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Criticising the execution and accuracy of the figure is fair enough but is it really worth posting just to say how much you hate Miller's art? Clearly this figure isn't for you but must accept how popular and influential The Dark Knight Returns was.

For me it's almost perfect and hopefully leads to more comic versions of Batman, Superman, Wonder Woman and other Justice League characters. The better this sells the more likely it is we get those figures.
 
Miller’s art has always been divisive. However, this story came at a time when comics were tanking, big time.

One reason or another, DC okayed a grizzled, old man Bruce Wayne and let Miller run with it - arguably, the pivotal series turned the comic book world upside down.

If this sells, and I think it will, we could get a Joker, Kelly and possibly Supes.
 
sj2106 said:
Criticising the execution and accuracy of the figure is fair enough but is it really worth posting just to say how much you hate Miller's art? Clearly this figure isn't for you but must accept how popular and influential The Dark Knight Returns was.
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Since the design of the figure is based off of Miller's art, I think it's a fair area of discussion. Personally I think Miller's art was at its apex in the late '70s and early '80s, where he was hinting at the expressionism that was mentioned earlier, but still keeping it conventional and aesthetically pleasing. I feel that, yes, he was getting more expressive over time, but also lazier. The simplicity of his later work must take a fraction of time to draw relative to his work on Daredevil. That was also something I observed with John Byrne. He didn't take the time to really flesh out his art starting in the late '80s, and though he is one of my all-time favorite artists, I started checking out by his run on Namor and Wolverine.
 
It's not perfect, but it is very cool. It's even cooler to see DC Comics figure getting some love. Hopefully more will follow.

I can't not chime in on Miller. He used to be a great artist and story teller. The Wolverine has great art. Ronin, 300, and DKR are great to look at. Of course, Lynn Varley's pre-digital coloring adds so much to the art. Miller's stories were great as well- Daredevil is prime long-form, while Batman Year 1 is prime short-form. Sin City is also a fun little world that has some pretty cool art. Beginning with DKSA it was all down hill. The art in that was... not great. Varley's over-the-top digital coloring didn't work. Then All Star Batman and Robin followed. Yeesh. A lot of his work post-2001 feels more like a satirical take on Frank Miller. Edgelord with bad art.
 
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Echoing what a lot of folks have already said: while this wouldn't have been my first choice for a comic-based Batman (mostly because there's already a number of pretty high quality 3rd party versions available), I'm just glad that the floodgates (hopefully) have opened for comic book Batman figures. Neal Adams, Jim Lee Hush, Capullo N52, Year One, etc.
 
bat1975 said:
Echoing what a lot of folks have already said: while this wouldn't have been my first choice for a comic-based Batman (mostly because there's already a number of pretty high quality 3rd party versions available), I'm just glad that the floodgates (hopefully) have opened for comic book Batman figures. Neal Adams, Jim Lee Hush, Capullo N52, Year One, etc.
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Capullo N52 would be a dream. I also wouldn't mind his Rebirth design as I like the purple cape interior.
 
slynger said:
Miller’s art has always been divisive. However, this story came at a time when comics were tanking, big time.

One reason or another, DC okayed a grizzled, old man Bruce Wayne and let Miller run with it - arguably, the pivotal series turned the comic book world upside down.

If this sells, and I think it will, we could get a Joker, Kelly and possibly Supes.
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Um... no? Comics were going strong in the mid 80's. This is the youth of the Direct Market, when Diamond and Capitol were spreading their distribution wings across the industry. It's pre-Image boom, sure, but that was a fairly grotesque speculator bubble that left huge scars in the industry. The early to mid-80's is otherwise legendary for growth.
 
Yeah what a hack. Miller was terrible back in the day. To believe his limited Wolverine series and Daredevil run are some of the most cherished stories of all time. I mean just look at these awful covers??

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How in the world did Marvel let this slip through?? :monkey3

But seriously, somewhere along the road his art took a drastic style change. Miller is an odd duck. He probably did it on purpose to stray as far away from the norm as possible. Creating a new odd style... Just to piss people off.
 
batfan08 said:
I’d die if they followed him up with a Mazzucchelli Year One Bats. That book is so chronically slept on, merchandise/figure/statue-wise and I’ll never understand it because that’s one of the most iconic depictions of the character, in my mind, and it’s perfect for 1/6th…
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Agree.(y) Would likely be my go to 1:6 Batman.
 
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The main thing I like about this figure is the muscle definition without the need for shading the suit. Getting proper muscle definition with spandex has never really gone well with comic related figures imo; so the padded/foam muscle suit really helps. One of my main problems with the Sideshow figures has always been the underlying body appearing to be rather larger and/or muscular, but losing all that once you put the suit over it. Same with trying to use a Phicen body. It's literally one of the main reasons I've always sold off my comic figures.
 
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ZaCHw117 said:
Easy pass. SSR killed this figure and was much cheaper.
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Not sure you’re right about SSR’s being cheaper.

The SSR 1.0 was $428

SSR 2.0 figure was minimum $300 only if bought direct from SSR’s website. If you ordered elsewhere, the 2.0 was around $350 for the standard and around $370-$380 for the deluxe.

The Jaxon version was $280

This HT figure is $255 so much cheaper than both Jaxon’s and SSR’s version
 
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Gipetto0812 said:
Not sure you’re right about SSR’a being cheaper.

The SSR 1.0 was $428

2.0 SSR figure was minimum $300 only if bought direct from SSR’s website. If you ordered elsewhere, the 2.0 was around $350 for the standard and around $370-$380 for the deluxe.

The Jaxon version was $280

This figure is $255 so much cheaper than both Jaxon’s and SSR’s version
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Personally, I wouldn't buy from SSR again, anyway. I bought their Silver Knight and the colour mismatch basically made it worthless.
 

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