1/6 INART (Queen Studio) - The Dark Knight - Joker Collectible Figure

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Man I really hope they can deliver this.

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I noticed they posted a few new pics on their FB page, including a list of all the accessories. They're describing it as 12 inches tall, but not sure if that's an exact measurement or not...


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I still can't decide which to get. :unsure:

The 1/6 and 1/4 Joker's I had previously always left me wishing I had two figures to display the interrogation and purple coat looks. The two packs take care of that and once you decide to spend $600 the extra $400 doesn't seem a huge amount for the extra realism. Then I remind myself I'd be spending a grand on two dolls :lol

To get the deluxe I'd inevitably have to scale back on other figures/statues. Then I'm worried what comes next? Bane, Selena, Batman, maybe a two pack with rooted hair and immaculately tailored Bruce Wayne.

That's only the Nolan trilogy. We already know they are making a Pattinson figure, must be a good chance of a Zoe Kravitz Catwoman to. BvS trio was mentioned as a possibility.
 
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Kostis isn't coming back. That persona is done.


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I'm passing on the rooted set, obviously. They're dolls, I'm not spending that much money on such a set, especially in these uncertain days. So I'm out from the get-go on that front. But I am glad it turned out like this. Had they offered a solo rooted option at 500$ I'd have been tempted, and that's a slippery slope. There are very, very few characters I'd give that money for, and Joker isn't one of them. That said, I'm definitely in for the sculpted. The way I see it, these rooted versions will be very few and far between, so there's no point for a mid-tier collector like me to even try to obtain them. My Ledger Joker will be paired with my DX19 and that'll be it. They won't be the crown jewels of my collection, just a pair I need to have. I might even put them in the movie shelf, and have my Bat-Shelf be entirely Battinson. We'll see, it's too early. Now I just need to decide from where to get this. I put everything on installments, but I'll have to wait and see if my usual store carries it. Otherwise it's OSK. I'll give it some time, see if HT puts up their MK for PO too, try and juggle it all. I do have to say that it looks stunning though. I don't think I'll even wait and see if HT releases a 3.0; what'd be the point?

Beyond that, I'm curious to see how far they'll take this. Ledger Joker is one thing. But who's going to buy two Grey Gandals and two White Gandals and two Resurrection Neos and two Legolas...i? and so forth, if that's the only way they'll do rooted versions. Unless of course the two-pack was a one time thing and they'll shift gears, doing sculpted and rooted releases of the long-haired characters, and regular sculpted for the shorter haired ones. We'll see soon enough, I suppose. Oh, and I do hope they don't ship within 8 months or some such; I'm fine waiting 1.5 years and spacing it all out. I don't need that much pressure.

The million dollar question here is how these changes will impact the hobby as a whole. Whether we'll see it moving towards rooted, magnetic bases and the such. But it's too early, and the times too unpredictable, so I think for the time being things will continue as is. Still, it's something to ponder.

Now the one I'm anxious for is their Paul. The rooted will tempt me here, but it'll depend on pricing, edition sizes, and so on. In either case, I'm waiting.

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  1. It's been 10 years; I needed a change.
  2. The all-lowercase front was pissing me off.
  3. It was IP-specific (darth = Star Wars) instead of more generalised, so I didn't feel right if my profile pics and the such weren't following the same pattern, leaving me with fewer options.
  4. Like I said in the Obi-Wan thread, it was time to move on.
I got tired of maintaining the facade with the huge blogposts. The repetition was too much. Stream of consciousness can be relaxing, but going all out is taxing. It's time to be more real, less exagerrated.

True in a sense, but Victor’s a regular, everyday name apart from that, so it’s far more malleable. It can go with anything.

Blah blah blah

Doom was taken. Am I right?. :lol
 
I wish they had tried harder to get the sculpted hair more accurate, as it just looks way too thick on his head compared to the rooted. And not sure why they couldn't have at least matched the color better.


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I wish they had tried harder to get the sculpted hair more accurate, as it just looks way too thick on his head compared to the rooted. And not sure why they couldn't have at least matched the color better.


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The sculpted hair still looks better than the DX 11.
 
Im not sure why people think this was a *** at Hot Toys.

Queen Studios just wanted to put a product out that they know people will buy, so that's exactly what they did.

They know they have a good product, regardless of what it does to Hot Toys.

As a business, its money for them.
Not a *** but theyre choice to kick off with the joker is a strategic move
 
We are china base company, technically Queen is selling their product within China, I don’t have any agreement with licensor :p

for example most of threezero license aren’t worldwide license but they do distribute their product worldwide, no one stop them since day one
Huh. I had no idea Threezeros licenses weren't all global. :unsure: Always assumed that they were. I guess they just don't care lol

I wish they had tried harder to get the sculpted hair more accurate, as it just looks way too thick on his head compared to the rooted. And not sure why they couldn't have at least matched the color better.
That's exactly why people pay for rooted though. Rooted will always look thinner and better than sculpted if done right.

