Alien vs. Predator 2 - Official Movie Thread

[wookster]

Well I'm glad they've gone for a leaner classic Predator look, but why not go for the classic Giger Alien head as well?
I guess it'll look good when HT have given us ALL the various alien versions, to see how it evolved and devolved, but give me the smooth look everytime.

 

[Dark_Spidey]

Giger's smooth design would look weird in an AVP film imho. Cameron's design looks much more agressive, especially when there are many warriors on screen.

That's a nice poster btw!

 

[MaulFan]

The film makes said that from the Alien side of this film, they were shooting to homage Cameron's ALIENS, the main reason for the Cameronesque design to the warriors, and I belive other elements will also be attempts to pay tribute to Cameron's film. That's the sole purpose for the warrior's look in this film. And in AVP fashion, the first film's warriors were their reflection of a Giger design, no matter how off from it it was, it had the Giger element of the smooth domed head.

 

[Grange Wallis]

Big FYI Guys and Girls!

2nd Trailer up and IGN.com

CLICK HERE!!!!

I'm at work and can't view flash - Grrrr - how is it??

 

[FACEBOX]

I love the swimming alien scene.

The chestburster swarm gave my the chills, not to mention the "Silent Night" song at the end.

 

[The Chaver]

The film makes said that from the Alien side of this film, they were shooting to homage Cameron's ALIENS, the main reason for the Cameronesque design to the warriors, and I belive other elements will also be attempts to pay tribute to Cameron's film. That's the sole purpose for the warrior's look in this film. And in AVP fashion, the first film's warriors were their reflection of a Giger design, no matter how off from it it was, it had the Giger element of the smooth domed head.

Yeah it's funny that they would even consider that after Cameron said
in an interview that they've ruined the whole franchise with these Alien vs Predator movies.

 

[MaulFan]

Yeah it's funny that they would even consider that after Cameron said
in an interview that they've ruined the whole franchise with these Alien vs Predator movies.

Ya, these guys would almost do themselves a favor if they never acknowledged the Alien or Predator franchises; everytime they speak of them, there's an arrogant tone of confidence like they have captured the good parts of the old films in these new ones, and clearly fans have spoken and they haven't achieved that goal. I think this film is going to benefit from a more open set. With a whole town to run around in, opens things up for more interesting action as opposed to a pyramid with finite options.

 

[The Chaver]

Ya, these guys would almost do themselves a favor if they never acknowledged the Alien or Predator franchises; everytime they speak of them, there's an arrogant tone of confidence like they have captured the good parts of the old films in these new ones, and clearly fans have spoken and they haven't achieved that goal. I think this film is going to benefit from a more open set. With a whole town to run around in, opens things up for more interesting action as opposed to a pyramid with finite options.

They definitely have not captured the good parts,instead have concentrated on just the shock aspect and have in fact pumped it up with steriods.The old movies had a few key scenes were they showed some nice gore but left the rest for the imagination.Shock is great in all but don't think that you can make a strong character film with the names Aliens & Pedator in it and not have the main focus be the story and the characters.Just look at the first Predator Holy shnikes that was one hell of fu%#ing movie.All the actors in that movie had strong characters and I mean all of them.The first AVP had some good story but man the characters and the acting was below B movie level,and the screwed up thing about it was that there "were" some decent actors in it.I personally think the guys directing it seriously dont have any talent,but I'll give the second AVP a chance since the trailer did look pretty cool,although I think they showed way too much in it,perhaps even the ending.But if I start hearing that it wasn't that great or that it sucked I'm gonna wait for the DVD.

 

[Grange Wallis]

They definitely have not captured the good parts,instead have concentrated on just the shock aspect and have in fact pumped it up with steriods.The old movies had a few key scenes were they showed some nice gore but left the rest for the imagination.Shock is great in all but don't think that you can make a strong character film with the names Aliens & Pedator in it and not have the main focus be the story and the characters.Just look at the first Predator Holy shnikes that was one hell of fu%#ing movie.All the actors in that movie had strong characters and I mean all of them.The first AVP had some good story but man the characters and the acting was below B movie level,and the screwed up thing about it was that there "were" some decent actors in it.I personally think the guys directing it seriously dont have any talent,but I'll give the second AVP a chance since the trailer did look pretty cool,although I think they showed way too much in it,perhaps even the ending.But if I start hearing that it wasn't that great or that it sucked I'm gonna wait for the DVD.

