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Randysgut
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no movie tie ins, thank god, books based of movies suck IMO( but not always the other way around). the book im reading right now is called Turnabout.
A women visits the wilderness of alaska where her brother was killed by grizzlies( he was a nature nut), and she wants to see where it was he died. Shes partnered up with an older man named Sloane( ex marine, sniper specialist) while on route to the dead brothers location, a bear is found with its head missing( they both assume poachers). Then the actual poachers come into play, A man named ... crap forgot.. anyways hes a sleazy poacher who makes big dollars off selling grizzly testicles to wealthy chinese men ( more info on that in the book) this guy is a real hookers and blow kind of guy, doesnt give a ^^^^ about anybody. but when one of the poachers goes missing later found with a plasma blast to the chest. Both the Poacher and The Ranger are after each other, but really there is a way bigger threat here, and we all know what that is. PREDATORS!
A women visits the wilderness of alaska where her brother was killed by grizzlies( he was a nature nut), and she wants to see where it was he died. Shes partnered up with an older man named Sloane( ex marine, sniper specialist) while on route to the dead brothers location, a bear is found with its head missing( they both assume poachers). Then the actual poachers come into play, A man named ... crap forgot.. anyways hes a sleazy poacher who makes big dollars off selling grizzly testicles to wealthy chinese men ( more info on that in the book) this guy is a real hookers and blow kind of guy, doesnt give a ^^^^ about anybody. but when one of the poachers goes missing later found with a plasma blast to the chest. Both the Poacher and The Ranger are after each other, but really there is a way bigger threat here, and we all know what that is. PREDATORS!
boba_fett300
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In Alien and Aliens, when the alien and queen got shot out in space, can they breath or survive in space?
according to the old dark horse comics, yes.
but given that she was jettisoned in deep space, physics dictates given her momentum and drift in one direction would all but guarantee she'd drift forever, freeze, or starve. if they even eat. i think the old comics broached that too.
EndIessRAlN
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And not to mention that if she does approach a planet, she would be pulled so hard from the gravitational pull, she would probably burn up during the reenter. Worse case would be for her to just bump into another ship where she'll kill the inhabitants and create a new colony that floats around aimlessly in space.
*clears throat, takes deep breath, and types*
There is nothing to breathe in space, so that's out, despite the fact that she was screaming, even though we shouldn't have been able to hear her scream in space, right--Alien 1 poster rule (where were you on that one, Mr. Cameron). The Queen clearly breathes though, because Aliens made it very clear during her egg chamber scene. Her intense breathing was part of her character (knida like Darth Vader). Based on that, she should have suffocated eventually, but the Alien in the first movie seemed to do just fine outside the Narcissus shuttle. Inconsistancies in creature characteristics run rampant throughout the Aliens saga, so anything goes.
If breathing isn't an issue, lets discuss survival in space. The eggs apparently last indefinitely as they seemed to have done in the Derelict on LV 426, and, if you accept AVP as canon of a sort, a Queen can be frozen for at least 100 years (probably indefinitely as well) and be thawd back to immediate egg-laying life. Ash, in Alien, said that even the facehugger shed its cells and replaced them with polarized silicon to give it prolonged resistance to adverse environmental conditons. Aliens above all else seem able to adapt to anything, so it would seem a Queen may survive in space by perhaps going into a kind of hybernation.
Whether or not she runs into anything on her drift through space is extremely unlikely, but not impossible if you want to come up with ways for her to 'ride again'.
Addressing the book you are reading, Randysgut, why do the books, comics, and AVP movie keep putting Preds in the f'ing snow? Sure it's visually interesting, and you can come up with cool stories for them there, but Predator 1 and 2 made very deliberate mention of how hot it was. Multiple characters all the way through P2 comment on how hot it is. Even the news reporter says LA is experiencing record heat. In P1, Blaine and Mac talk about how hot it is, and Anna, the female captive, while talking about the 'demon that makes trophies of man', says, ..."We began finding our men sometimes without their skin... Only in the hottest years this happens, and this year it grows hot."
Lets put two and two together, shall we. Predators only come when its very hot (until the comics missed that
and did whatever the hell they wanted with the Preds, and then the book(s), and then Paul A-holeson
). That suggests that Predators come from a planet way hotter than ours if they can only stand to come here when it's almost too hot for us. I can't stand when people take a property, and pay no attention to the details.
Sorry, Randysgut, enjoy your book
Lets put two and two together, shall we. Predators only come when its very hot (until the comics missed that
and did whatever the hell they wanted with the Preds, and then the book(s), and then Paul A-holeson). That suggests that Predators come from a planet way hotter than ours if they can only stand to come here when it's almost too hot for us. I can't stand when people take a property, and pay no attention to the details.Sorry, Randysgut, enjoy your book
EndIessRAlN
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And not to mention that if she does approach a planet, she would be pulled so hard from the gravitational pull, she would probably burn up during the reenter. Worse case would be for her to just bump into another ship where she'll kill the inhabitants and create a new colony that floats around aimlessly in space.
Or she floats into the windscreen of the space craft and gets crushed, end Alien 5!
see M.I.B beginning for reference
In Alien: Resurrection, they can stay underwater indefinitely so one would assume they don't need to breathe...
You secure that **** Nicky!
Well if they are designed to be the perfect stowe aways/ bio weapon they should be able to cope with no air or survive in the vacuum of space.
