Darklord Dave said:
We had this kind of bellyaching before Obi was in hand and everyone was fine with him when they actually got him.
You all are completely and totally overreacting in judging something you haven't seen.
How can you say that when it seems the overwhelming majority of us are not happy with this figure? Sure some of you will be content with it because you can customize it or rub it in mud or whatever you guys do that many of us would never dream of doing to a figure we just opened out the box. Maybe some of you old schoolers are just so desensatized to getting figures from SSC that look nothing like the images you were sold on that you just "accept" it now. Either way there's no denying SSC is having the biggest boom in customers since starting the SW and LOTR lines and that many of us new customers don't fall into either of those two catagories and are getting tired already of the disappointment in seeing how most of these figures are turning out and if they want to keep this huge new fanbase they need to start going the extra mile to make these figures better. Waiting almost a year in excitement only to be let down in 1 second of seeing the final product sucks and lots of us are getting sick of it and considering not continuing to buy from them which is something they should be very concerned about.
This " wait until you see it in hand" bit is tired and played out. I've heard that on every figure and guess what? Every single one of them looked exactly like the myriad of pictures posted all across the web before I got them. The pics don't lie and it's very plain to see what the figure looks like through them.The only difference is that you're seeing it and all of it's problems on a smaller scale when it's in your hands.
Also while Obi-wan's head sculpt was definitely a dissapointment from what was shown on the prototype, at least his costume was still pretty much like what was shown originally. Aragorn doesn't even have that 50% of satisfaction backing him up as he is a drastic change in every aspect from what we were shown all along.
The simple fact is there's no denying the final product is a pale imitation of what we were sold on to a level that it will be shown and pointed out everytime a new SSC fan stirs up this debate whenever he or she brings up the now common question "why does my figure not look like the prototype?"
He's not as bad an example as say, Pamela Vorhees, but he's damn close in terms of being such a drastic change in quality from the proto it's almost laughable.
jlcmsu said:
So SS is lying? Or I should say you're calling SS a company of liars? Prototype means it could change. I'm not sure where folks don't seem to understand that. Not to mention we don't know why some changes happen.
C'mon dude, you seem smarter than that.
Quit letting your personal feeling towards SSC get in the way and look at this situation from a casual or new SSC collector for once.
No one is outright calling them liars but how crappy is it that they showed all of the amazing protos at SDCC and made people who know nothing about SSC think that those actual figures could be bought for $65? If those people happen to read this or any other forum and see what they really would get, they will probably scoff and decide they don't want to waste their money on a company that can't deliver the goods like they seemed to promise.
I know that when I ordered my first SSC figure I was freaking out in excitement that I was going to be getting the figures in the pics and only when I started reading this site did I face the harsh reality that SSC is famous for showing one thing and delivering something entirely different almost every time. I've given them the benefit of the doubt and am continuing to see how they turn out but I'm not making $100,000 a year and can't afford to keep playing the guessing game as to whether or not my figure will look like crap once I get it.
Whether some here will accept it or not, SSC
is going to lose a lot of it's customers buying these 2 lines unless there is a considerable rise in the quality of the figures or unless they lower our expectations based on what we see at ordering time.
Like I said before, the fact these prototype pics are being used to sell totally inferior products
is the very definition of a bait and switch in a sense.
Since it seems to me as a new customer that they can't get their final version to match what we saw all along then they should tone down the work on the protos and make what they think it will end up like when it's ready to ship.
It's not cool to get us all excited that we're getting this fantastic figure and then ship us something that looks like a cheap knock-off from Taiwan. I still hope SSC does a major turn-around and the figures start turning out better but if we all sit on our hands and commend them for making halfass figures by making excuses for them, nothing will change.
I know you're a major LOTR fan more than a Star Wars one and I have even sensed a lot of disappointment in your posts about this figure since the first pics of the production version came out. You seem to be struggling now with doing your regular "cheerleader" bit (not taking a jab- it's that's your thing, fine) and wanting to express your true feeling like the rest of us and just say "hey, this figure sucks compared to what we thought we were getting".
