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[jye4ever]

Both of you laid it out perfectly way better than I could ever do lol


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[rushmore223]

Both of you laid it out perfectly way better than I could ever do lol


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You did just fine.


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[darthviper107]

Yeah. I like the "answer" that 'there's nothing else out there'... spooky, and helps keep your feet on the ground so to speak (despite the fact that I don't believe that message)... but maybe the movie would be more interesting if it had followed the father and his descent into madness chasing this answer at all costs only to be disappointed by his findings. Then, at the end, his son -- the family he left behind -- comes to 'rescue' him.

Either that, or make it more like Capt Nemo (or The Black Hole) where one of the father's scientists is carrying the story from his POV watching this mad man come apart. He could be a kind of conscious character.

In any event, I gained nothing from following the son across the solar system.

The idea that they could say that there's nothing out there is also very dumb, they can't possibly analyze much of what's out there.

 

[generalszabo]

Yeah. I like the "answer" that 'there's nothing else out there'... spooky, and helps keep your feet on the ground so to speak (despite the fact that I don't believe that message)... but maybe the movie would be more interesting if it had followed the father and his descent into madness chasing this answer at all costs only to be disappointed by his findings. Then, at the end, his son -- the family he left behind -- comes to 'rescue' him.

Either that, or make it more like Capt Nemo (or The Black Hole) where one of the father's scientists is carrying the story from his POV watching this mad man come apart. He could be a kind of conscious character.

In any event, I gained nothing from following the son across the solar system.

Showing both sides would have been cool, there were little nods to suggest his dad found intelligent life which added to the mystery. The ending felt very unsatisfying despite the valid meaning behind it, I guess it just needed to be executed better which is a shame as I liked the rest of the film a lot

 

[e30ernest]

I never got over the start. The entire premise of the movie was odd to me. Why does Tommy Lee need to fly all the way to Neptune to find life on other star systems? The vastness of space doesn't make moving to Neptune substantially closer to other stars to see them better. The whole thing about going to Neptune to escape the sun's magnetic fields is also nonsense since the Heliosphere extends way beyond Neptune. The whole SETI thing could have been done on Earth or in Earth orbit.

Because of how absurd the premise was, I was waiting for there to be a twist: Maybe they had to go to Neptune because they found something there? Nope.

I did like the moon fight though. I also liked how they kept space quiet.

 

[Khev]

Wow, I just read the entire plot on www.thedigitalbits.com. What an absolutely ridiculous sounding film.

 

[TaliBane]

I never got over the start. The entire premise of the movie was odd to me. Why does Tommy Lee need to fly all the way to Neptune to find life on other star systems? The vastness of space doesn't make moving to Neptune substantially closer to other stars to see them better. The whole thing about going to Neptune to escape the sun's magnetic fields is also nonsense since the Heliosphere extends way beyond Neptune. The whole SETI thing could have been done on Earth or in Earth orbit.

Because of how absurd the premise was, I was waiting for there to be a twist: Maybe they had to go to Neptune because they found something there? Nope.

I did like the moon fight though. I also liked how they kept space quiet.

Yeah, have to say this movie has a solid Pitt performance, a few fun visuals (monkeys and moon car/gun chases, ideas that felt like either from another movie or studio exec "trailer visuals" notes) and some nice FX but it ultimately felt like more a pedantic fan's blend of 2001 and Apocalypse Now but without the massive thematic power those films have. The father/son thing just wasn't handled in an engaging or powerful way, and the ending has to be one of the most anti-climactic endings in recent memory. Almost clumsy.

The other issue was, as ernest says, I had no clue what was going on plot-wise in this movie - what the pulses were exactly, why anti-matter was involved, why Tommy Lee Jones went crazy (Kurtz in Apocalypse it's obvious - in this he's simply analyzing planet data) how and why TL Jones was creating those pulses, how Brad Pitt was in any way like his father (other than the obvious) enough to make confronting him interesting. I get it's one of those movies where you can say "none of that matters"... but it actually does.

I did like the overall vibe of the way Pitt travels through the movie world, very 2001/Pan-Am etc, but this movie did bring to mind many other space movies - 2010, Event Horizon, Outland etc - more often than I'd have liked, but maybe that's just inevitable in a spacecraft/Mars/Moon movie.

 

[jimcap]

Man is haunted by the specter of his father his whole life. So, he travels millions of miles to let go of him. Literally! The end!