22,000 dead in Myanmar

[8th wonder]

That regime should just be overthrown, they burned people alive there, they killed peaceful buddhist monks and they wont do allot for the victims of this disaster neither. If i were the leader of a strong country i would have send an army there to eradicate that junta regime.

 

[MaulFan]

That regime should just be overthrown, they burned people alive there, they killed peaceful buddhist monks and they wont do allot for the victims of this disaster neither. If i were the leader of a strong country i would have send an army there to eradicate that junta regime.

All nice in theory, but the way the political world is today, it's such a damned if you do damned if you don't world. If you step in there and try to free them from oppression, some other power will get pissed at you for butting in and go after you for it, and if you don't help you're looked at like an ^^^^^^^ for not helping.

 

[8th wonder]

All nice in theory, but the way the political world is today, it's such a damned if you do damned if you don't world. If you step in there and try to free them from oppression, some other power will get pissed at you for butting in and go after you for it, and if you don't help you're looked at like an ^^^^^^^ for not helping.

Very true but the junta in Myanmar is pretty secluded they don't have any real allies. We have a responsibility in this world as more advanced countries to free people from tyranical regimes. But myanmar doesnt have any riches to exploit so our governments don't really care.

 

[MaulFan]

Very true but the junta in Myanmar is pretty secluded they don't have any real allies. We have a responsibility in this world as advanced countries to free people from tyranical regimes. But myanmar doesnt have any riches to exploit so our governments don't really care.

They may not have allies, but doesn't mean some nations with enemies wouldn't have their enemies finding it opportunistic to step in. I'm sure there are places that hate the U.S. and look down on it for Iraq. If the U.S. steps in too far in Myanmar I'm sure it's enemies would use it as fuel to the fire. Ideally, all the nations of the world should work in harmony to keep regimes like this at bay, but unfortunately, there is no way to reach an aggreement on how things should be, so there will always be conflict, it's the nature of humanity. Hell, this board can't go without conflict because of opposing sides on an issue, how could the world's nations ever aggree.

 

[8th wonder]

They may not have allies, but doesn't mean some nations with enemies wouldn't have their enemies finding it opportunistic to step in. I'm sure there are places that hate the U.S. and look down on it for Iraq. If the U.S. steps in too far in Myanmar I'm sure it's enemies would use it as fuel to the fire. Ideally, all the nations of the world should work in harmony to keep regimes like this at bay, but unfortunately, there is no way to reach an aggreement on how things should be, so there will always be conflict, it's the nature of humanity. Hell, this board can't go without conflict because of opposing sides on an issue, how could the world's nations ever aggree.

Your right, it wont happen, i know. I can still dream about destroying the myanmar junta ^^^^ers can't i.

 

[MaulFan]

Your right, it wont happen, i know. I can still dream about destroying the myanmar junta ^^^^ers can't i.

Or get RAMBO on DVD at the end of the month and watch him _______ and ______ and especially________ , don't know if you've seen the movie so don't want to spoil it but I imagine you'd be satisfied with the outcome.

 

[Voorhees27]

Or get RAMBO on DVD at the end of the month and watch him _______ and ______ and especially________ , don't know if you've seen the movie so don't want to spoil it but I imagine you'd be satisfied with the outcome.

Man when it rains it pours! I feel so bad for these people, its hard to comprehend the thought as to why these people are to die in such large numbers in our present. God be with them all, this is a sad day people, very sad!

God help us all, I wish we could all learn from this, there is something wrong there, something incredibly wrong. At least we had a bit of an understanding thanks to Stallone.

 

[MaulFan]

God help us all, I wish we could all learn from this, there is something wrong there, something incredibly wrong. At least we had a bit of an understanding thanks to Stallone.

Yup, in the end movie's are about making money, but Sly wanted to give another story and bring awareness. RAMBO is one of the most humbling films I've ever seen, everytime I get wrapped up in the petty B.S. of day to day life I try to remind myself of the horrors that movie brought to light, suddenly things aren't so bad.

 

[8th wonder]

Yup, in the end movie's are about making money, but Sly wanted to give another story and bring awareness. RAMBO is one of the most humbling films I've ever seen, everytime I get wrapped up in the petty B.S. of day to day life I try to remind myself of the horrors that movie brought to light, suddenly things aren't so bad.

Does that movie show what they do to the common people and buddhist monks and is Rambo actually doing something about it? In the trailer it seems Rambo is only there to resque christian missionaries. Haven't seen it yet.

 

[MaulFan]

Does that movie show what they do to the common people and buddhist monks and is Rambo actually doing something about it? In the trailer it seems Rambo is only there to resque christian missionaries. Haven't seen it yet.

I won't spoil it much, but the film opens with real footage of the atrocities that go on in the region as well as having the Burmese army in the film commit similar acts. Rambo's main drive is to help rescue Christian missionaries but to do so, he shows the Burmese no mercy in disgust of what the region has become. While it's not Rambo's duty to deal with it, the film certainly spares nothing to show how horrible the region is.

 

[Bardoon]

I lived in Thailand for 6 years (due to my father's occupation) and I was all around the country and even in Myanmar (or Burma...whichever you prefer).

Several years ago when the big tsunami hit Southeast Asia it was tough because I had BEEN to a lot of those places that were struck by the wave. Phuket, Phi Phi Island. It was somewhat surreal.

Myanmar is a poor country, the most I remember was being at the border between it and Thailand and you could vastly see the difference between the way the people looked and dressed. My heart goes out to those people.

 

[Anzik]

It would be nice if we could give freedom to everyone. I can't think of a greater gift than to be released from the control of people like that. Imagine being forced to live and work in those low lying areas without the freedom to even flee for your life.

 

[devilof76]

Seems Al Gore is already running his mouth about the cyclone being a consequence of global warming. It's nice to know he's not the kind of opportunist who would take advantage of tens of thousands of deaths to advance his personal political agenda.

I didn't see him blaming all the snow this winter on his pet myth.

 

[Shai]

 

[pixletwin]

It would be nice if we could give freedom to everyone. I can't think of a greater gift than to be released from the control of people like that. Imagine being forced to live and work in those low lying areas without the freedom to even flee for your life.

Sounds like New Orleans to me....

 

[ProgMatinee]

Sounds like New Orleans to me....

The duty of the government IMO extends to allowing people to leave or stay. Not to force them to leave or force them to stay.

Most people in New Orleans had a chance to leave but a lot of them chose to ride it out. Many chose wrong.

 

[devilof76]

The duty of the government IMO extends to allowing people to leave or stay. Not to force them to leave or force them to stay.

Or to provide them with the means. It might have been a nice perk (as I understand it, New Orleans is exceptionally accustomed to indulging government 'perks'), but it sure as hell was no one's duty but their own.

 

[pixletwin]

You think its any different in 3rd countries? All I know is whenever there is a hurricane or a volcanic explosion in the Philippines, those people do not want to leave their houses (even if its built on the slope of the friggin volcanoe) because that is all they have. They have to send the army in to force people out and even then people don't leave.

 

[ProgMatinee]

I agree. Though I think the gov should do what they can if only because offering, say, free bus rides out of town is cheaper than rescuing people off rooftops or searching for dead bodies. Not to say the gov didn't do stuff. I don't know.

 

[pixletwin]

All of that aside, it really wouldn't surprise me if the Mayanmar government wanted to just wipe out a % of the population. Seriously.