I concur with this... I like seeing the start of the violence and gore and leave the rest to my imagination. I do think it'd be hard to comprise a movie of these to characters because in Predator 1 more so than 2... You like the humans and root for them, but you kind of like & root for the Predator and it's has more of an action "suspense" feel to the movie. Where with Alien you hate the Alien and root for Ripley, Bishop, Hicks & co and want the Alien/s dead and killed because they are so damn scary and in those movies. In Alien & to Less of affect Aliens, the suspense is more "thriller/horror" suspense, imo... I remember the first time I watch Alien; I had to turn the volume off... The suspense with the music was scaring the hell out of my 11 year old self! So it'd be hard to manage the tension of the Alien movie with the action of the Predator whilst give human characters the time to make you want to like and root for them...

Basically, I think they should have done Alien 1 type movie again with a small swam of Aliens terrorising a small team of Astronauts after 2 or more team members get attacked by face huggers after investigating a mysterious vessel. Then have a Predator sneak on board the ship and try to Cap every one in the ship, including the Aliens... With scenes where the Predator would save a Human/s from an Alien, only turn on the human/s to claim their skulls. It would be great because you'd be like, what's going to attack them the Alien or the Predator... Then the ending could be a mix between blowing the predator out of the air lock, taking his nuke and use it to blow up the ship with the alien in it whilst the survivor would escape in a pod, doomed to be stuck in hyper sleep until the sequel... Done!... Just pay some decent half name actors to star, get Cameron or Scott to direct (thrown an arm & a leg at them) and get a quality composer and Bob's your dad's brother! Cinematic History!

 

[The Chaver]

I concur with this... I like seeing the start of the violence and gore and leave the rest to my imagination. I do think it'd be hard to comprise a movie of these to characters because in Predator 1 more so than 2... You like the humans and root for them, but you kind of like & root for the Predator and it's has more of an action "suspense" feel to the movie. Where with Alien you hate the Alien and root for Ripley, Bishop, Hicks & co and want the Alien/s dead and killed because they are so damn scary and in those movies. In Alien & to Less of affect Aliens, the suspense is more "thriller/horror" suspense, imo... I remember the first time I watch Alien; I had to turn the volume off... The suspense with the music was scaring the hell out of my 11 year old self! So it'd be hard to manage the tension of the Alien movie with the action of the Predator whilst give human characters the time to make you want to like and root for them...

Basically, I think they should have done Alien 1 type movie again with a small swam of Aliens terrorising a small team of Astronauts after 2 or more team members get attacked by face huggers after investigating a mysterious vessel. Then have a Predator sneak on board the ship and try to Cap every one in the ship, including the Aliens... With scenes where the Predator would save a Human/s from an Alien, only turn on the human/s to claim their skulls. It would be great because you'd be like, what's going to attack them the Alien or the Predator... Then the ending could be a mix between blowing the predator out of the air lock, taking his nuke and use it to blow up the ship with the alien in it whilst the survivor would escape in a pod, doomed to be stuck in hyper sleep until the sequel... Done!... Just pay some decent half name actors to star, get Cameron or Scott to direct (thrown an arm & a leg at them) and get a quality composer and Bob's your dad's brother! Cinematic History!

This is true,and yeah they should have made another Alien 1 type movie.Ridley Scott once said in an interview that he wanted to do another Alien film but this time do an Alien prequel,were you could show how the aliens were discovered and how they got to LV-426.Or maybe elaborate on the Space Jockey crew and how they lost control of there ship.Or maybe elaborate more on the whole idea that they used the Aliens species for bio warfare,you know an epic Alien war movie.I think focusing on the Space-Jockey species would be great change of direction in a new way,and with today's technology they could pull it off.There's even a possibility to add humans and predators into the mix,or both ideas I talked about above,but slowly through more prequels.

Man.. why I can think this sh%# up and they can't boggles my mind.

 

[Kuzeh]

The Green Band trailer looks awesome! I saw it with Death Sentence, but missed a few details. Can't wait for the movie!!

 

[abake]

So this one's different from the "countdown" trailer?

