Aliens,Predator and Terminator Q&A (Anything!)

[Blu Falcon]

Sections from the script. I think they gave some of Hudson and Wiezerbowski's lines to Frost.





I do remember him saying "rifles slung" so I would assume Gorman is referring to any type of rifle fire.

Just as troubling of course is that every trooper had a pistol IIRC.

I think Cameron had to work hard to disarm the Marines. Even if Apone was told to collect magazines

1) Would he really do it? Despite what movies might say, in a combat scenario, many people will ignore what they consider a suicidal order. There's a good chance, under those circumstances, that Apone would have withdrew his squad at that point to reassess the situation. Young lieutenants typically give lots of room for their veteran sergeants to also have a say in the decision making process in combat situations.

2) It's not like each soldier would only have one magazine. In real life, every soldier would have carried several spare magazines and once Dietrich and Frost got hit, everyone would have reloaded with their spare mags and continued the fight. Like you said, they didn't know that the core might rupture.

3) Every M41A had the over/under 20mm grenade launcher. Every surviving soldier would have, in desperation, used those grenades.

4) Apone, being a seasoned combat veteran, probably wouldn't have waited to get his troops to retreat. Then again most were dead by the time he asked for orders.

In real life, I believe Gorman, Apone and Hicks would have discussed the tactical situation extensively before they went into that area. Then if they did, they wouldn't have sent the entire combat force. Then again, they wouldn't have left the Sulaco completely unmanned. And even if they went in despite all that, everyone would have had a flamethrower. Grenade launchers can fire a variety of rounds, it's part of their versatility. Even if 20mm explosive grenades were not going to be used, they probably had a buckshot variant available.

Everything about that situation rides the line of implausible. Then again it's a movie and the movie wouldn't have had the conflict it did without that scenario playing out.

Gekko

You seem well versed on the ways of the military.

Considering these are Marines, I would say that the way the scenario played out in the film is very plausible. If these were Army guys, then yes, I'd wholeheartedly agree with your assessment. If they had been Army Colonial Rangers, the plan would have been war-gamed to death, well rehearsed, and had contingency plan after contingency plan to support the "what if" scenarios. The Army spends a lot of time After Action Reviewing everything, or Monday morning quarterbacking after every operation training or otherwise, not to mention the countless control measures implemented to mitigate any unnecessary risk. They take a more precautionary approach to things unlike most Marines I've met or worked with. Not talking bad about the Corp here, but traditionally Marines have been more aggressive about assaulting their objectives without completely thinking things through, as evidence by the you Lieutenant's reluctance to take any advice from Ripley.

 

[MarrowMan]

If Skynet had limited files on Sarah Connor, why then did it know of her death and subsequent scattering of her ashes?(T3) Seems odd Skynet would know that, but not anything else.

 

[A.L.I.E.N]

If Skynet had limited files on Sarah Connor, why then did it know of her death and subsequent scattering of her ashes?(T3) Seems odd Skynet would know that, but not anything else.

John told Katie the story and she told the Arnold for some reason

 

[SilentSurfer]

True. If part of the 850's mission was to raid the morgue for weapons, the conversation about Sarah's death would have to be anticipated (or remembered) by Kate. This information would have come out after Skynet sent the 800 to '84 anyway. It would even be after the 850 had already killed John in the future.

 

[A.L.I.E.N]

AVP:R Question. To help uncomplicate my question, Pred Alien will be from hive A and the Huggers from the pred ship will be from hive B.

Why did the facehugger born Aliens in AVP:R follow orders from The Pred-Alien? If he was from a different Aliens, would they not have fought him?
Hive A is the AVP hive.
Hive B is the Facehuggers from Pred ship.

Assuming Aliens like ants, are territorial would they not rebel against the pred-alien? Or is it because he is like a Queen and controls them, giving guidance.

 

[SilentSurfer]

AVP:R Question. To help uncomplicate my question, Pred Alien will be from hive A and the Huggers from the pred ship will be from hive B.

Why did the facehugger born Aliens in AVP:R follow orders from The Pred-Alien? If he was from a different Aliens, would they not have fought him?
Hive A is the AVP hive.
Hive B is the Facehuggers from Pred ship.

Assuming Aliens like ants, are territorial would they not rebel against the pred-alien? Or is it because he is like a Queen and controls them, giving guidance.

I've always thought the PredAlien is supposed to be a she. It also appears to be somewhat of a Queen being that it has the ability to create embyos, although not by way of eggs and facehuggers (perhaps a mutation not unlike the Newborn of A4). Aliens, like bees, have a queen and a hive, but we can't pressume anymore of their similarities and behavior than that since Aliens are not from Earth, and they have a genetically inherited memory, quick adaptive learning ability, and seem to be great problem solvers.

Aliens are clearly submissive to the Queen as seen in Aliens, and they also seem to work as a unit. This may explain why they would be submissive to the PredAlien.

That said, I thought it was dumb that the PredAlien went around beating up the other Aliens when she was intending to create more of them herself. If your sole purpose it procreate your own kind, why would you go around hurting your kind? It was clearly to show her dominance, but it just came off dumb.

I didn't like the PredAlien concept at all as protrayed in the movie. I just wanted to see a hybrid Predator with Alien. I really didn't need the whole vomiting chestbursters into pregnant woman to reproduce thing. Hell, I didn't even like the PredAlien having dreads. And the body design was just a beast too far removed from the biomechanical exoskeletal zenomorph I love to see.

