Aliens,Predator and Terminator Q&A (Anything!)

[A.L.I.E.N]

Double post? WTF!

 

[a-dev]

Well they did didn't they? The film was a lot more tongue in cheek and less serious in tone than the others and even felt like a cartoon at times. Trying to make it an easily accessible popcorn flick was a big no-no from the start seeing as the previous films werent that at all.

I concur with the above. I wonder were they knowingly altering the tone or was that an unhappy accident. Terrible film, doesn't feel like its set in the same universe as Alien, Aliens and Alien 3 at all.

 

[SilentSurfer]

Well they did didn't they? The film was a lot more tongue in cheek and less serious in tone than the others and even felt like a cartoon at times. Trying to make it an easily accessible popcorn flick was a big no-no from the start seeing as the previous films werent that at all.

Resurrection was written by Joss (Buffy the Vampire Doll House) Wheddon. I love Buffy and Dollhouse, and I think the guy is a genious with TV characters and story lines, but he just didn't work for Aliens. Wrong tone as you said. His style comes from being one of the writers for X-Men a while back. Aliens is supposed to be bigger than a comic book movie.

 

[snoop101]

So, let me get things straight.
In "Terminator Salvation 2", they should introduce the use of plasma rifles, modernize the HK and terminator designs, start hinting at time travel, and maybe hint at the T-1000?

One thing that concerns me is that Kyle never fought or shouldn't even know about them. Another is that this sounds like a huge leap in time between TS and TS2. Lots of places where they can mess things up even further.

Terminator Salvation is the altered timeline created by t2. Since the t-800 and John blew up cyberdyne,it postponed judgment day. so the kyle in salvation is different from kyle in t1. The events in salvation may not of necessarily happened in the original timeline.

 

[SilentSurfer]

Terminator Salvation is the altered timeline created by t2. Since the t-800 and John blew up cyberdyne,it postponed judgment day. so the kyle in salvation is different from kyle in t1. The events in salvation may not of necessarily happened in the original timeline.

You're totally right, which means that Kyle may not actually be sent back, but I'm sure they'll find some BS was to make sure it happens like creating a 'Marcus' style Kyle clone with genetically engineered semen so he can go back and knock up ol' Sarah with his John juice. That's McG's idea of a good story right there.

 

[nicky]

Terminator Salvation is the altered timeline created by t2. Since the t-800 and John blew up cyberdyne,it postponed judgment day. so the kyle in salvation is different from kyle in t1. The events in salvation may not of necessarily happened in the original timeline.

You know, I'm getting really pissed off and tired of hearing that same old excuse used to explain why everything is differernt. Why even bother including it in Terminator series if it's not even the same.

Here a question:
In T1 Arnold appears naked and the punks jeer at him. Arnold repeats back what the punks say to him, "Nice night for walk" and "Nothing clean right." What is he doing repeating what they say? Is he a parrot? And why didn't the other Terminators do this too when they first arrived?

 

[A.L.I.E.N]

You know, I'm getting really pissed off and tired of hearing that same old excuse used to explain why everything is differernt. Why even bother including it in Terminator series if it's not even the same.

Here a question:
In T1 Arnold appears naked and the punks jeer at him. Arnold repeats back what the punks say to him, "Nice night for walk" and "Nothing clean right." What is he doing repeating what they say? Is he a parrot? And why didn't the other Terminators do this too when they first arrived?

To infiltrate maybe he is interfacing with human talk of the 80's.

T-1000 and TX are more advanced, have knowledge like that.

T-800 in T2 and T-850 in T3 were human reprogrammed so probably taught that "slang".

helpful?

 

[nicky]

To infiltrate maybe he is interfacing with human talk of the 80's.

T-1000 and TX are more advanced, have knowledge like that.

T-800 in T2 and T-850 in T3 were human reprogrammed so probably taught that "slang".

So then how does the T1 T-800 know phrases such as "F YOU A-HOLE!"? he didnt learn it from anyone else in 1984.

 

[A.L.I.E.N]

So then how does the T1 T-800 know phrases such as "F YOU A-HOLE!"? he didnt learn it from anyone else in 1984.

remember he was in 1984 for a few days walking and driving round people of the time. Also he stayed in a ^^^^ty motel with not to many well spoken gentlemen if you catch my drift.

 

[Blackhole]

So then how does the T1 T-800 know phrases such as "F YOU A-HOLE!"? he didnt learn it from anyone else in 1984.