That's the key part to it though, IF it's done right. None of that Barbie plastic style Hot Toys does.

But even then, I think Queen did a really good job with the sculpted hair on this. If they didn't offer a rooted hair option, I would have 100% went with the sculpted version and be happy with it. It looks fantastic all things considered. Never understood why Hot Toys sculpted his hair as if he combed it behind his ears. Should be falling down the left side of his face.

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I mean this as respectfully as possible…but is it possible that you may be spending way too much time thinking about…ALL of this?
Not really; it's a username. It takes a minute, two, ten, tops, to pick one. I have the same system across all forums, social media and the such. I cycle through a couple of real world names I like, as they're less restrictive. You may outgrow a character or property; why be stuck with it as a handle when you can just use an actual "fake" name you like?

I just like uniformality.

Blah blah blah

Doom was taken. Am I right?. :lol
I honestly didn't check. I like the name "Victor" independently, which was the point.

Very much agree with all of this, I would've considered a rooted standard version for $500, but locking it to a double pack that will cost over $1000 completely killed my interest in getting the rooted versions.
Ultimately I am glad they went this way, as such an option would've been tempting. But even then I would've passed. I liked Ledger's Joker, I want one on my shelf, same as a Baleman, but they're not absolute grail figures that'd warrant me dropping top dollar. I can think of maybe 5 characters I love enough to go the extra mile, but the whole point of these higher prices is the rooted hairpiece, which needs a character with long hair. What could be done to, say, a Vader, to make him cost that much? Better materials? Metal? So as it stands I see no real reason for me to make any sort of "switch" yet.

I'm also waiting to see what Hot Toys will do with their new Joker, the ball's in their court now, say they release two versions of the Joker, regular one for around $300 and then a rooted for $500, seamless arms and all, it could happen, QS announcing this first could force Hot Toys to actually try with the sculpt and innovate if they want to come out on top.
I'll wait a bit, because I want to see how Hot Toys handles the oncoming MCU & SW shows and movies. I'm moving forward with my pre-planned list and picking what's best. But with the price here being competitive, and with the figure looking as good as it does, what'd be the point of waiting for a DX 3.0 HT Joker? More accessories I suppose, two headsculpts, something like that. I'll give it some time, as I don't think the regular edition of the QS will be selling out in a week, but I won't wait that much.

The other figures won't sell as well as Joker so they shouldn't pull this double pack nonsense, especially with characters like Paul and Neo, I would say they should just do one sculpt for all figures moving forward so they can just have a regular and rooted version, I feel that would be less taxing for Viper or whoever is rooting these and would give folks the opportunity to grab more rooted figures.
That's what I was thinking of as well. Ledger's Joker is a unique character in the hobby as well as cinema and pop culture, so I can see people paying the price. But everyone else? Not a chance. I'm not sure Resurrections Neo will sell as is, let alone with rooted hair, and that's not even getting into any hypothetical 1K$ Double-Packs.

Paul's the only one who'd tempt me to buy with rooted hair, but it'll all depend on when he goes up for Pre-Order, how it's handled, etc. If it's a single-figure edition, if they put it up towards the end of the year, and if I can get it on installments, then I can add him to my 2023 slate which is a lot cleaner, and afford him. Otherwise it's the classic sculpted.

I don't think it will impact the hobby that much, all these things have been done before but just never got this much attention, seamless arms and magnetic bases are something most brands could do, diecast weapons sound fancy but the cast on those always loses the detail you get with plastic, the one thing that could change the hobby is the rooted hair, IF it turns out like the proto, that would be bad news though because then you would see everyone raising their prices in order to produce those figures.
Good points all around. As for the rooted hair, I don't know. It looks great with the longer haired characters, but would people really pay such amounts for Captain America's unmasked, short-haired headsculpt? The characters you can do in this format that genuinely warrant it are limited. If it becomes a tonal shift and every figure starts trying to incorporate rooted hair, then the vast majority of customers will be locked out of it. Granted, we went from ~200$ per figure to ~300$, but that's in the span of a decade. Do a 200$ jump in this era, and you're definitely losing the average customer. Unless it becomes a more common extra option in addition to the normal edition, which would make sense. The figures that warrant it get it, the "big guys" go for the rooted version, and everyone else just keeps going, business as usual.

