine or whatever but even at the time, had plenty of minor issues. To recycle that ~6-8 years later is weak and further falls into question the pricing justification.

karamazov80 · Sep 19, 2024

Asta said:

I initially wasn't going to order, but now. . .am 100% definitely never going to order.

Asta · Sep 19, 2024

Garindan does look the cheapest of the figures so far, and far from his $270 valuation.

Can't believe Sideshow actually used this as one of their promo photos, with the gauntlet separated as though it lacks the friction to keep it connected...

I'll still get him though. :monkey3

Buttmunch · Sep 19, 2024

I have to imagine the higher price point is due to lower expected production runs. The more they make, the more spread out the production costs tend to be. I know Lucasfilm royalties are ridiculous on top of insane licensing fees so a good 1/3 or more of the price is going just to those costs.

Asta · Sep 19, 2024

Buttmunch said:
I worry the lack of exclusive will lead to lower pre-orders/sells and scare Sideshow into making up exclusives for the doc and Labria. Maybe Labria’s cape and Evisian’s vest will be their exclusives?

Sideshow missed a trick with Garindan as the hood could've been a legitimate exclusive, as it was with Ponda's flippers. Two continuity errors, though Ponda always had flippers until his severed arm was shown.

(They had to make something up to create an exclusive for Greedo).

Buttmunch said:
I have to imagine the higher price point is due to lower expected production runs. The more they make, the more spread out the production costs tend to be. I know Lucasfilm royalties are ridiculous on top of insane licensing fees so a good 1/3 or more of the price is going just to those costs.

Especially so with Garindan as I don't expect he's going to be very popular. Labria is likely going to be an even harder sell as he played no active part in the film, though he has more colour and visual appeal.

darth dennis · Sep 19, 2024

Asta said:
Sideshow missed a trick with Garindan as the hood could've been a legitimate exclusive, as it was with Ponda's flippers. Two continuity errors, though Ponda always had flippers until his severed arm was shown.

(They had to make something up to create an exclusive for Greedo).

Especially so with Garindan as I don't expect he's going to be very popular. Labria is likely going to be an even harder sell as he played no active part in the film, though he has more colour and visual appeal.

Yeah, I think they're releasing in the order they think will be most popular, so I expect Labria to be last...although that closeup as you get the feel for the Cantina is pretty memorable. Heck, I'm getting them all because I'm just that dumb...

Asta · Sep 19, 2024

darth dennis said:
Yeah, I think they're releasing in the order they think will be most popular, so I expect Labria to be last...although that closeup as you get the feel for the Cantina is pretty memorable. Heck, I'm getting them all because I'm just that dumb...

I imagined Evazan to be a popular one as he's inseparable from Ponda.

Sideshow may be deliberately leaving him for a bit to give collectors more time to buy Ponda, and then feel the need to get his partner in crime too.

This series, while they aren't Hot Toys quality, feels like an event. Really looking forward to the Jabba's Palace line as that's my favourite location in the OT.

Hoping they'll revisit Momaw Nadon too.

Deinonychus · Sep 19, 2024

I’ll get all of the first wave apart from the devil guy. Not really in to the Jabba’s palace goons. No Gammorean guard teased? I have the black series of him anyway and it’s really good. Now if they did sy Snootles and the band, I’d be interested in those.

Wor-Gar · Sep 19, 2024

Felinx said:
That's the alternate "medieval monk style" (making clear the medieval doctor "snout mask" connection) shorter secondary hood that SSC should have included with the figure.

He only wears that version in the D94 scene, whereas elsewhere he wears the straight head-to-feet hooded cloak.

Yep. I always liked that "medieval" cloak better.

Asta said:
It doesn't seem possible that this is the hooded cloak simply "drawn back at the shoulder making it look a bit different", because it looks much more like a medieval hood. As Felinx wrote, it adds to what appears to have been a plague doctor inspiration for the costume.

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This lightened shot shows that he is wearing a grey tunic with matching sleeves:

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I've never before read about the split-back cloak before, but I've watched the D94 scene forever and -- I agree with you -- it sure looks like a hoodie cape to me. They even tightened it around his neck as one would expect a 'hoodie' to work.

Just seems like one more beautiful inconsistency from good old Star Wars '77 -- redesigning Greedo wear, Garindan wear, etc.

SOU7567 · Sep 19, 2024

This thing looks cheap as hell and shouldn’t be priced above $180.

Felinx · Sep 19, 2024

davejames said:
Yeah at around $220 I'd be buying every one of these. But at the current price will probably just be getting Greedo and Bib Fortuna (assuming they even make it to that second wave).

This is what scares me. With the two big sellers out of the way (Greedo and Walrusman) it's going to be a sharp downhill from here in terms of PO numbers, with a slight bump for Evazan as a nice pairing with Walrusman.

I assume SSC knows this to some degree and won't freak out that Garindan gets 1/3 the orders of Greedo, but what if - due to the price - Labria, Gary and Evazan are more like 1/10 the orders of Greedo?

Will the Jabba goons even make it to PO if the latter three cantina guys are a total wash in terms of PO numbers? :horror

In the end it may be a sad miscalculation that SSC chose Labria and Garindan over Hammerhead and Snaggletooth, and chose Barada over a Gamorrean. Who knows - maybe HT staked out a claim on doing Hammerhead and Gamorrean? They are a truly bizarre omission, especially given SSC did them before.

Wor-Gar · Sep 19, 2024

Felinx said:
what if - due to the price - Labria, Gary and Evazan are more like 1/10 the orders of Greedo?

I think Gary will be huge. Underrated.

Felinx · Sep 19, 2024

Wor-Gar said:
I think Gary will be huge. Underrated.

If he holds the line on PO numbers then he'll earn the name Garindan Glitter. Pose him dancing on a Brooklyn steps dio.

Wor-Gar · Sep 19, 2024

Futurion · Sep 20, 2024

If something is holding up in terms of quality, it is Hammerhead and Gammorrean. Yes, painting can be better, but given that they are decade-old figures, they are fantastic.
Give us different aliens.

matrix69 · Sep 20, 2024

Asta said:
This PDF is a costume replica guide starting off with some research and then showing the progress to the completed costume:

https://pilerud.com/download/save/Garindan_costume_replica_guide_by_Pilerud.pdf

While the second 'cloak', as seen when he's talking to the Sandtrooper, definitely looks like it has an extra short cape (like a cape coat) and a collar, in their research they concluded it was just the same cloak drawn back at the shoulder.

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That's the reference i used for my custom. I love the uniqueness of that head shawl.

I'm not much of a fan of the shorter hood, as it makes him look like little red riding hood.

sithlord13 · Sep 20, 2024

He’s cool but not that cool

Felinx · Sep 20, 2024

I'm right down the middle on this - I really want to support this line and aren't feeling Labria much and don't love the Evazan sculpt (even though I'm about 90% certain I'll get him) so feel compelled to PO Gary. But there's also part of me just wants to mod/retouch my custom's Hasbro head and shorten the cloak and call it a day.... save $300 and have something that will be maybe 80% as good as the SSC fig.

Why-oh-why didn't SSC do these ten years ago? :gah:

No human sculpts/paint, so they would be been close to the same quality as these but priced at around $135-150 (even if bodies might have been crap.)

wormlander · Sep 20, 2024

Asta said:
Really looking forward to the Jabba's Palace line as that's my favourite location in the OT.

Dito...

Dave_W · Sep 20, 2024

Futurion said:
If something is holding up in terms of quality, it is Hammerhead and Gammorrean. Yes, painting can be better, but given that they are decade-old figures, they are fantastic.
Give us different aliens.

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