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The Preds seem to be the superior race here. But I have a soft spot for the Xeno's! Their ability to have acid blood, tails, wall scaling, numbers beyond the enemy and quick making of those numbers! A L () E N S FTW!
 
My confusion continues. Just watching SCC again and according to the episode with Dr. Silberman the events of T2 took place in the summer of 1997, the year of judgement day. That would make sense given the title of the film I guess but - the info in the police car computer that the T-1000 calls up has John Connor at 10 years old. As we know John connor was conceived in 1984 and therefore born sometime in '85. So if T2 says hes 10 it should only be 1995. However I'd have to double check T2 for exactly what that computer text said...maybe it said "approx.10 years old".

Then of course you have T3 which states explicitly that JC was 13 during the events of T2. T:TSCC may have ignored the events of that film but it does seem to agree about the year T2 is set.
 
I don't remember T3 mentioning John having been 13, but Sarah's voice over at the beginning of T2 clearly states that he is 10 when the second Terminator (1000) is sent after him.

TSCC is not canon, and cannot be given all the crap they ignored (like this info) and all the crap they added.

If John is 10, then T2 is late '94-early '95. BTW, adev, 84 + 10 = 94. We don't know that he was born in '85. The T1 events may have been early in the year.

In T2, doesn't Arnold mention that Judgment Day will happen 'three years from now', making T2 sometime in '94? I'm not 100% on that.
 
I don't remember T3 mentioning John having been 13, but Sarah's voice over at the beginning of T2 clearly states that he is 10 when the second Terminator (1000) is sent after him......In T2, doesn't Arnold mention that Judgment Day will happen 'three years from now', making T2 sometime in '94? I'm not 100% on that

We've got entirely different memories here. I don't think Sarahs T2 voiceover mentions johns age at any point in the film - she says 'the computer that controlled the machines, Skynet, sent 2 Terminators back through time - their mission to destroy the leader of the human resistance, John Connor, my son. The first was programmed to strike at me in the year 1984. It failed. The second was set to strike at John himself when he was still a child. As before the resistance was able to send a lone warrior, a protector for John. It was just a question of which one of them would reach him first". The 'still a child' bit suggests the 10 moreso than 13 to me. Conversely the ''able to ride a motorcycle and hack computers" suggests 13 moreso than 10!

Not sure about the Arnie quote though. Maybe he says '3 years from now', not sure about that just now either.

TSCC is not canon, and cannot be given all the crap they ignored (like this info) and all the crap they added.

In my personal view of the terminator universe T:TSCC is more canon than the latter 2 films. I understand this may not objectively be the case. I decide based on quality of entertainment and how closely the tone and treatment of characters matches the original vision - to me thats TSCC, not T4 and certainly not that parody T3.


If John is 10, then T2 is late '94-early '95. BTW, adev, 84 + 10 = 94. We don't know that he was born in '85. The T1 events may have been early in the year.

They could or they could be later in the year, for some reason I've always assumed later in which case John would be born in 85, hence my 85 + 10 = 95
 
Nice job on the Sarah quote. That is the one I was thinking of, but you are right, she doesn't say '10'. Wonder where I got that from then. You thinking T2 was in '95 still makes him 10, so where does that come from, especially when the movie actually came out n '91, which would make him 6 or 7.

Now I need to watch the part where Arnold talks about Judgment Day, unless you want to beat me to it.

UPDATE: Just found this which suggests John is 10, and T2 takes place in '95.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Connor
 
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Actually T2 was summer of 91, John was born in 84, and the movie takes place in 94. How John is 13 is beyond me...T2 is loaded with continuity errors though.

Review my revisions in previous post. You're right on '91, but then why does Wiki have T2 in '95.

IMDB has it in 1995 as well
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0103064/plotsummary

Guess that settles that. I was wrong. a-dev was right. Nice job a-dev. But TSCC is totally wrong.
 