Personally, even if I could afford it, I am not sure I would make the jump. Unless you're limiting yourself to 10, 20 pieces, all of which can have their own spotlight on a shelf/cabinet, then I don't see the point. They'll all blend together in a multi-figure display and the extra realism will be lost. A series of 2-3 figure vignettes and some solos all in their own cases I understand, and it'd look splendid. Rebuying, say, the entire Avengers line, but this time with rooted hair doesn't seem logical to me. I'm in this scale to build some displays, so I don't need that much realism. Try me again in 10 years when I'm done with 1/6th and making the jump in 1/4th for 20 characters in all, and then I'd be tempted to go the whole way.
 
Hmm, really not sold on this to be honest.

The tailoring doesn't seem too great with the coat being really thick and stiff, you get a lot I suppose for the price of the two pack, but personally I'd rather get a better 1/6 custom sculpt and a parted out body.

Will see what JND offers for 1/6 to see if I'm pulled back into it; as it stands I'm not too wowed by it; especially the two sculpts being very similar.
 
Hmm, really not sold on this to be honest.

The tailoring doesn't seem too great with the coat being really thick and stiff, you get a lot I suppose for the price of the two pack, but personally I'd rather get a better 1/6 custom sculpt and a parted out body.

Will see what JND offers for 1/6 to see if I'm pulled back into it; as it stands I'm not too wowed by it; especially the two sculpts being very similar.
Are we looking at the same figure? lol
 
Are we looking at the same figure? lol

Wait this is the Peacemaker thread right? :lol

Nah, don't get me wrong, this is clearly so far the best 1/6 licensed offering for TDK Joker on the market. I'm just personally not sold on it mostly for reasons outside of what the figure is. If I were to get this it would be with the expectation to get other 1/6 of this caliber, but I don't trust that QS will create a consistent line of bases to bring a coherence to the collection - for me if you go to high quality realism and intricate detail then diorama bases or diverseness in bases detract from how they look; so for me something like what JND does with their bases should be the gold standard.

I'm just not sure there's anything that I'm seeing to convince me to go into high-end 1/6th. For 1000 more I can get a 1/3 statue with immaculate tailoring.

For others this is easily the best offering in 1/6 outside of customs that will be a complete threat to Hot Toys. If I were firmly 1/6 then I would be excited to get this. I don't completely think QS history of proto to production has been as great as people say it is, but with Vipers work on the 1/4 Joker I think he can easily bring that together with the 1/6 as he did with the 1/4 statue.

I'd have to see how this one turns out to be tempted to get anything like it in the future; perhaps I'll regret missing out on it, who knows. But I can see other companies like JND and whomever else arises really making the 1.6 market interesting again.
 
Also I do love how much this is going to shake up the licensing game. Company like Hot Toys who ruled and stuck with the same IP's over and over. Now a company like this and from the off-set, fair enough producing WB's only pretty much, but LotR, TDK, Matrix, Dune. Can easily see them getting more film characters made that aren't just big IP, hopefully.
 
Standard for me. It looks good enough for me to represent the character.
No way I'm gonna pay 1000 USD + shipping + import tax for two figures, even if they are really awesome. That's two months food for my family...
I think I’m going with the rooted version. Thanks to inflation, it’s only one months worth of food here, plus we need to lose a little weight anyway :LOL: :LOL: :LOL:
 
I don't know which version try to buy... I'm super undecided.
I'd try and answer these questions:
  • How much extra money do I have to spend on something relatively "useless"?
  • Do I like this character so much so that I'd own two figures of the same exact look, but with minor variations?
  • Is this character amongst my favourites to such an extent that I'd pay any price to own them in the best version I can find, the price be damned?
  • Is my collection structured in such a way that such a figure, in that form, has a place in it?
  • What else do I have in my schedule, at the very least 1/6th-wise?
By the end, you'll know where you're truly leaning towards.
 
I'd try and answer these questions:
  • How much extra money do I have to spend on something relatively "useless"?
  • Do I like this character so much so that I'd own two figures of the same exact look, but with minor variations?
  • Is this character amongst my favourites to such an extent that I'd pay any price to own them in the best version I can find, the price be damned?
  • Is my collection structured in such a way that such a figure, in that form, has a place in it?
  • What else do I have in my schedule, at the very least 1/6th-wise?
By the end, you'll know where you're truly leaning towards.
My main problem is that I'm happy with a single figure, but if the rest of the collection like Gandalf, Legolas, are rooted hair... I think in the future I'll regret no buy it. I have to admit that I like the diorama display too. It's like hey! this is the future.

If just QS offered single rooted hair my choice would be done for sure.
 
I think some are freaking out that these figures will always have two packs. This is just one. I think they are watching the community closely.

Im fairly certain Gandalf won’t have a two pack, and they will probably offer single versions of sculpted and rooted hair. I also feel that a character like Gandalf, won’t benefit from sculpted hair. Who knows.
 
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