ALL THINGS TRANSFORMERS!!!!

[karamazov80]

it's also worth noting that there is no deception when it comes to thrid party and KO transfortmers. they are generaly labeld and sold as such, unlike with 1/6th product where there is generaly a level of deception going on.

Are you talking about KO Hot Toys figures (Wolverine being the primary one)? Because nearly every bootleg 1/6 scale figure/custom I'm aware of goes by an unofficial name, and is well understood to be unlicensed. The ones actually parading as official products are few and far between as I see it. I also haven't seen 3rd party TF's putting "Bootleg Product" on the box.

 

[franpincho]

transformers are a weird beast when it comes to unofficial product.

LEGALY, it's worth noting that hasbro and takara only hold design pattons, and copywrite protections on names, but do not have "likeness rights"

This opens the pandoras box of allowing other companies to make an original product that LOOKS and is OBVIOUSLY designed to be a take on Optimus prime, but so long as they call him " RED TRUCK COMMANDER" or something similarly stupid, they're in the clear. generaly these companies try to fill voids and make characters the official makers are skipping. Combiners/Gesaults are the big thing right now.

Full on knock-offs are a different matter. and there are ALOT of them, especialy of hard to find figures, and convention exclusives. MANY of these knock offs are of comparable quality to official product, so it's "good enough" if someoen wants one for a more affordable price.

it's also worth noting that there is no deception when it comes to thrid party and KO transfortmers. they are generaly labeld and sold as such, unlike with 1/6th product where there is generaly a level of deception going on.

Lol at "red truck commander".


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[lerath666]

Are you talking about KO Hot Toys figures (Wolverine being the primary one)? Because nearly every bootleg 1/6 scale figure/custom I'm aware of goes by an unofficial name, and is well understood to be unlicensed. The ones actually parading as official products are few and far between as I see it. I also haven't seen 3rd party TF's putting "Bootleg Product" on the box.

I guesss I'm more talking about recasts than I am figures like wolverine, though there was that point a couple of years ago when those factory seconds, or Bootlegs started popping up all over ebay, being sold as the real deal.

ALSO, there is a DISTINCT DIFFERENCE between a Knockoff/bootleg, and an unliscensed 3rd party product.

Knockoff/bootleg is a copy of an official piece. either made the same size, or sometimes enlargerred or shrunk ( Igear mini masterpiece prime)

a 3rd party product is something that is completely original, but based on an existing work.

also, Knock off transformers are gneraly listed as "KO Version" in the sellers listing. whither it's on ebay, in a forum post, or on a site that sells them.

 

[thecorsair]

Molds are apparently incredibly expensive. I would assume small changes like that wouldn't require an entire new mold - probably just a much smaller one for the part that needed to be changed, or some kind of alteration technique...

Mold costs can run into hundreds of thousands of dollars particularly on a Masterpiece level Transformer.

In the case of Grimlock's teeth I agree that there was perhaps a new mold for that part, but not the entire figure.

 

[Unclechopchop]

A little off subject but....Anybody have that old palisades ravage mini statue?? Or the sdcc ravage? Hit me up if you got em!

 

[Niltusk]

I guesss I'm more talking about recasts than I am figures like wolverine, though there was that point a couple of years ago when those factory seconds, or Bootlegs started popping up all over ebay, being sold as the real deal.

ALSO, there is a DISTINCT DIFFERENCE between a Knockoff/bootleg, and an unliscensed 3rd party product.

Knockoff/bootleg is a copy of an official piece. either made the same size, or sometimes enlargerred or shrunk ( Igear mini masterpiece prime)

a 3rd party product is something that is completely original, but based on an existing work.

also, Knock off transformers are gneraly listed as "KO Version" in the sellers listing. whither it's on ebay, in a forum post, or on a site that sells them.

Is there a dependable site thats sells them? I would love to buy alt mode dummies for all my MPs that I could, but I'm definitely not trusting random ****s on the bay anymore.

 

[Niltusk]

Has it ever been proven beyond a shadow of a doubt that the KO's aren't coming from Hasbro/Takara dies?

When the PT cruiser shared transmissions with the Neon, but just tighter dimensional tolerances, we didn't automatically return bad transmissions to melt like would be standard protocol in the past, we instead shipped them to the lines running Neon trannies and if they passed tolerance there, they got the junk, otherwise it went back to melt. I've often wondered if theres not a sort of similar situation going on with these KOs?

 

[soundwave]

Woo Hoo.
Had my Email from Anime Export that my G2 Sideswipe has arrived in stock.

Just waiting for my shipping cost to come through then pay up & he'll be on his way

Neil

 

[thecorsair]

Woo Hoo.
Had my Email from Anime Export that my G2 Sideswipe has arrived in stock.

Just waiting for my shipping cost to come through then pay up & he'll be on his way

Neil

Congrats!

That means Kapow should be getting theirs soon

 

[soundwave]

Congrats!

That means Kapow should be getting theirs soon

Fingers crossed

Just had the shipping request Email & paid for fast shipping again (worked out at £12.32) so should be sent tomorrow & here sometime next week!!

Can't wait.

Now if they would just hurry up & release Wheeljack

Neil

 

[thecorsair]

Fingers crossed

Just had the shipping request Email & paid for fast shipping again (worked out at £12.32) so should be sent tomorrow & here sometime next week!!

Can't wait.

Now if they would just hurry up & release Wheeljack

Neil

Are you going to put any of the stickers on Sideswipe?

I might put the G2 Autobot logo on the one I keep in robot mode but I want a clean alt mode.

Takara can take their time with Wheeljack....I don't want 'em to rush it and skip the QC process

 

[soundwave]

Are you going to put any of the stickers on Sideswipe?

I might put the G2 Autobot logo on the one I keep in robot mode but I want a clean alt mode.

Takara can take their time with Wheeljack....I don't want 'em to rush it and skip the QC process

Not too sure what I'll do with him yet tbh.
I might just leave him clean but then when I start seeing in hand pics with the stickers on I will probably change my mind lol

Still need to find me an official Red Alert as the lack of him in my collection is driving me nuts!!!!!!!!! lol

Neil

 

[lerath666]

Is there a dependable site thats sells them? I would love to buy alt mode dummies for all my MPs that I could, but I'm definitely not trusting random ****s on the bay anymore.

there are a few, most of them run by people who post over on TFW2005. there is a ko transformers thread in the 3rd party section that has some of that info.

 

[Silent Bob]

Grimlocks reaction to seeing his design in the new Bay film




Bob

 

[karamazov80]

He took it better than I expected.

 

[thecorsair]

Maybe that's why the latest reissue of MP Grimlock looks that color.

It's like he saw his Bayformers design and went grey overnight.

Kapow have said they're getting G2 Sideswipe next week!

 

[MegaPrime33]

New in hands pictures of MP 12G

https://www.tfw2005.com/boards/transformers-news-rumors/935706-mp-12g-g2-sideswipe-140.html

 

[Niltusk]

there are a few, most of them run by people who post over on TFW2005. there is a ko transformers thread in the 3rd party section that has some of that info.

Thanks man, I'll check that out. I'd like to play catch up on the cheap, but I think from now on, I'm just gonna double dip everything.

 

[lerath666]

maketoys trashtalk and cogwheelare up at BBTS

 

[franpincho]

Got myself two year of the horse Optimus at toys r us. Idk, I'm pretty underwhelmed. At $129.99
They seem like a good deal compared to the takara one, but this new paint is really not all that good.

Might just return them later today.


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