1/6 Hot Toys - MMS347 - Deadpool (2016) - Deadpool Collectible Figure

[espio74]

I don't have as much of an extensive knowledge of Hot Toys history as some of you, but what are some examples in the past where Hot Toys (1) publicly admitted there were problems with a release and (2) actually corrected the issue?

I know in the last few years, two prominent issues I can think of are ED-209 v2.0 (same cracking issues as the original) and HT Gamora (fragile arms/elbows that break & rip the rubber skin). I don't recall anything mentioned "officially" by Hot Toys about those issues.

They don't publicly mention fixes unless its prior to release in Hong Kong (ex. fixing Batmans torso), otherwise issues such as this are subtle and go under the radar to avoid panic from the casual consumer.

 

[robbiethepainter]

The only one I remember was John Connor and the painting of his head. There was a "Backstage" pic of Hot Toys showing the head that was released briefly in Hong Kong and the replacement. The big release was fixed but they were offering replacements for those that had gotten the original head.

 

[Motuxmen]

They don't publicly mention fixes unless its prior to release in Hong Kong (ex. fixing Batmans torso), otherwise issues such as this are subtle and go under the radar to avoid panic from the casual consumer.

Sure they do. The mk42 was the most recent one. It's not common to mention because it doesn't happen often, not because they just do it and don't mention it. If a figure where to get a fix after it was released they would mention it. Otherwise there is zero point to doing so.

 

[Captain Planet]

Sure they do. The mk42 was the most recent one. It's not common to mention because it doesn't happen often, not because they just do it and don't mention it. If a figure where to get a fix after it was released they would mention it. Otherwise there is zero point to doing so.

Not zero point. They would get fewer returns than if they hadn't fixed it. Saves them money.

I'm not saying they did or didn't fix it but there is a point in fixing it even if they don't release a statement about it.

 

[RiggsMcClane]

There's been ironmans pink panties, melting batmans, and the comedian issues as well.

 

[wolfcustom]

There's been ironmans pink panties, melting batmans, and the comedian issues as well.

I know of issue with the link panties but nothing of a melting Batman. Nothing but time to kill for sideshow to ship mine out care to elaborate?

 

[TimothyR]

Well.. Once they start shipping, I'm sure we'll find out soon enough.

I'm fine with the scuffing, but if it starts ripping apart, that's when I'll be a bit disappointed.

 

[BH8957]

I'm cautious, but I'm glad the rep I spoke to was right according to recent developments. They did say it was an issue during production and they (Hot Toys) were on it which is why there's a delay, which is what I posted awhile back. Regardless, thank you to everyone that's gone out to try and find out, to try and help those with issues, and to make things like this known so we as costumers can be prepared at the worst to be careful or mindful of possible issues with something we spend our hard earned money on. Either way, when they start arriving, we'll all know pretty quick what's the real deal on these, which is how it's always been anyways, right?

Could that post have been any more neutral and positive? I don't know!

J

 

[RiggsMcClane]

I know of issue with the link panties but nothing of a melting Batman. Nothing but time to kill for sideshow to ship mine out care to elaborate?

Someone in the know may chime in on that. What I read was that one of the batman lines the suits just melted due to a problem with the plastic. Can't remember which figure it was though. i think something similar happened with the comedian figure too.

 

[espio74]

Okay I have a minor nitpick about the figure that I hope someone who owns this deadpool figure can reply to. I noticed in many various poses that his right shoulder pad when his arms are relaxed always leave a small gap (it was glued to his arm in the movie, but I understand that they did it for articulation purposes) My question is can you fiddle with it to have that gap removed by futzing it or is it just there? Here are two examples:

 

[karamazov80]

Someone in the know may chime in on that. What I read was that one of the batman lines the suits just melted due to a problem with the plastic. Can't remember which figure it was though. i think something similar happened with the comedian figure too.

The first run of the DX02 had melty abs. It happened to me. Comedian's vest had the same problem.

 

[RiggsMcClane]

Were you just screwed or did hot toys deal with it?

 

[Motuxmen]

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Not zero point. They would get fewer returns than if they hadn't fixed it. Saves them money.

I'm not saying they did or didn't fix it but there is a point in fixing it even if they don't release a statement about it.