 

[Kuzeh]

Yes it is!
You should check it out!

 

[abake]

Saw it, some cool new scenes.

 

[Rob]

This is true,and yeah they should have made another Alien 1 type movie.Ridley Scott once said in an interview that he wanted to do another Alien film but this time do an Alien prequel,were you could show how the aliens were discovered and how they got to LV-426.Or maybe elaborate on the Space Jockey crew and how they lost control of there ship.Or maybe elaborate more on the whole idea that they used the Aliens species for bio warfare,you know an epic Alien war movie.I think focusing on the Space-Jockey species would be great change of direction in a new way,and with today's technology they could pull it off.There's even a possibility to add humans and predators into the mix,or both ideas I talked about above,but slowly through more prequels.

Man.. why I can think this sh%# up and they can't boggles my mind.

I think the Alien franchise was pretty much killed by A:R. Though they could do a new main character instead of Ripley*Prepares for the bashing to begin*.

Personally, I'd like to see a movie where the Aliens reach Earth and start a war with and the Colonial Marines. If you see the A:R extended cut, there is a scene where Ripley 8 and crew actually land on Earth infront of a devastated Paris, so that pretty much gives them a starting point on how to make the movie I'm thinking about. Maybe they can get Cameron back, since he did so well with the CMs in ALIENS...

 

[p!tu]

 

[screamingmetal]

There's three new Video Features on the AVP Requiem props featuring Alic Gillis and Tom Woodruff!
https://www.sideshowtoy.com/cgi-bin/category.cgi?category=spooktacular07-video

 

[Bardoon]

I think the Alien franchise was pretty much killed by A:R. Though they could do a new main character instead of Ripley*Prepares for the bashing to begin*.

Personally, I'd like to see a movie where the Aliens reach Earth and start a war with and the Colonial Marines. If you see the A:R extended cut, there is a scene where Ripley 8 and crew actually land on Earth infront of a devastated Paris, so that pretty much gives them a starting point on how to make the movie I'm thinking about. Maybe they can get Cameron back, since he did so well with the CMs in ALIENS...

EVERYONE'S dream AvP movie is set in the future and is basically ALIENS VS. PREDATOR VS. COLONIAL MARINES...so I assure you that you are NOT the only one who wants to see that happen! The AvP franchise has followed that exact formula in the comics and the popular video games (AvP2 rocked!) and has succeeded...why Fox doesn't do it for the movies?I have no idea!

The Strauss Bros. (AvP:R directors) have said that if they get the opportunity to do a third AvP movie that they would like to have it set in the future AND in space.

Oh and I agree with you, the Alien franchise does not need Ripley nor does it always have to follow the "strong female lead" formula either.

Great photo of the PredAlien p!tu! Good find on that! I am really digging the design on it!It looks really creepy...much better than the Human-Alien Hybrid "NewBorn" design from Alien:Resurrection.

 

[Sachiel]

The Strauss Bros. (AvP:R directors) have said that if they get the opportunity to do a third AvP movie that they would like to have it set in the future AND in space.

While that sounds nice, I'm sure it'll just be dumb ass human fodder and more Alien vs Predator gore. Oh, and a human lead that you won't care for. And that's probably all these characters are going to get for now on.

 

[Bardoon]

While that sounds nice, I'm sure it'll just be dumb ass human fodder and more Alien vs Predator gore. Oh, and a human lead that you won't care for. And that's probably all these characters are going to get for now on.

True...the unfortunate downside of the Alien/Predator franchises is that Fox KNOWS that these are huge moneymakers for them. They can make bundles of money based on the novelty of the franchises alone. From the business aspect it's smart because they can make relatively cheap movies (such as AvP) and not have to worry about shelling out millions for a talented cast & crew (namely a director such as Scott or Cameron...especially nowadays) and they KNOW that fans, moviegoers, etc. will shell out the dough to see the movies. They can maximize their profits this way, before the movie came out I believe "Alien vs. Predator" was one of Fox's most profitable off-screen franchises.

AvP sucked...but it made boatloads of money and enough that Fox knew they had a hit and pushed for a sequel.

Its been said before by myself and others, but I am not trying to get my hopes up for AvP:R...however, the more I see...the more I like and it does look like it will be much better.