 

[A.L.I.E.N]

I've always thought the PredAlien is supposed to be a she. It also appears to be somewhat of a Queen being that it has the ability to create embyos, although not by way of eggs and facehuggers (perhaps a mutation not unlike the Newborn of A4). Aliens, like bees, have a queen and a hive, but we can't pressume anymore of their similarities and behavior than that since Aliens are not from Earth, and they have a genetically inherited memory, quick adaptive learning ability, and seem to be great problem solvers.

Aliens are clearly submissive to the Queen as seen in Aliens, and they also seem to work as a unit. This may explain why they would be submissive to the PredAlien.

That said, I thought it was dumb that the PredAlien went around beating up the other Aliens when she was intending to create more of them herself. If your sole purpose it procreate your own kind, why would you go around hurting your kind? It was clearly to show her dominance, but it just came off dumb.

Ok, thanks dude. Have not seen AVP-R in ages! How did the Pred-Alien hurt the other Alien?

 

[SilentSurfer]

Ok, thanks dude. Have not seen AVP-R in ages! How did the Pred-Alien hurt the other Alien?

She was always smacking them around, walking up and knocking them out of the way as they stalked their prey.

 

[A.L.I.E.N]

She was always smacking them around, walking up and knocking them out of the way as they stalked their prey.

Aliens about to jump a massive dude with a M16, last only threat! Pred-Alien decides to make a jack-ass video and pushes the alien outta a tree! Owned

 

[Mike the Wolf]

I know this is off the subject but does it seem that it is forbidden to see Batman's eye black make up when is mask is off. Like in Batman Returns at the end when he rips his mask off to Catwoman his eye black is on then all of sudden disappears. In The Dark Knight when he is in Hong Kong on top of the building with his mask off no eye black then when the mask goes on boom it's there.

 

[A.L.I.E.N]

I know this is off the subject but does it seem that it is forbidden to see Batman's eye black make up when is mask is off. Like in Batman Returns at the end when he rips his mask off to Catwoman his eye black is on then all of sudden disappears. In The Dark Knight when he is in Hong Kong on top of the building with his mask off no eye black then when the mask goes on boom it's there.

A question thread and not a "?" in sight! But the black eye make up, im clueless! Im a expert of Terminator and Aliens, with a fair knowledge on Preds Batmans not my thing.

If I had to say, just a general error on the make up artists behalf

 

[a-dev]

I know this is off the subject but does it seem that it is forbidden to see Batman's eye black make up when is mask is off. Like in Batman Returns at the end when he rips his mask off to Catwoman his eye black is on then all of sudden disappears. In The Dark Knight when he is in Hong Kong on top of the building with his mask off no eye black then when the mask goes on boom it's there.

I've noticed this before too. Its just one of those things we're not supposed to think about.

 

[SilentSurfer]

I know this is off the subject but does it seem that it is forbidden to see Batman's eye black make up when is mask is off. Like in Batman Returns at the end when he rips his mask off to Catwoman his eye black is on then all of sudden disappears. In The Dark Knight when he is in Hong Kong on top of the building with his mask off no eye black then when the mask goes on boom it's there.

I'll allow this question here just because Batman has done crossovers with Preds and Aliens before, so he can be sort of included in that universe.

Like a-dev said, we're not supposed to think about that. It was surely a conscious choice not to have him looking like a racoon with the mask off, but it does create some inconsistancies with people like us that pay strict attention to things we love to watch regularly.

I for one noticed that the first second he pulled the mask off. That always bugged me cause my mind is expecting the makeup to still be there.

 

[a-dev]

Imagine if the "suiting up" scenes had a bit where Batman goes over to a mirror and starts applying his eye makeup. I'm surprised I haven't seen any spoofs on that actually.

 

[SilentSurfer]

That would be funny to see him apply a base, then start with what looks like some Twilight-gay eye shadow and liner, then he puts on the mask and looks like Batman should.

 

[A.L.I.E.N]

Why is the Grid Dominant? Is it in the DNA? The Queen knows she is trapped. Releases a special egg?

 

[Bezzerkerr]

Why is the Grid Dominant? Is it in the DNA? The Queen knows she is trapped. Releases a special egg?

correct me if im wrong, Grid received his name because it had a "Grid" like patter burned into his head when the Predator shot the Net/capture weapon at him

It tightens after it initially captures and the tightening formed a "Grid" pattern on the Aliens head.

Just so happened to be the same Alien that took out 2 Predators.

 

[A.L.I.E.N]

correct me if im wrong, Grid received his name because it had a "Grid" like patter burned into his head when the Predator shot the Net/capture weapon at him

It tightens after it initially captures and the tightening formed a "Grid" pattern on the Aliens head.

Just so happened to be the same Alien that took out 2 Predators.

I know that it was just conicedence. But why was he stronger?

 

[Bezzerkerr]

I know that it was just conicedence. But why was he stronger?

Paul WS Anderson is a fool, he gets great projects, continually fumbles them.

 

[FACEBOX]

I know that it was just conicedence. But why was he stronger?

Think "logically".
Killing Chopper was a lucky shot. Killing Celtic also had luck involved because the netting broke just in time. After battling Celtic for as long as it did, it was the most experienced Warrior amongst the rest of the aliens and knew not to rush into fighting Predators.