I'm not saying zero point in doing it, but there's zero point in doing it if you don't let people know.

People think that these main issues that get brought up are widespread and effect large amounts of the product(percentage wise) and that's usually not the case. There will always be a 10-20% return/defect rate. Just what happens with mass produced figures. Yes there have been issues with rubber in a couple bat suits, ankles on another...pink panties on iron man. That does not mean it's a widespread issue. There are thousands of each figure. And a few dozen reported problems.

It would be cheaper for hot toys to not recall or update any deadpool issue with sideshow figures because sideshow had already committed to paying for them and hot toys gains nothing by "recalling" them or bringing them back to th factory. But it would cost thousands to check every figure. When you plan to have a couple hundred figures with issues already there's no reason to do a recall/review especially if they don't announce it to let people know so that they don't cancel any potential orders or whatnot.

And since the figures will start shipping the second week of October there's just no way they brought them all back in and did anything to them anyway. The delay between Hong Kong release and when sideshow gets them is the normal delay every figure gets so there's no time for them to have done any mass correction anyway.

If they did a recall be issue of fan pressure or complaints after the Hong Kong release, why exactly would they not let people know about it? Makes no sense. And a few sideshow reps saying they did doesn't amount to them telling people. Trying writing ssc customer service and make up some random reason or rumor that the 1/4 mk45 was delayed(you heard) to fix some totally made up problem and some of those reps will confirm that's why. They will say what they think you want to hear to get you to be satisfied and keep an order, or make an order, or just so they don't sound like you know something they don't. Or a variety of other reasons.

 

[gogul1]

My last flexpay has been marked for the 20th of November now so it's likely to be here in UK in december for me.

 

[TimothyR]

Well, the fact is, the most recent information we have is that they're fixed versions.. So, until we get more up to date information.. I'm just going to go with it. No sense in debating it.

 

[Bjjer]

Unless the problem was caught during production i dont see how HT could have fixed thousands of figures when there already on their way. I hope Im wrong but Occam's Razor tells me they arent fixed.

 

[Optibotimus]

Unless the problem was caught during production i dont see how HT could have fixed thousands of figures when there already on their way. I hope Im wrong but Occam's Razor tells me they arent fixed.

It's ironic you using Occam's Razor when part of it talks about assumptions, which is what you're doing by not having all the facts. I'm not saying you're wrong. Just that you are making assumptions that it WASN'T caught during production and therefore, couldn't have been fixed in time.

 

[Bjjer]

It's ironic you using Occam's Razor when part of it talks about assumptions, which is what you're doing by not having all the facts. I'm not saying you're wrong. Just that you are making assumptions that it WASN'T caught during production and therefore, couldn't have been fixed in time.

Occam's Razor says the simpliest explaination is usually the correct one. Of the 2 scenarios (HT fixed all those figures or they're not fixed) is the most likely scenario?

 

[robbiethepainter]

Okay I have a minor nitpick about the figure that I hope someone who owns this deadpool figure can reply to. I noticed in many various poses that his right shoulder pad when his arms are relaxed always leave a small gap (it was glued to his arm in the movie, but I understand that they did it for articulation purposes) My question is can you fiddle with it to have that gap removed by futzing it or is it just there? Here are two examples:
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It can be minimized by sliding the sleeve down a little while making sure the shoulder joint is in the shrugged position. Like Batman, the suit slides around the body so posing the figure requires posing the suit too, to get the whole thing to look just right.

 

[BH8957]

The thing is when I asked the rep on the phone, it was simply about why the delay with Hot Toys Deadpool, and the rep offered the information about "some issue they found during production that they're fixing", so I didn't offer them anything that would make them come up with that reply. I'm not saying Motu or Opti is right or wrong, just what I've found out in my experience and how that coincides with what we are now hearing. Like everyone says, we'll all find out in a couple weeks. Either way, I'm very excited for the figure and thrilled it's coming.

I did have 1 question of those in the know....
My wife ordered 2 at the time the PO started. Only recently is it "limit one per customer". Does that change anything? They took both deposits...I wouldn't think that would change anything but this is the first time this has happened on something we've PO'd from them and I'd rather not be surprised any more than I'm already going to be with this wrist deal.

Thanks in advance!!!

J