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Two things:

I've asked in another thread, but I'll ask again because we weren't sure...

What is that thing that the Terminator wears around his left boot in the first film? Any pics would be very much appreciated...

Also, did anyone ever notice in the scene where the Terminator leaves to hunt down Kyle and Sarah AFTER the police station, but back at his apartment, in that one shot, he isn't wearing boots at all, more like a pair of sneakers...check if you don't believe me...

EDIT: Found a screencap, he should be wearing boots, but he isn't!

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it all does not make sense anyways about terminator. they never explain how john connor in the future exist in the first place. i think really i am confusing myself because salvation is not a sequel but a prequel to terminator series...
never mind i don't want to know because it really is straight confusing..
we know kyle reese is sent back in time to protect sarah connor.. But if john connor is in the future already ..before making this decision while fighting skynet. how does this happen.i hope someone see whati am getting at..
i know the time travel thing.
 
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it all does not make sense anyways about terminator. they never explain how john connor in the future exist in the first place. i think really i am confusing myself because salvation is not a sequel but a prequel to terminator series...
never mind i don't want to know because it really is straight confusing..
we know kyle reese is sent back in time to protect sarah connor.. But if john connor is in the future already ..before making this decision while fighting skynet. how does this happen.i hope someone see whati am getting at..
i know the time travel thing.

Perhaps John had a different father to start with? Perhaps the guy Sarah was gonna go out on a date with...

And when that date was cancelled, it was only AFTER Kyle and The Terminator are sent back in time...then Kyle becomes the father of John...
 
Because when we saw it on screen...we all thought.."AWW ^^^^! Here comes the pain!!"

It's for affect...that's all.

Agreed.

Two things:
What is that thing that the Terminator wears around his left boot in the first film? Any pics would be very much appreciated...

It's just a studded leather bracelet or two. Punker fashion.

Also, did anyone ever notice... he isn't wearing boots at all, more like a pair of sneakers...check if you don't believe me...

Very likely just a filming error. His feet probably weren't intended to be in that shot, and Arnold just had his sneakers on.

I've been on a movie set during filming a couple times, and let me tell you, if it's not in frame, they really don't care about it. You can even have several shots in the same scene and they may be separated by months of production. Sombody could walk up to a castle in Scottland, the next shot is in a sound stage in Hollywood that looks like the interior of the castle, and a close up of the actor's talking head could be in another location standing in front of small section of fake wall meant to look like stone. But edited all together they look like somebody walked up to the castle, stepped inside, and started to talk to somebody all in one continuous action. Every time a shot cuts away, it could have been filmed years later, and the audience never knows.

Watch an older movie with somebody smoking s cigarette. In one scene the cigarette will become shorter and longer repeatedly depending on what angle you are seeing because they don't use lots of cameras to shoot most scenes. They just use one, film a scene through, move the camera, and reshoot the scene until they have all the angles they want. Then they edit the best shots together to create the right effect and you have one continuous action with a magicly regenerating cigarette.

Long answer, short, the sneakers were in the shot accidentally. A lot of T1 was shot guerrilla style, which means they didn't have a studio, just a camera, some lighting, and they just got into locations and shot as fast as they could without permits and such. You get a lot of blooper shots like that. All things considered, T1 was very well done.
 
...they never explain how john connor in the future exist in the first place. ... never mind i don't want to know because it really is straight confusing..
we know kyle reese is sent back in time to protect sarah connor.. But if john connor is in the future already ..before making this decision while fighting skynet. how does this happen.i hope someone see whati am getting at..

This is the whole reason I don't like T2 because it changed the timeline. The whole "future is not set" thing goes against the core of T1.

Time is circular. If you leave the future to change the past, you just create the future by your action. If Skynet had not sent the Terminator to stop John from being born, John would not exist, and neither would Skynet. Skynet created itself, and it's nemesis by attempting to kill Sarah.

Cyberdyne would not have created Skynet without the chip found in the factory, and the Model 101 would never have been created if not for the inspiration given by the remians of the endo in the factory.

Sarah would have gone on to be a waitress for some time, marry some guy (maybe) and live a normal life without preparing for the war she would never know was coming, and if by some chance she had a son who happened to be named John, he would not be the boy raised to believe he is the savior of mankind and would likely just be killed in some camp if he even survived the war at all.