"Your clothes, give them to me...now"

"Hey, ^^^^^* you a**hole!!!"

There you go...

 

[A.L.I.E.N]

"Your clothes, give them to me...now"

"Hey, ^^^^^* you a**hole!!!"

There you go...

can't believe I forgot that!!!

 

[quiggle]

when was this, with the punks? I thought he said "eat this gum"

 

[A.L.I.E.N]

when was this, with the punks? I thought he said "eat this gum"

 

[SilentSurfer]

when was this, with the punks? I thought he said "eat this gum"

TV censorship rules!

You know, I'm getting really pissed off and tired of hearing that same old excuse used to explain why everything is differernt. Why even bother including it in Terminator series if it's not even the same.

It shouldn't be included IMO. Hollywood can't think outside their little box sometimes. Cameron closed the story, but because the producers wanted more money they pulled some lame crap out of their asses and made T3 and the logical follow up to it, TS. Cameron's work in T1 was legendary. In T2, he had too much money to throw at it and forgot why T1 worked. T3 and TS are the progression of not being able to go back and figure that out.

I want to see somebody Batman Begins this franchise after T1 and show us Cyberdyne changing the world of technology, making Skynet for Norad, developing the Terminator Endoskeleton (the first one being modelled after a guy that looks like Arnold), and see Skynet go online and launch nukes while everyone scrambles to deactivate it. That's my T2

Here a question:
In T1 Arnold appears naked and the punks jeer at him. Arnold repeats back what the punks say to him, "Nice night for walk" and "Nothing clean right." What is he doing repeating what they say? Is he a parrot? And why didn't the other Terminators do this too when they first arrived?

The first movie is the only one to make the Terminator feel like a machine. Why the T2 800 was a better communicator has already been suggested, but for me he felt too human in T2 (which was Cameron's boneheaded point). The problem is that I never felt like I was watching a machine that looked human. In T2 and T3 I just feel like I'm watching Arnold doing a bad impression of his role in the first movie. Not even with endo showing do I believe I'm seeing as much of a machine as when he first arrived in T1 fully skinned.

 

[Kaijuboy]

The first movie is the only one to make the Terminator feel like a machine. Why the T2 800 was a better communicator has already been suggested, but for me he felt too human in T2 (which was Cameron's boneheaded point). The problem is that I never felt like I was watching a machine that looked human. In T2 and T3 I just feel like I'm watching Arnold doing a bad impression of his role in the first movie. Not even with endo showing do I believe I'm seeing as much of a machine as when he first arrived in T1 fully skinned.

And this is why the Terminator in T1 is, and always will be, the BEST and most bad-ass Terminator... FACT..

 

[Dinosoar Daz]

I seem to remember reading a scene from Aliens in the novelisation where Ripley after re-entering the nest to rescue Newt encounters an impregnated Bruke, and hands him a grenade. Do I remember this correctly? Was this ever filmed? Does it exist as a deleted scene?

 

[Mikey2Bullets]

I seem to remember reading a scene from Aliens in the novelisation where Ripley after re-entering the nest to rescue Newt encounters an impregnated Bruke, and hands him a grenade. Do I remember this correctly? Was this ever filmed? Does it exist as a deleted scene?

not on any of the cuts i've seen. i think after using a grenade as a squeezy doll in the vents there wouldn't be much left to impregnate.

 

[Sabres21768]

I seem to remember reading a scene from Aliens in the novelisation where Ripley after re-entering the nest to rescue Newt encounters an impregnated Bruke, and hands him a grenade. Do I remember this correctly? Was this ever filmed? Does it exist as a deleted scene?

not on any of the cuts i've seen. i think after using a grenade as a squeezy doll in the vents there wouldn't be much left to impregnate.

M2B...you're thinking of Gorman in the vents with Vasquez.

And yes, the scene with the cocooned Burke and Ripley was filmed.
But, it never made it into any of the cuts.

Here's a pic of that scene...

 

[Mikey2Bullets]

M2B...you're thinking of Gorman in the vents with Vasquez.

And yes, the scene with the cocooned Burke and Ripley was filmed.
But, it never made it into any of the cuts.

Here's a pic of that scene...

wow, i am DUMB.

how the hell did i forget that?

 

[Dinosoar Daz]

And yes, the scene with the cocooned Burke and Ripley was filmed.
But, it never made it into any of the cuts.

Here's a pic of that scene...

Thanks Sabres. I'm now hoping one day that scene will make it to DVD/BLU-RAY.