Aliens as bio-weapons is definitely what Wayland-Yutani wants them for, but there is no movie based evidence to suggest that they are in fact engineered creatures meant for that purpose. I'm not saying I have a problem with that added lore from the comics, but it's interesting that it seems to be a fact though it was never suggested in the movies.
If anything were suggested about the origin of Aliens, it's that Preds engineered them for the perfect, adaptive prey.
Anybody have any other plausible origin stories for xenomorphs? I wonder what the Ridley reboot will invent for us.
If anything were suggested about the origin of Aliens, it's that Preds engineered them for the perfect, adaptive prey.
Anybody have any other plausible origin stories for xenomorphs? I wonder what the Ridley reboot will invent for us.
Faken
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The aliens are bio-mechanical creatures, created by the race that crashed into LV-426. The same race created the space jockey, the bio-mechanical giant that operated the ship and is seen in Aliens.
So the Space Jockey isn't one of the crew of that derelict ship? What is your reasoning or source for that assumption? If you say comics, I'm coming over there and I'm going to slap you.
BTW, what's your address just in case...
Any and all comics (aside from movie adaptations perhaps) came way after Alien and have no right to suggest anything as a fact that was not shown in either movie with the derelict ship in it.
PS. the Jockey was not seen in Aliens. In fact, none of the interior of the ship was.
BTW, what's your address just in case...
Any and all comics (aside from movie adaptations perhaps) came way after Alien and have no right to suggest anything as a fact that was not shown in either movie with the derelict ship in it.
PS. the Jockey was not seen in Aliens. In fact, none of the interior of the ship was.
Faken
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Sorry meant Alien, not aliens...
And no, not from the comics.. I read it from original material someone had posted on an old forum years and years ago, I don't even remember any more, possibly from one of the novels or something. I've never read the comics, so no idea what those say. But I definitely remember reading about this species of aliens that basically designed bio-mechanical creatures to serve them, fight their wars etc... the aliens we see in the movies were designed to exterminate their enemies and the space jockey was one of their creations to fly the vessel, it's actually anchored right in to the ship. I think they were called Gigerians or something like that, obviously after Giger. I used to read tons of material on it, I just can't remember where it's all from, sorry
In fact, I have a bust that a guy sculpted AGES ago based on those stories... it's one of those gigerian aliens being attacked by a facehugger.
Maybe Sabres or another Alien expert can chime in, I'm more Predator guy than Aliens, so my memory is a bit hazy on that old stuff.
PS. Wouldn't recommend trying to slap me... that would probably end badly for ya
LOL!EDIT - Just to clarify, when I was first in to Aliens 20 years ago up to now, I have read a retarded amount of material on this stuff... from scripts, screenplays, threads like this and fan-written stories. For whatever reason this has always been part of my knowledge of the alien species, but where it comes from I don't know. Wish I could just link you to some wiki or something, but the forums and material this is from have long since closed up shop lol!
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The whole Gigerian thing still sounds like some fan stuff that came after the movie. I would suspect that there wasn't an intense amount of backstory conceived of before that screenplay was written. I'm not saying I can't accept it, it's actually kinda cool except the name Gigerian; I'm just sceptical when it comes to off-screen facts.
But hey, that's what this thread is all about. Bringing obscure info to the fans. I'm digging it.
But hey, that's what this thread is all about. Bringing obscure info to the fans. I'm digging it.
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Your example is just as valid as someone saying "the comics".
AVP is NOT CANNON in the alien saga.
#1 Mr Weyland was present in Alien 3, so he could not have been in AVP.
#2 The Alien's gestation period is waaaaaaay excelerated in AVP.
#3 Monster T-Rex Queen?
#4 Your words " [The AVP movie] came way after Alien and have no right to suggest anything as a fact that was not shown in either movie with the derelict ship in it.
#5 ALIENS never appeared on earth before. That was the entire purpose of all 4 alien movies. (which all came before AVP)
PS. If you go watch the uncut version of ALIENS...... you'll see, there's footage (exterior and a bit of the interior) of the derelict ship.
"The same Derelict spacecraft, now lava damaged, as encountered by the Jorden family - 2179" (time.absoluteavp.com/alientech.html)
The hole ALIEN/Predator crossover is a joke.
If I was to entertain the idea, it would have to go something like the following:
There was a war between the Space Jockeys and the Predators, where the Jockey race was in a losing battle.
They decided to beat the Predators at their own game, so they engineered the Xenos to whipe out the Preds. from within. Only... that backfired, and now Preds hunt aliens for sport by using they "perfect weaponry" to hunt "the perfect organism".
So, please don't ever mention that "Predators engineered aliens to hunt" idea again.
Both Alien movies came before Predator (1st one almost 10 years), so that already makes the idea a contradiction.
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That's why I was careful to say, "if you accept AVP..."
I surely don't consider it canon. To me it's like a live action cartoon based on the Predator and Alien characters.
PS back: If by 'interior' you mean one shot of just inside the crack they entered through, then yeah. No egg storage. No Jockey. Of course I have the Special Edition.
I surely don't consider it canon. To me it's like a live action cartoon based on the Predator and Alien characters.
PS back: If by 'interior' you mean one shot of just inside the crack they entered through, then yeah. No egg storage. No Jockey. Of course I have the Special Edition.
EndIessRAlN
Super Freak
I love that idea and would love to see them make a movie out of that. The Jockeys are way too ignored and there's so much potential to explore there. A Predator/Space Jockey/Alien war would be a sight for sore eyes.
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