Guess that settles that. I was wrong. a-dev was right. Nice job a-dev. But TSCC is totally wrong.

I could have been wrong as far as I knew before looking at Wiki there. I was just guessing that T1 was set later in the year of 84 and based my assumption of John born in 85 from that. But thanks.

Also that T2 Sarah narration quote was entirely from memory! I've watched the opening war scene rather a lot of times.

However it seems that both T3 and TSCC got it wrong. John Connor was indeed only 10 in T2 and not 13 ("They tried to kill me before I was born. When I was 13 they tried again" - the line in T3) as they indicate. Thus T2 was set in 1995 not 1997.
 
He says 'Hyperdyne' but it is still intended as an in-joke...

For me, the Alien, Predator and Terminator franchises are all one universe...I like it better that way...



So let me get this straight. Preds have been hunting humans and duking it out with xenos for centuries pre-judgement day. Then at some point Terminators start jumping back in time to wreak havoc on the poor Connors family. Then Judgment Day. Somehow the human resistance manages to finally defeat the machines and re-build civilization on Earth. At some point in the future we decide that Earth just ain't what it used to be so we begin colonizing other worlds where we come into more contact with Aliens and Preds. Is this the universe you speak of in a nutshell? Not fact checking you, just want to be sure I understand what you're saying. :)

Back in the early to mid 90s I really got into collecting Dark Horse Alien, Predator, and Alien vs. Predator comics and knew the history between the two well enough I suppose. I haven't been reading this stuff for years due to some continuity issues and just flat out lack of interest in collecting comics, but I'm still a fan of the films.

One question that has been eating away at me is about Sarah Connor, an obvious thorn-in-the-side for Skynet considering she keeps kicking Terminator @$$. So why didn't Skynet take the precautionary route and take out Sarah Connor when she was just a snot-nosed kid, or wack her parents before she was even born? :google

Great thread! Glad I came across it.
 
Ok,

Dutch and Dillon are old pals who used to be Army together. Dillon left and became a sort of office worker. Dutch got his own team. Now Dutch's team are a rescue squad. Dillon tricks Dutch into killing the terrorists at the camp by saying they are holding Dutch's friend "Hopper" prisoner. Dutch believes the story and kill all the terrorists only to find out Dillon lied about the prisoners being held there. Dutch is pissed because his team are not assassins their trained rescue squad. Russian military advisers = Cold war feud ect.

"office worker"? :lol I think you mean CIA field operative. ;)

Not a bad synopsis, and I hope you don't mind me elaborating a bit. :) The original mission was to locate and gather intel on the rebels, and confirm or deny Soviet involvement, who were suspected of providing weapons and operational advisory assistance. The original recon team was compromised, thus Hopper's team was sent in to recover the operatives, who of course met their demise at the hands of the Predator. Dutch's team was sent in as a back-up when they lost coms with Hopper's team. Dillon knew Dutch would never agree to an overt assault on an enemy objective, so he made up a story to deceive him into accepting the mission, not disclosing the fact that Hopper's team was sent in first and initially denying he knew anything about it. When Dutch found out that he and his team had been used like a cheap whore, the beef between him a Dillon began to sizzle. All in all, Dillon wasn't completely a bad guy. In his mind, he was putting his mission above all else, to include friendship. Once he realized that he compromised the trust of his good friend, he sort of redeemed himself before he died by going after Mac. RIP, Dillon. :monkey2
 
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One question that has been eating away at me is about Sarah Connor, an obvious thorn-in-the-side for Skynet considering she keeps kicking Terminator @$$. So why didn't Skynet take the precautionary route and take out Sarah Connor when she was just a snot-nosed kid, or wack her parents before she was even born? :google

Great thread! Glad I came across it.

Well for some reason Skynet had a limited knowledge of the Connor family history and could only trace Sarah Connor to LA in 1984. It didn't even know what she looked like. Thats all the film says.
 
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