The future was created by Skynet's attempt to change the past. T2 fugged that all up, and now we have T3 and McG's TS.

To answer your question, there should have been no 'original' timeline before the events of T1 because time is a perfect circle in that instance. John IMO would not exist if not for Kyle. It's kind of a father becomes the son becomes the father situation. Kyle would not have been the hero he was if not for future John, and John would not be the savior of mankind without the hero Kyle was.
 
it's a loop in the flow of time that has no beginning or end.

looks like the same thing is gonna happen with lost.

Except that people like the Terminator films...:monkey3:monkey3:monkey3

Well...two of them...well...one of them...maybe...

If you look past the whole timeline thing, most of the Terminator films are quite entertaining...
 
I have always wondered, in AVP-R we see the ship in space crash to earth but when Wolf gets the SOS he sees the same footage. Where they too lazy to make some other point of view instead of using the same footage but in red? I wonder if they have invisible satellites in orbit. Also, I thought the Predator home world was so far away, Wolf got to earth pretty fast. How fast are their space ships, faster than light or are they able to make wormholes? I never read any Predator comic so I don't know if this was ever answered in them.
 
If you look past the whole timeline thing, most of the Terminator films are quite entertaining...

Agreed. For action movies they are all watchable to me, but for story, there is only one (until I write the circular timeline, anyway)

I have always wondered, in AVP-R we see the ship in space crash to earth but when Wolf gets the SOS he sees the same footage. Where they too lazy to make some other point of view instead of using the same footage but in red? I wonder if they have invisible satellites in orbit. Also, I thought the Predator home world was so far away, Wolf got to earth pretty fast. How fast are their space ships, faster than light or are they able to make wormholes? I never read any Predator comic so I don't know if this was ever answered in them.

Wormholes... I can live with that. There haven't been any materials to suggest that as far as I know, but that's fine in my book. As for the movie, I think all the things you suggested are just the writers and directors being lazy asses and trying to move the story along too fast. For example, the AVP ship was already at Jupiter when the Predalien attacked, yet it 'falls?' back to Earth as though Jupiter is somehow suspended over our planet. That was really stupid.

AS for the footage Wolf sees, I like your idea about invisible satellites, though I'm sure that's not what the filmmakers thought. They were, as you said, being lazy. The AVP movies didn't even try to place their stories in reality. Time meant nothing, like flipping the page in a comic book.
 
Hah! That reminds me of the court room scene in Star Trek IV where they watch precisely the same footage of the Enterprise's destruction that we the audience saw in Star Trek III! Ridiculous, as though there were cameras sitting there in space to capture it all from multiple angles!
 
For example, the AVP ship was already at Jupiter when the Predalien attacked, yet it 'falls?' back to Earth as though Jupiter is somehow suspended over our planet. That was really stupid.

In the extended UNRATED version of the dvd it shows a smaller ship being launched from the "mother ship" and speeding toward earth from Jupiter.
 
Oh yeah, that's right. Still though, it crashes from Jupiter to Earth. In Hollywoodland they always treat other planets like they are right next door.

The fact that the mother ship shoots out a smaller craft is even dumber. Is the PredAlien only aboard the smaller ship, and why do they shoot it at Earth instead of just setting it adrift so the Cleaner doesn't have to romp all over Colorado hunting down Aliens?

Oh, I keep forgetting, shi-tty script.
 
The fact that the mother ship shoots out a smaller craft is even dumber. Is the PredAlien only aboard the smaller ship, and why do they shoot it at Earth instead of just setting it adrift so the Cleaner doesn't have to romp all over Colorado hunting down Aliens?

thats a very good point and a massive flaw. Avp-r really is terrible. :lol
 
Ok this might be a weird question. I have always wondered does the Predator actually see through the lens of his mask or is that like a camera that looks like eyes but the picture is actually projected in their head like Geordi La Forge's VISOR on Star Trek.
 
Why do all the aliens look differently from movie to movie? Is it because copyright issues or each director uses creative license?

Luis

There are speculations,

A Directors have different views on how Aliens should look.

B It's also said Aliens pass on genetic information through the generations.
 
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